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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/06 06:59:38
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Which is the superior model? I really like the Storm Eagle's transport capacity and it has decent firepower, but the fact that it is not a flyer is kind of disappointing. The Fire Raptor has tons of firepower, but no carrying capacity.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/06 07:11:18
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Slippery Scout Biker
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Errr,,last i checked the Storm Eagle is a flyer.
I own both and the models are fantastic - difficult to put together - but good on the table in games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/06 09:04:11
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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The storm eagle is a flyer? What else would it be...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/06 12:51:10
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Orlando
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Do you need a transport or a gunship? Both are flyers, not sure where you got that one wasn't. Both are effective in their roles. The SE is obviously a bit more versatile but you pay for that ability and even then it wont catch up to the firepower of a raptor. The Raptor is a beatstick, pure and simple and worth every point.
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If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/06 14:58:05
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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Definitely the Fire Raptor, and this is coming from someone who owns a Storm Eagle. I just far prefer flyers in a gunship role rather than transport, although either way they're very difficult to shoot down.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/06 17:28:12
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Unless they changed it in a FAQ, the Storm Eagle is listed in its FW rules as a Fast Skimmer, where as the Fire Raptor is a Flyer Hover.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/06 18:12:01
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Orlando
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I don't have the books to look but I am 99% positive in the HH books and unless it was a typo, in the latest Imperial Armor book, it is a flyer. Having it as a skimmer sounds like a 5th edition thing.
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If you dont short hand your list, Im not reading it.
Example: Assault Intercessors- x5 -Thunder hammer and plasma pistol on sgt.
or Assault Terminators 3xTH/SS, 2xLCs
For the love of God, GW, get rid of reroll mechanics. ALL OF THEM! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/06 18:15:26
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
Sioux Falls, SD
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Both of them are great for there purposes, it really comes down to what you need it for, if you want to transport things with decent firepower, storm eagle, want a gun boat with no transport space, fire raptor.
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Blood for the bloo... wait no, I meant for Sanguinius! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/06 18:17:46
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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jreilly89 wrote:Unless they changed it in a FAQ, the Storm Eagle is listed in its FW rules as a Fast Skimmer, where as the Fire Raptor is a Flyer Hover.
Which book are you looking in that has it as a skimmer?
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One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/06 21:52:04
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Tannhauser42 wrote: jreilly89 wrote:Unless they changed it in a FAQ, the Storm Eagle is listed in its FW rules as a Fast Skimmer, where as the Fire Raptor is a Flyer Hover.
Which book are you looking in that has it as a skimmer?
Just the FW digital PDF, have yet to look at the Imperial Armor book. Automatically Appended Next Post: TheAvengingKnee wrote:Both of them are great for there purposes, it really comes down to what you need it for, if you want to transport things with decent firepower, storm eagle, want a gun boat with no transport space, fire raptor.
The more I look, I think I'll go with the Fire Raptor. I could use the more dakka, especially against other flyers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/06 22:40:13
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
Sheppey, England
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The Storm Eagle's a Vehicle, Flyer, Hover .. according to both Imperial Armour Aeronautica and HH1.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/06 23:05:50
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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jreilly89 wrote:Unless they changed it in a FAQ, the Storm Eagle is listed in its FW rules as a Fast Skimmer, where as the Fire Raptor is a Flyer Hover.
You son, are looking at a pre-6th ed dataslate. BTW, Fire Raptor if you're dropping that cash... the much cheaper storm raven is similar enough storm eagle.
FYI if its not here: don't treat it as current http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/fwDownloads
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/07 00:44:22
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Lobukia wrote: jreilly89 wrote:Unless they changed it in a FAQ, the Storm Eagle is listed in its FW rules as a Fast Skimmer, where as the Fire Raptor is a Flyer Hover.
You son, are looking at a pre-6th ed dataslate. BTW, Fire Raptor if you're dropping that cash... the much cheaper storm raven is similar enough storm eagle.
FYI if its not here: don't treat it as current http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/fwDownloads
Actually, it's not. I did a post awhile back and someone showed me that the Fire Raptor/Storm Eagle box is about 6" longer than the Raven. Someone did a nice proxy though using the front of a Raven and part of a Vendetta box, then pinned the wings on the rear of it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/07 01:00:44
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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They're both very good, but they're both very good at different things. The Storm Eagle is an assault transport that makes dead certain your assault troops make it onto the ground, the Fire Raptor is a gunship that wrecks any medium-armour targets. If you're only going to use one the Fire Raptor is probably a better choice, though, since it's more broadly useful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/07 01:19:21
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
Inside Yvraine
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I'd take the Fire Raptor for its firepower. imo, using flyers for transportation is inefficient. If you want to transport something across the board quickly, take a pod or a rhino/razorback/land raider. Putting something in a flyer, they likely won't be doing anything until around turn 3.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/07 02:39:51
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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jreilly89 wrote: Lobukia wrote: jreilly89 wrote:Unless they changed it in a FAQ, the Storm Eagle is listed in its FW rules as a Fast Skimmer, where as the Fire Raptor is a Flyer Hover.
You son, are looking at a pre-6th ed dataslate. BTW, Fire Raptor if you're dropping that cash... the much cheaper storm raven is similar enough storm eagle.
FYI if its not here: don't treat it as current http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/fwDownloads
Actually, it's not. I did a post awhile back and someone showed me that the Fire Raptor/Storm Eagle box is about 6" longer than the Raven. Someone did a nice proxy though using the front of a Raven and part of a Vendetta box, then pinned the wings on the rear of it.
I meant similar enough in what they do in your list. Not literally one is the other.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/07 03:06:46
Subject: Storm Eagle or Fire Raptor?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Lobukia wrote: jreilly89 wrote: Lobukia wrote: jreilly89 wrote:Unless they changed it in a FAQ, the Storm Eagle is listed in its FW rules as a Fast Skimmer, where as the Fire Raptor is a Flyer Hover.
You son, are looking at a pre-6th ed dataslate. BTW, Fire Raptor if you're dropping that cash... the much cheaper storm raven is similar enough storm eagle.
FYI if its not here: don't treat it as current http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/fwDownloads
Actually, it's not. I did a post awhile back and someone showed me that the Fire Raptor/Storm Eagle box is about 6" longer than the Raven. Someone did a nice proxy though using the front of a Raven and part of a Vendetta box, then pinned the wings on the rear of it.
I meant similar enough in what they do in your list. Not literally one is the other.
Ah, thats a different story lol. Side note, does the Fire Raptor come with the base for the flyer?
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