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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
But wait, no slave Sisters? I have a few of those that I got as bitz, for Objective Markers.

This does not exist.

Sure they do!


And they're great!
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 ClockworkZion wrote:
I never ran Retributors and with how limited their AoF are now I don't see a reason to pick up more. I ran Heavy Flamer/Melta in my BSS squads hence that model count.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
But wait, no slave Sisters? I have a few of those that I got as bitz, for Objective Markers.

They were a Dark Eldar thing only.

I prefer Heavy Flamer & Flamer in my Sisters squads - anything you want to put a Flamer template on probably needs 2 of them. I have seriously considered whether it makes sense to fit a SS with a Combi-Flamer for a 3rd template when it's *really* time to light things up.

The slave Sister was defintely available via regular bitz service, back when bitz were a thing.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

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 ncshooter426 wrote:
I'll give you 50$ for the no longer loved ladies.

It is not only a terrible deal (I could get many times that easily!), but I still do love them. Even if GW squat them, I would still like to play them from time to time with marines rules or something. I painted them, I converted most of the Superior models, the tanks and Celestine, I even got them some awesome, awesome DCA count-as. I really like the models. I am not letting them go. And I will be jumping back to them if they get an update. I am just not waiting in despair for it to happen anymore.

You know I was giving you gak right? Hell, I'll buy out *anyone's* SoB army at 50$ any day of the week LOL. I sold my old army last year, regretted it -so I just bought a nice set from a guy on BT. I'm happy to be back in the saddle as it were.




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 ClockworkZion wrote:


I keep an inventory actually:

GIMME!!!


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I love the sisters for a variety of reasons, but overall:

- They've got an interesting dynamic. There are ton of Astartes, millions of IG, but only a smattering of AS. Their iconography is unique amongst the rest of the universe... not just skulls and Aquilas for these ladies of the bolter.

- They're a middleground between IG and SM. The IG side, std. unarmored human with lots and lots of bodies and mech. SM, superhumans with ridiculous armor levels, decent amount of mech. The sisters fall in the middle. They're still human, but get the better armor. They've got access to the tech of the IG, but at the same readiness level of SM.

- Unlike the SM/IG, the Emperor actually likes them No, really. They're so fanatical that the dude says "Oh FFS they're chanting again...here!" and routinely saves them with miracles and gak.The sheer ratio of Miracle:Sister is far higher than any other unit. They must be doing something right...or wrong I guess.

- Playwise, their AoF is a nice dynamic change to just the normal move-shoot-remove cycle. I liked the old system better than the current one, but it's still unique enough (I haven't tried psychics from Inquisition in 7th yet)

- Biggest bunch of pyros this side of Vulkan -- and that's a good thing.

- Getting your ass kicked by a bunch of girls is always funny no matter what happens. Of the few games I've played, even when I lost, I still had a blast doing it.

- My daughter think they're cool

Nothing personal ncshooter426 but I'm not giving that army up that easily. If we get plastics that'll be my expanded Apoc army.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
But wait, no slave Sisters? I have a few of those that I got as bitz, for Objective Markers.

This does not exist.

Sure they do!


And they're great!
____

What exactly makes them Sisters? Non-regulation hair, no wargear, no Fleur tattoos sculpted on...

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
But wait, no slave Sisters? I have a few of those that I got as bitz, for Objective Markers.

This does not exist.

Sure they do!


And they're great!
____

What exactly makes them Sisters? Non-regulation hair, no wargear, no Fleur tattoos sculpted on...

The one on the right has the holy bowl cut, and is wearing half a Sister's robes.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

GW has a shiny new Warhound? Or are you talking about the smaller, static and merely adequate Knight?

And really, I don't even need new Sisters - the 1000 pts I have is more than adequate when paired with other Imperial support. If Jes ain't sculpting 'em, I don't want 'em.

I don't play at GW stores, so I can't say for sure. The Leviathan has the Rule of Cool, tho. RH's Sisters are still "wait and see".

Aside from Sisters of Battle, GW metal infantry is still cheaper (and better): 10 Tallarn for $40; 10 Valhallan / Vostroyan / Mordian / ASAL for $35; 12 Chancers for $35.. I'm still on the fence whether I should order a set of Last Chancers for completeness sake - they're very well-priced compared to that overpriced RH trash.

Seriously, though, metal Sisters are grossly overpriced, but that's because they're priced per point compared to Guardsmen. When you consider that $80 worth of Sisters and $35 worth of Guardsmen are points-equivalent, Sisters are fairly priced. If RH ever gets their Sisters project off the ground, GW may even revisit their Sisters pricing.

All of my Eldar and Guard are metal. Nobody needs to sell me on that!

Yeah, referring to the Imperial Knight, as that is what it was compared to earlier. No idea on size though, but Warhound is also "available", probably as much as the metal sisters are...

Marine Tac Squad is $40. Mass-production, plastic, etc on their side, i think RH can do with the extra $10... Haven't seen the squads yet, so comparison is relatively hard. Poses look good though, but time will tell...

Although my point was not really on price as much as it was on the "We stock that, so go away with your 3rd party stuff". GW can't reaaaaallly do that with Sisters at the moment. A plastic release would cover it (even the box version clip-Sisters).
With precedence of GW Knights = Dreamforge Leviathon, GW Greater Deamon = Creature Caster.

(Which is what i was agreeing with)


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 Furyou Miko wrote:

Spoiler:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
But wait, no slave Sisters? I have a few of those that I got as bitz, for Objective Markers.

This does not exist.

Sure they do!


And they're great!
____

What exactly makes them Sisters? Non-regulation hair, no wargear, no Fleur tattoos sculpted on...

I DENY the existence of those models!!

At least go for the good-looking Hasslefree ones:

WARNING - NSFW Content

Yeah, SoB troopers with proper hairstyles not looking like trannies? Impossible!

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Well, I do not work on my Sisters anymore. I guess that is why we have differing views. I feel like my army is complete enough as is, that is why I would rather be able to continue to use it if I fancy that.
How many Sisters do you have?

I keep an inventory actually:

ClockworkZion - Gallery images: 0



Pictures! That army looks AT LEAST picture-worthy


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 Sigvatr wrote:
Yeah, SoB troopers with proper hairstyles not looking like trannies? Impossible!

The body proportions of the one on the right are horrendous though lol

Pics require me to get the army all painted and it's hard to do that when the paint chips/rubs off as I'm painting. Metal is a bastard to paint on and I can't find a primer locally that sticks like the stuff I used to use.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

What exactly makes them Sisters? Non-regulation hair, no wargear, no Fleur tattoos sculpted on...

The one on the right is clearly a Sister of Battle who has been stripped of her armor, only retaining her SoB skirt. Her hair has not yet grown back in, and still retains much of the Sisters regulation bowl cut.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Pics require me to get the army all painted and it's hard to do that when the paint chips/rubs off as I'm painting. Metal is a bastard to paint on and I can't find a primer locally that sticks like the stuff I used to use.

Sort of had that issue with some parts, but the GW basecoat is not too bad, is it?
I've heard car (automotive) Primers work really well on metal models (obviously get the metallic primers, not the ones for plastic)

As for pictures, Half of mine are unpainted / semi-painted, but who cares lol
Just snap whatever HAS been painted

I'm mainly curious because a few in the list sound like conversions to me:
Inferno Seraphim
Female "Confessor"
Power Halberd Crusader

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I never ran Retributors and with how limited their AoF are now I don't see a reason to pick up more.

Personally I found them pretty useful before, and I would still use them if only for the flavor and fun that they bring over yet one more exorcist.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
If Sisters get plastics I'm doing a full on re-start on my army and relegating the metal ones to Apoc only (to buff my numbers for big games).

I meant if they do not get plastic.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
They were a Dark Eldar thing only.

If I recall correctly, originally they were some bitz in the Dais of Destruction of Asdrubael Vect kit.
Also, those model do not exist. I do not see them. If you will a sock with them and start beating me to death with it, I will still deny they exist and ask you why you are hitting me with an empty sock.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Also, those model do not exist. I do not see them. If you will a sock with them and start beating me to death with it, I will still deny they exist and ask you why you are hitting me with an empty sock.

Yes!

You know that guy who ate 3 packs of Ramen a day until he had a sodium overload and failed his challenge?

Yeah... this is shutting my heart down level of salt.

If they came in plastic, I would be forced to get some. But, it's nat, so I can't trust this.

 BlackTalos wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Pics require me to get the army all painted and it's hard to do that when the paint chips/rubs off as I'm painting. Metal is a bastard to paint on and I can't find a primer locally that sticks like the stuff I used to use.

I've heard car (automotive) Primers work really well on metal models (obviously get the metallic primers, not the ones for plastic)

I have had fairly good luck with Rustoleum automotive "black" and Rustoleum automotive grey primers. They have a bit of tooth, but you'll be spraying basecoat anyways, so not a big deal.

I do miss the old Chaos Black primer - fantastic stuff.

Sigvatr wrote:Yeah, SoB troopers with proper hairstyles not looking like trannies? Impossible!

Ne, if 'tranny' comes from the logical derivation of 'transgender', what would that makes you 'cisgender' blokes..?

A bowl cut is not any better of a look on a man.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
A bowl cut is not any better of a look on a man.

Spoiler:

Bowl cuts can look awesome on women. See for reference this cosplay of some Adepta Sororitas model:

Very good-looking!

That is not the same haircut, and it is not a bowl cut.


For it to be a Sisters regulation bowl cut, there needs to be at least a full fingers gap above the eyebrows.

Here's a couple more examples:

 Furyou Miko wrote:

Sigvatr wrote:Yeah, SoB troopers with proper hairstyles not looking like trannies? Impossible!

Ne, if 'tranny' comes from the logical derivation of 'transgender', what would that makes you 'cisgender' blokes..?

No, "tranny" is slang for "transvestite":
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/tranny

When used against people who are transgender/transsexual it's a slur.


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So more rumors. I apologize for the lack of a proper qoute but I'm mobile posting right now: http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2004546&postcount=8

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:

Sigvatr wrote:Yeah, SoB troopers with proper hairstyles not looking like trannies? Impossible!

Ne, if 'tranny' comes from the logical derivation of 'transgender', what would that makes you 'cisgender' blokes..?

No, "tranny" is slang for "transvestite":
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/tranny

When used against people who are transgender/transsexual it's a slur.


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So more rumors. I apologize for the lack of a proper qoute but I'm mobile posting right now: http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2004546&postcount=8

Here's the quote for ya.

http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2004546&postcount=8
From a little Ripper Swarm to me:
Quote:
The Codex is done, the models are in production, and it's nebulously a Q2 release. It's the Dark Eldar treatment-- rebuilt the range from the ground up, completely.

I'll wait to see what happens but not holding my breath.

I'm waiting to see what happens too. If my Rippers are right about this we're not waiting *that* long to see if they're really coming or not.

But then again apparently GW also stock piles stuff for release (according to some at least) and can shuffle the order if they want so even it is true it can still get moved. :(

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
That is not the same haircut, and it is not a bowl cut.
For it to be a Sisters regulation bowl cut, there needs to be at least a full fingers gap above the eyebrows.

Here's a couple more examples:

Is that regulation some fluff you have or just a wild guess? =P

Cause the models actually have the first example of haircut, not the short examples you've found. Maybe the models don't match the fluff? how UN-surprising lol


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 fox-light713 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

So more rumors. I apologize for the lack of a proper qoute but I'm mobile posting right now: http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2004546&postcount=8

Here's the quote for ya.

http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2004546&postcount=8
From a little Ripper Swarm to me:
Quote:
The Codex is done, the models are in production, and it's nebulously a Q2 release. It's the Dark Eldar treatment-- rebuilt the range from the ground up, completely.

I'll wait to see what happens but not holding my breath.

At least Q2 means we'll know soon if this is to happen or not.... i'm still on 50% there will be something. But Digi-Codex re-hash is at 90% of that, "New" Codex at 5%, with the remaining 5% covering boxes, models, and all the rest of the "wish-list"

Talking to my Ripper Source some more it's looking like late Q2, early Q3. So about May or June is my best guess. If not both just to cover a full relaunch release like the rumor claims.

We'll see though. I'm not holding my breath on this one either.

Yeah, your source wasn't so great last time...

 pretre wrote:
Yeah, your source wasn't so great last time...

I know. At least this is fitting other rumors more this time, which is why I actually shared it.

Well, my wife has 90% of a nice Sisters army right now (bought as a lot on Ebay), but it has gaps (such as how shockingly few Sisters the guy built with meltas, despite sending me a million bolter Sisters). I had been meaning to start buying stuff to fill in those gaps, but I have to say, where there is smoke....

At this point there are soooo many rumors and from enough mid-to-decent accuracy sources that there is probably something to it.

Fingers crossed, but I am ever so slightly getting hopeful for some nice new releases.

 BlackTalos wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
That is not the same haircut, and it is not a bowl cut.
For it to be a Sisters regulation bowl cut, there needs to be at least a full fingers gap above the eyebrows.

Here's a couple more examples:

Is that regulation some fluff you have or just a wild guess? =P

Cause the models actually have the first example of haircut, not the short examples you've found. Maybe the models don't match the fluff? how UN-surprising lol

I'm sorry, but you're saying the examples of the actual reference model from GW is not showing what it clearly shows?



Are you seriously saying that neither of the GW examples apply?

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 BlackTalos wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
That is not the same haircut, and it is not a bowl cut.
For it to be a Sisters regulation bowl cut, there needs to be at least a full fingers gap above the eyebrows.

Here's a couple more examples:

Is that regulation some fluff you have or just a wild guess? =P

Cause the models actually have the first example of haircut, not the short examples you've found. Maybe the models don't match the fluff? how UN-surprising lol

I'm sorry, but you're saying the examples of the actual reference model from GW is not showing what it clearly shows?

Are you seriously saying that neither of the GW examples apply?

I am confused.... Those 2 pictures are what Sisters have, but the 2 bowl-cut ones "there needs to be at least a full fingers gap above the eyebrows" have much shorter hair.

Oh wait, now i read it properly i see what you mean... Fringe is too low....
Thought you used the other 2 examples for hair length (Sides and back) which... is not right

Oh, OK, got it. The thing that makes women's hair goofy is when they cut the front too short. Especially as a bowl cut line. That's what I was reacting to: too short front hair. This is a bad look on just about everyone.

If you look at the Cosplay model, her front hair goes much longer, and it parts. Very different (and far more attractive) framing of the face.