Adeptus Mechanicus for 40k new pics p162

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**migooo**

Verviedi wrote:
Naftka wrote:
There has been a lot of speculation over the Cult Mechanicus forces, and of course lots of questions. Everything from are their transports, to are there any troop choices (rumors have been pointing to none)? Here are a few answers we get a look at the rumored units of Cult Mechanicus.

Please remember that these are rumors. I look forward to this one. I am really liking the Adeptus Mechanicus forces that are being released. Hopefully we will start hearing more details about these units.

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
Cult Mechanicus is the same size as skitarii, Very few units and no fast attack options. There is also no vehicles. Just to clear up some misconceptions, here is a brief unit overview.
HQ
Tech-Priest Dominus
Troop
Kataphron Breachers/ Destroyers
Elite
Fulgurite/Corpuscarii Electro-Priests
Heavy
Kastelan Robot Maniple

The current thinking of many on this codex along with the Skitarii codex is that these eventually will all become one codex. Its hard to know for certain, but with rumors of a full sized Adeptus Mechanicus codex in the future, its quite possible that we will see these combined. It looks like the next few weeks will be all about the Cult Mechanicus. I look forward to seeing these models from the descriptions we have heard.

here are some links if you have missed anything regarding the Cult Mechanicus
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2015/04/cult-mechanicus-rumor-compilation.html
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2015/04/cult-mechanicus-kataphron-destroyers.html
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2015/04/cult-mechanicus-giant-robots-uncovered.html

Whaaaaa????

That's the craziest force ever. But mechanicus stuff cool.

edit

I've been told that the propper AM codex is at least 6 months away. The yearly renewal might happen on the "smaller " Codex.

This is from someone I consider fairly trustworthy however he has been wrong since he did say fantasy was may.

**Looky Likey**

It'd fit with GW's policy of allies solves everything, why sell one codex for an army when you can sell three.

**nudibranch**

Still no vehicles? Hrmmmmm... This is really quite odd. I'm guessing they'll have some more vehicles (transports especially) in the final dex.

**ultimentra**

There's always allies. We all know the Chimera is moving from DT to FA in the next guard codex.

**rustproof**

New guard codex??

**Super Newb**

rustproof wrote:
New guard codex??

Transports all seem to be moving to the fast attack slot when they are not taken as dedicated transports. That's the trend in recent releases... going back to Space Wolves I think?

**Kanluwen**

Super Newb wrote:
rustproof wrote:
New guard codex??

Transports all seem to be moving to the fast attack slot when they are not taken as dedicated transports. That's the trend in recent releases... going back to Space Wolves I think?

Orks came out before Space Wolves and they have it.

I want to say that Militarum Tempestus had it as well for the Taurox Prime, but I can't say for certain. If they did--then MT was first.

Annoyingly enough in any case, Guard did not get it for Chimeras. I hope they don't though. Rent-A-Chimera is just as dumb as Rent-A-Drop-Pod. I'm considering a house rule where any model that is not in Power or Terminator Armor that is in a Drop Pod that Deep Strikes has to make a Toughness or Initiative Test or suffer a wound, with no saves of any kind allowed.

**nudibranch**

That's boooooring, though! I want a weird, unique Admech transport along the lines of the triaros (though it would be nice to be able to use that in a 40K army, just make it a relic of the armoury.)

**migooo**

I still hope we get a was it a mole transport? The subterranean one??

But if they did that it be more for AM proper

**ultimentra**

Kanluwen wrote:
Super Newb wrote:
rustproof wrote:
New guard codex??

Transports all seem to be moving to the fast attack slot when they are not taken as dedicated transports. That's the trend in recent releases... going back to Space Wolves I think?

Orks came out before Space Wolves and they have it.

I want to say that Militarum Tempestus had it as well for the Taurox Prime, but I can't say for certain. If they did--then MT was first.

Annoyingly enough in any case, Guard did not get it for Chimeras. I hope they don't though. Rent-A-Chimera is just as dumb as Rent-A-Drop-Pod. I'm considering a house rule where any model that is not in Power or Terminator Armor that is in a Drop Pod that Deep Strikes has to make a Toughness or Initiative Test or suffer a wound, with no saves of any kind allowed.

Its really quite sad and hilarious that you think this way, the Admech make all this stuff you know that right? Those Chimeras and Rhinos, and the STCs needed to make them were the property of the Admech before they were the property of whatever regiment or chapter. With Drop Pods its a little bit of fluff We can find a better term here please. Thanks. Reds8n , sure, but Chimeras and Rhinos? No. You bet your ass the Admech uses those.

**Kanluwen**

ultimentra wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Super Newb wrote:
rustproof wrote:
New guard codex??

Transports all seem to be moving to the fast attack slot when they are not taken as dedicated transports. That's the trend in recent releases... going back to Space Wolves I think?

Orks came out before Space Wolves and they have it.

I want to say that Militarum Tempestus had it as well for the Taurox Prime, but I can't say for certain. If they did--then MT was first.

Annoyingly enough in any case, Guard did not get it for Chimeras. I hope they don't though. Rent-A-Chimera is just as dumb as Rent-A-Drop-Pod. I'm considering a house rule where any model that is not in Power or Terminator Armor that is in a Drop Pod that Deep Strikes has to make a Toughness or Initiative Test or suffer a wound, with no saves of any kind allowed.

Its really quite sad and hilarious that you think this way, the Admech make all this stuff you know that right? Those Chimeras and Rhinos, and the STCs needed to make them were the property of the Admech before they were the property of whatever regiment or chapter. With Drop Pods its a little bit of fluff We can find a better term here please. Thanks. Reds8n, sure, but Chimeras and Rhinos? No. You bet your ass the Admech uses those.

You understand the difference between "My AdMech units have the option of buying a Chimera transport for X points, as a unit option" and "My AdMech units have no option of buying a Chimera transport, so instead I use the Imperial Guard Codex with an HQ, two Troop choices, and then fill my Fast Attack slots with empty Chimeras", right?

Nowhere in my post did I say "They absolutely should not have access to any transports!"(although, if you actually read the Skitarii book it makes a pretty compelling case for the reasoning behind not giving them transports). That's YOU reading into my post what YOU want to reply to.

**nudibranch**

migooo wrote:
I still hope we get a was it a mole transport? The subterranean one??

But if they did that it be more for AM proper

There is the Hades breaching drill, though technically it's just a massive drill that guardsmen follow behind, not really a tank. I'm not sure if regular IG can use it, but I know Death Korps can. Eh, you can't use it anyway. It functions like a dedicated transport drop pod, so Skitarii would not be able to use it anyway.

Also, damn you GW for renaming IG Astra Millitarum. Now we have two playable factions with the initials AM...

**ultimentra**

Kanluwen wrote:
ultimentra wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Super Newb wrote:
rustproof wrote:
New guard codex??

Transports all seem to be moving to the fast attack slot when they are not taken as dedicated transports. That's the trend in recent releases... going back to Space Wolves I think?

Orks came out before Space Wolves and they have it.

I want to say that Militarum Tempestus had it as well for the Taurox Prime, but I can't say for certain. If they did--then MT was first.

Annoyingly enough in any case, Guard did not get it for Chimeras. I hope they don't though. Rent-A-Chimera is just as dumb as Rent-A-Drop-Pod. I'm considering a house rule where any model that is not in Power or Terminator Armor that is in a Drop Pod that Deep Strikes has to make a Toughness or Initiative Test or suffer a wound, with no saves of any kind allowed.

Its really quite sad and hilarious that you think this way, the Admech make all this stuff you know that right? Those Chimeras and Rhinos, and the STCs needed to make them were the property of the Admech before they were the property of whatever regiment or chapter. With Drop Pods its a little bit of fluff rape, sure, but Chimeras and Rhinos? No. You bet your ass the Admech uses those.

You understand the difference between "My AdMech units have the option of buying a Chimera transport for X points, as a unit option" and "My AdMech units have no option of buying a Chimera transport, so instead I use the Imperial Guard Codex with an HQ, two Troop choices, and then fill my Fast Attack slots with empty Chimeras", right?

Nowhere in my post did I say "They absolutely should not have access to any transports!"(although, if you actually read the Skitarii book it makes a pretty compelling case for the reasoning behind not giving them transports). That's YOU reading into my post what YOU want to reply to.

So let me get this straight, you only support it if its done the official, proper way through codex rules? Dude, seriously, taking the Guard HQ and troops and taking FA chimeras serves the exact same purpose. In the end you get some Guard stuff as a tax, big deal. Hell it might even come in handy. Yea I agree, the Skitarii should get transport options, but if we need to take allies to do it then why the hell not allow it? It effectively does the same thing.

**migooo**

It was called the Termite. I remember now.

Or you could just buy the models you like and have friendly games?

**beast_gts**

migooo wrote:
It was called the Termite. I remember now.

There was the Termite, Mole & Hellbore:

Spoiler:

**nudibranch**

beast_gts wrote:
migooo wrote:
It was called the Termite. I remember now.

There was the Termite, Mole & Hellbore:

Spoiler:

Oooohh, those would be nice...

**Exergy**

Yodhrin wrote:
Their heads are rife with targeting reticules and there is no organic components visible on these versions of the models.

BOOOOOO.

Swing n' a miss GW, swing n' a miss. Their plastics tech has gotten pretty decent at organic shapes recently, still not resin but pretty good, so I find it really confusing that they seem so reticent to push the fusion of man and machine/body-horror/Blanche-esque side of the Mechanicus aesthetic, almost as much as I find their insistence on ignoring the existing background, sparse though it may be, about the Mechanicus' military annoying. I understand that they're labouring under the delusion that throwing new names at things will stop 3rd parties by somehow making everything super-ultra-mega-Voltron-level copywritten, and so they balk at historical-adjacent terms like "Praetorian" and "Sagitarii", but damnit I heard "Skitarii" and "tracked heavy infantry" and was finally looking forward to fielding on the tabletop the units which attracted me to the faction years and years ago when they were just fluff. Call them "Blurblewurlble-class Praetorians" and "Sagitarii Gurblegurps" or whatever if you need to pander to the laywers, but at least nod to the old background.

And give me my giant implausible grotesquely over-muscled half-man-half-machine combat servitors, dagnabbit.

I really would have enjoyed more robes, less robot.

**beast_gts**

nudibranch wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
migooo wrote:
It was called the Termite. I remember now.

There was the Termite, Mole & Hellbore:

Spoiler:

Oooohh, those would be nice...

Ramshackle do a nice one - http://shop.ramshacklegames.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=211

**ansacs**

Actually if you think about it. According to the Skitarii fluff they don't have the transports. So does that mean they show up to a war zone and then refuse rides? No, that is ridiculous, by the time they walk to the actual battlefront the war could be over and any STCs long destroyed or carted off. So when the Skitarii show up and need to be driven around the commander would obviously get another of his available forces to drive them. The Skitarii may not have any transports of their own but the IoM rarely fights with only one branch of it's army and have numerous examples in fluff of attaches being transported by other branches (Imperial Navy is the most common example).

This is similar to the movie American Sniper (or reality for any of you armed forces guys). Chris Kyle is a navy seal sniper supporting the marines and GIs. Do you think that the navy seals transported a navy seal hummer to the middle east just to drive him? Nope, they either get some bored army grunt (my little brother can attest to this) or make a driver pool to do so. The vehicle and drivers are Army (Marines, National Guard, whatever trooper is standing around) and the "unit" transported is Navy Seal(s).

**migooo**

beast_gts wrote:
migooo wrote:
It was called the Termite. I remember now.

There was the Termite, Mole & Hellbore:

Spoiler:

Oooooooh yes!

We can hope right?

**BloodGrin**

ultimentra wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
ultimentra wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Super Newb wrote:
rustproof wrote:
New guard codex??

Transports all seem to be moving to the fast attack slot when they are not taken as dedicated transports. That's the trend in recent releases... going back to Space Wolves I think?

Orks came out before Space Wolves and they have it.

I want to say that Militarum Tempestus had it as well for the Taurox Prime, but I can't say for certain. If they did--then MT was first.

Annoyingly enough in any case, Guard did not get it for Chimeras. I hope they don't though. Rent-A-Chimera is just as dumb as Rent-A-Drop-Pod. I'm considering a house rule where any model that is not in Power or Terminator Armor that is in a Drop Pod that Deep Strikes has to make a Toughness or Initiative Test or suffer a wound, with no saves of any kind allowed.

Its really quite sad and hilarious that you think this way, the Admech make all this stuff you know that right? Those Chimeras and Rhinos, and the STCs needed to make them were the property of the Admech before they were the property of whatever regiment or chapter. With Drop Pods its a little bit of fluff rape, sure, but Chimeras and Rhinos? No. You bet your ass the Admech uses those.

You understand the difference between "My AdMech units have the option of buying a Chimera transport for X points, as a unit option" and "My AdMech units have no option of buying a Chimera transport, so instead I use the Imperial Guard Codex with an HQ, two Troop choices, and then fill my Fast Attack slots with empty Chimeras", right?

Nowhere in my post did I say "They absolutely should not have access to any transports!"(although, if you actually read the Skitarii book it makes a pretty compelling case for the reasoning behind not giving them transports). That's YOU reading into my post what YOU want to reply to.

So let me get this straight, you only support it if its done the official, proper way through codex rules? Dude, seriously, taking the Guard HQ and troops and taking FA chimeras serves the exact same purpose. In the end you get some Guard stuff as a tax, big deal. Hell it might even come in handy. Yea I agree, the Skitarii should get transport options, but if we need to take allies to do it then why the hell not allow it? It effectively does the same thing.

Take Inquisition allies for cheap psykers with psychotroke grenades, inquisitional rhinos or land raiders (they still get psybolt ammo) and again they are cheap on points and in inquisitors can be tailored for what you need (anti psyker/daemon or general ordo Xenos).

Having a psyker in each unit to reroll hits is kind of nice.

**Anvildude**

migooo wrote:
It was called the Termite. I remember now.

Or you could just buy the models you like and have friendly games?

Heresy!

Honestly though, it's strange how this is exactly how GW expects their games to be played, but the people who actually play them are so persnickety about rules and regulations.

**Thargrim**

All of the Cult Mechanicus stuff sounds too good, Im working on Skitarii right now... I might hold off on any more purchases if they are going to be releasing even more Mechanicus stuff!

**nudibranch**

BloodGrin wrote:
ultimentra wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
ultimentra wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Super Newb wrote:
rustproof wrote:
New guard codex??

Transports all seem to be moving to the fast attack slot when they are not taken as dedicated transports. That's the trend in recent releases... going back to Space Wolves I think?

Orks came out before Space Wolves and they have it.

I want to say that Militarum Tempestus had it as well for the Taurox Prime, but I can't say for certain. If they did--then MT was first.

Annoyingly enough in any case, Guard did not get it for Chimeras. I hope they don't though. Rent-A-Chimera is just as dumb as Rent-A-Drop-Pod. I'm considering a house rule where any model that is not in Power or Terminator Armor that is in a Drop Pod that Deep Strikes has to make a Toughness or Initiative Test or suffer a wound, with no saves of any kind allowed.

Its really quite sad and hilarious that you think this way, the Admech make all this stuff you know that right? Those Chimeras and Rhinos, and the STCs needed to make them were the property of the Admech before they were the property of whatever regiment or chapter. With Drop Pods its a little bit of fluff rape, sure, but Chimeras and Rhinos? No. You bet your ass the Admech uses those.

You understand the difference between "My AdMech units have the option of buying a Chimera transport for X points, as a unit option" and "My AdMech units have no option of buying a Chimera transport, so instead I use the Imperial Guard Codex with an HQ, two Troop choices, and then fill my Fast Attack slots with empty Chimeras", right?

Nowhere in my post did I say "They absolutely should not have access to any transports!"(although, if you actually read the Skitarii book it makes a pretty compelling case for the reasoning behind not giving them transports). That's YOU reading into my post what YOU want to reply to.

So let me get this straight, you only support it if its done the official, proper way through codex rules? Dude, seriously, taking the Guard HQ and troops and taking FA chimeras serves the exact same purpose. In the end you get some Guard stuff as a tax, big deal. Hell it might even come in handy. Yea I agree, the Skitarii should get transport options, but if we need to take allies to do it then why the hell not allow it? It effectively does the same thing.

Take Inquisition allies for cheap psykers with psychotroke grenades, inquisitional rhinos or land raiders (they still get psybolt ammo) and again they are cheap on points and in inquisitors can be tailored for what you need (anti psyker/daemon or general ordo Xenos).

Having a psyker in each unit to reroll hits is kind of nice.

You also get old style chimaeras too, unless they updated that....

**lord marcus**

EVERYBODY!

**warboss**

Thanks for the pic. I've saved it just in case. The not-thallax look interesting but the FW thallax look alot better still. At least there will be an easy counts as for players. It's good to see that early skittari adopters can use their stuff there as well.

**Seneca**

Thats what I call a leak!!!! Good Sir you won the Internet today!!!!

**ashikenshin**

Wow looks very ... Mars attack

**Exergy**

lord marcus wrote:
EVERYBODY!

Well that settles it for me

Not using the GW robots
converting my own.

Like the character models and the tracked infantry though.

**legions_no_more**

OMG!!! I will now use what lef tof my saving to get a full cult machanicus army!