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DaPino wrote:

If I bring an AV 12 vehicle list and all you bring is bolters, I highly doubt that you'll be having fun because you will literally be equal to a bystander because nothing you do will have any effect on the game.

It would be my own fault for only bringing bolters.

Who brings a knife to a gun fight ?

Orks don't field an all Gretchin forces for a reason. Sure, it would be fluffy, and could be fun to play, but you would be gimping your army.

Hey, I brought all Gretchin, would you mind completely redoing your entire 1500 point army not to include any vehicles or Monstrous creatures ?

Sure, I would do it for a friend, if they gave me advance notice.
But a pickup game, with someone you just know from the FLGS, with no advance notice ?
Do you have that many points of extra models with you ?
Can you piece together a competant force with what you have on hand ?
Do you like the person you are playing against enough to even bother ?

Makumba wrote:
Ah and IG has no way to deliver a first turn melta in to 6" or under range.

D99 or Elysians can Combat Drop Valkyries full of melta-vets/Executioner squads. Not the regular IG book but some of the same models.

There is nothing at all wrong with setting up a game where your opponent and you agree to not use superheavies. It would only be wrong if you both agree to it and you showed up with a baneblade pr he with a knight breaking the agreement.

I play in a friendly environment....And I really hate how Knights were brought into normal games. I ask my friend if he could not use his knight , and just play without it. If he says no, then I will make a list that is just cheesy and not fun to play against. I can easily tailor my list to make sure he cant do anything...But that is just not fun , so I try to keep thinks friendly and fluffy.

 EVIL INC wrote:
There is nothing at all wrong with setting up a game where your opponent and you agree to not use superheavies. It would only be wrong if you both agree to it and you showed up with a baneblade pr he with a knight breaking the agreement.

I absolutely agree with you.

Bringing this back to the OP's situation.

The OP knows, in advance, the opponent he will likely face off against likes to field 2 Imperial Knights, and outflanking sisters.
The OP wants to bring an army that he thinks will do poorly in that match up.
The OP asked if people thought it would be okay if he asked the guy, when he gets there, to redo his army not to include the IKs.
The OP has other armies better suited to the match up.

The thread quickly dissolved into factions
A.) No, it's not okay. If you want to play an army that cant handle armor, be prepared to lose when you go up against armor.
B.) Yes, it's okay to open a dialouge. You shouldn't play what's not fun for you.
C.) Yes, Imperial Knights are the evil. How dare GW insert things I don't want to fight into a codex, and not just a supplement I can blanket refuse to use.
D.) Yes. Imperial Knight players are WAAC
E.) GW is Evil, 40K is the suck
F.) Yes, it's okay to open a dialouge, but remember he is under no obligation to agree to your request. His desire to play those Imperial Knights is every bit as valid as you desire not to play against him.
G.) People whose answer is other than A and want to know what right the people who chose A have to have an opinion other than theirs

I'm in the F camp

I, too, am in the F) camp.

I also really disagree with people in the C) and D) [especially D), that's like saying all Daemon, Tau, SM and Eldar players are WAAC]

But that's another story

I think almost everyone is A or F and G is just an F who finds people who are black and white A to be annoying.

DaKKaLAnce wrote:
I play in a friendly environment....And I really hate how Knights were brought into normal games. I ask my friend if he could not use his knight , and just play without it. If he says no, then I will make a list that is just cheesy and not fun to play against. I can easily tailor my list to make sure he cant do anything...But that is just not fun , so I try to keep thinks friendly and fluffy.

So your response to your opponent bringing a list that violates your arbitrary rule about what "should" be allowed is to list tailor and make sure they don't have any fun and learn not to break your arbitrary rules in the future? Are you aware that a single knight isn't even close to overpowered?

DaKKaLAnce wrote:
I play in a friendly environment....And I really hate how Knights were brought into normal games. I ask my friend if he could not use his knight , and just play without it. If he says no, then I will make a list that is just cheesy and not fun to play against. I can easily tailor my list to make sure he cant do anything...But that is just not fun , so I try to keep thinks friendly and fluffy.

Until you find that some people like the "cheesy" lists to play against. I want someone to play at their best, even if I decide to make a poor choice in my list. I just wanted to field my custom Nemesor. I'm not gonna stop someone from using a bunch of Centurions or Wave Serpents.

DaKKaLAnce wrote:
I play in a friendly environment....And I really hate how Knights were brought into normal games. I ask my friend if he could not use his knight , and just play without it. If he says no, then I will make a list that is just cheesy and not fun to play against. I can easily tailor my list to make sure he cant do anything...But that is just not fun , so I try to keep thinks friendly and fluffy.

Why not just pass on the game instead of playing a not-fun game?

I would ask my opponent to not bring Knights, but only because it's BORING to kill them. Land 5 warriors and 2 Harbingers of Storm next to the Knight, fire 8 Haywire shots. Rinse and repeat as needed.

 Fafnir13 wrote:
I would ask my opponent to not bring Knights, but only because it's BORING to kill them. Land 5 warriors and 2 Harbingers of Storm next to the Knight, fire 8 Haywire shots. Rinse and repeat as needed.

I've been running an Overlord, with 4 Stormteks and 1 Veiltek lately. I'm just waiting for the next poor fool that fields an Imperial Knight against me.

 adamsouza wrote:

 Fafnir13 wrote:
I would ask my opponent to not bring Knights, but only because it's BORING to kill them. Land 5 warriors and 2 Harbingers of Storm next to the Knight, fire 8 Haywire shots. Rinse and repeat as needed.

I've been running an Overlord, with 4 Stormteks and 1 Veiltek lately. I'm just waiting for the next poor fool that fields an Imperial Knight against me.

Tzeentch Daemons. Keep up an endless stream of Screamers to lock the Knight in melee and bog it down.