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They should indeed have a flyer or one like the guard that has several options. Possibly even the same one or something off of the same chassis.
Land raider.... I think it would be too bland for them as it is. True, I think they need something that has armor beyond a rhino chassis. The "church' can certainly afford it and it would be fitting.
I can see them having a big armored mobile church. maybe something based on an elongated or extra wide land raider or small baneblade type chassis (maybe a single void shield) with loads of transport capacity and lots of gaudiness with a little bit of firepower. 0-1 though to keep it from being spammed.

I use to run 16 Sisters in a LR Crusader back in 3rd and 4th, which was a blast. Sisters benefit from Land Raiders far more than Marines do, and really should with have access to the Crusader and Redeemer variants, or have their own equivalent.

SJ

Lobukia wrote:First of all, Ad mech do not get the LR as they are not a 40k faction

Unit1126PLL wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
The Mechanicus does not use Land Raiders. The Mechanicum did, in the FW HH books. No mention of it since.

IIRC There have been repeated mentions in Black Library books of Mechanicus Explorator teams with Land Raider command tanks. In fact, again if memory serves, the Mechanicus contingent with the Imperial Guard in one of the stories in the Planetkill compilation have a Land Raider.

A Sisters-only version of the Crassus would be kind of cool.

I know fluff is against it but a land raider makes sense.
Its a tough assault tank and crusader patterns could be modified to reflect there favored weapons.

Maybe they can do a deal with templers?

 jhe90 wrote:
I know fluff is against it but a land raider makes sense.
Its a tough assault tank and crusader patterns could be modified to reflect there favored weapons.

Maybe they can do a deal with templers?

I've always wondered why the Templars and Sisters weren't super BFFs in the fluff, maybe the BT think they have cooties. While a super unique sisters transport would be super cool, i think having access to crusaders and redeemers would be perfect for the sisters Holy Trinity of awesome sauce weapons, and it would be a great way to deploy mass squads of sisters to unleash some bolter or flamer hell on their enemies.

 PaperworkNinja wrote:
A Sisters-only version of the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT would be kind of cool.

Fixed that for you.

Giving the Sisters a Land Raider is lazy. Let's give them bikes, termies, and land speeders, too. They don't need a vehicle with assault ramps, they need to make our existing assault units work properly with simple rules changes.

 Hawky wrote:
Some nice transport/gunship would be nice.
Only SM vehicle I would give them is a Razorback, which they doesn't have, iirc.

 Ashiraya wrote:
They have a repressor instead of razorback.

Land Raiders are too rare and precious to be wasted on mere humans. >:|

Exceptions can always be made for an Inquisitor and his retinue, but they are exceptions to everything.

SoB have their own razorback variant. It's called an Immolator

 fox-light713 wrote:

SoB have their own razorback variant. It's called an Immolator

And it is IMO superior to the Razorback. Both can have the TL Heavy Bolters and Hflamers but it's when you reach TL Multimeltas that you really start talking. Ofc, it's the Outflanking Dominion Squad that makes it better.

The Immolator used to be superior until they broke the Heavy Flamer version (can only move 6" and shoot) and nicked the fire point.

Something to remember is that getting equipment in 40k isn't solely about money. it's also about build time. Getting a light variant of powered armour for their infantry, sure. Getting a Land Raider, a tank only made at some Forge World, and even then, in small numbers? Money isn't the problem, and never really had been in 40k. It's all about the fact that they take years to build one while constantly consecrating it in holy oils and incense and chanting prayers to the engin... machine spirit while thinking any of that is actually doing a fething thing.

Rare equipment in 40k is rare because the Imperium is dumb and doesn't know how to make it in large quantities, or at all. Not because their internal departments don't have the money to get it.

What sisters need is a church on a baneblade chassis.

 dracpanzer wrote:
What sisters need is a church on a baneblade chassis.

Like a Tower of Skulls but not Heretical.

That'd solve our Super Heavy issues nicely (though I kind of want it to be a new chassis instead of just rehashing the Baneblade one), but the army could still use a decent assault transport. Something that could give the punchier parts of the army at least a little love. I'm not saying it should be the Land Raider (since that's restricted to Marines), but a rolling chapel of some kind that has fanatics come pouring out of it (like a smaller version of the superheavy cathedral) would be cool. Make the big one hold something like 40-50 models and the small one hold like half and we'd have a pretty thematic pair of options.

generalchaos34 wrote:I've always wondered why the Templars and Sisters weren't super BFFs in the fluff

I always figured it to be a Protestants and Catholics type thing. Or Sunni and Shia Muslims. The Yooks and the Zooks. They worship more or less the same thing, and should be able to get along real well. But the niggling details always get in the way and cause strife.


Doesn't really matter anymore though. They more or less retconned that in 6th Editon when they switched the Black Templars to essentially following the Imperial Cult and worshipping the Emprah. So technically they are best buddies now.

 dracpanzer wrote:
What sisters need is a church on a baneblade chassis.

SisterSydney link-bomb in 3, 2, 1...

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 dracpanzer wrote:
What sisters need is a church on a baneblade chassis.

Like a Tower of Skulls but not Heretical.

Tower of Skulls of the Martyrs.

 koooaei wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 dracpanzer wrote:
What sisters need is a church on a baneblade chassis.

Like a Tower of Skulls but not Heretical.

Tower of Skulls of the Martyrs.

Considering the Imperium has a few planets full of them I think they can manage. I mean they've got something like 16 Quadrillion Citizens. Scaring up some skulls shouldn't be that hard.

 generalchaos34 wrote:
[I've always wondered why the Templars and Sisters weren't super BFFs in the fluff, maybe the BT think they have cooties.

Because of exchanges like this:

Canoness Gonzaga: "You there, boy!"

Squeaky-voiced Neophyte: "Yes, Canoness Gazong- er, Gonzaga!"

Canoness Gonzaga: "... Bring your Castellan at once. I have matters of great importance to discuss with him! We must cross this river at once."

Squeaky-voiced Neophyte: "Oh boy! A mission! By the Twin Globes of-"

Canoness Gonzaga: "..."

Squeaky-voiced Neophyte: "-Faith and Honor I will not fail you!"

Canoness Gonzaga: "Right. Be off with you."

Squeaky-voiced Neophyte: "I'll ride through that canyon on my motorboat any time for your honor, Canoness Gazongas!"

*SMITE*

Canoness Gonzaga: "You, there, Other Neophyte!"

Other Neophyte: "Uhm. Hi. Uh, Canoness."

Canoness Gonzaga: "Look me in the eyes, boy! This is an important message."

Other Neophyte: "Uhm, gosh, well, uh, I..."

Canoness Gonzaga: "By the Golden Throne of Terra, can't any of you neophytes do a simple job?"

Other Neophyte: "But you're so pretty and the scent of promethium mingles with your incense and it reminds me of my mom and-"

*SMITE*

Canoness Gonzaga: "Helbrecht really needs to find better recruiting planets..."

Sword-Brother Hachenkutt: "I'll help you, Canoness..."

Canoness Gonzaga: "Oh, my! Sword-Brother Hachenkutt! You're looking quite martial in your... starched-white... and, uhm, rather contemplative-looking surplice today..."

Sword-Brother Hachenkutt: "Well, I did just have my mustache groomed this morning..."

Canoness Gonzaga: "It suits you quite well... oh, right! Mission! Yes! Mission! Always missioning for the Emperor! Yes, right!"

And that's why Sisters of Battle and Black Templars will always be awkward friends in battle.

 PaperworkNinja wrote:
Because of exchanges like this:

snip

And that's why Sisters of Battle and Black Templars will always be awkward friends in battle.

That is of course heretical, but I will have to save a copy for my... private evidence archive, just in case.

 generalchaos34 wrote:
I've always wondered why the Templars and Sisters weren't super BFFs in the fluff, maybe the BT think they have cooties.

The Sisters believe the Templars have cooties. And by cooties, I mean progenoid glands, secondary heart, Leman glands and all that stuff that makes them kind of not humans.

Templar/Sisters relations have apparently improved now that Templars are more religious and the allies charts let them ally as Battle Brothers.

Spetulhu wrote:

 fox-light713 wrote:

SoB have their own razorback variant. It's called an Immolator

And it is IMO superior to the Razorback. Both can have the TL Heavy Bolters and Hflamers but it's when you reach TL Multimeltas that you really start talking. Ofc, it's the Outflanking Dominion Squad that makes it better.

ClockworkZion wrote:The Immolator used to be superior until they broke the Heavy Flamer version (can only move 6" and shoot) and nicked the fire point.

Immolator used to be superior until they took away its Fire Point...

Besides the 6++, is there any difference between an immolator and a razorback these days? Besides the TLMM; you can take a HB or HF razor.

 Nevelon wrote:
Besides the 6++, is there any difference between an immolator and a razorback these days? Besides the TLMM; you can take a HB or HF razor.

It can scout 12" or Outflank?

Okay, maybe that's not on ITS profile, but still....

 BlackTalos wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
Besides the 6++, is there any difference between an immolator and a razorback these days? Besides the TLMM; you can take a HB or HF razor.

It can scout 12" or Outflank?

Okay, maybe that's not on ITS profile, but still....

With assorted chapter tactics, marine razors can up to a number of shenanigans themselves. I was thinking more of a tank-to-tank comparison. Last time I looked at them, I remember them being identical, barring the name change. Upgrades of things like laud hailers notwithstanding.

Give it to them. Who cares? It's not that great anyway.

No. The Emperor declared that only Astartes may use Land Raiders. His proclamation has not been redacted. If the Sororitas used Land Raiders they'd be flaunting the word of the Emperor.

I definitely want the Custodes Grav-Rhino though

TheCustomLime wrote:No. The Emperor declared that only Astartes may use Land Raiders. His proclamation has not been redacted. If the Sororitas used Land Raiders they'd be flaunting the word of the Emperor.

Unit1126PLL wrote:IIRC There have been repeated mentions in Black Library books of Mechanicus Explorator teams with Land Raider command tanks. In fact, again if memory serves, the Mechanicus contingent with the Imperial Guard in one of the stories in the Planetkill compilation have a Land Raider.

The sisters might not be using the LRs as tanks, but simply conducting sanctification rituals for the forgeworlds. That take centuries. In warzones. But once they are done, they will turn the tanks over to the SM.

See? They aren’t flaunting any decrees. Just like they aren’t flaunting the men-at-arms one...