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It's a great show, dodgy animation, horrible CGI animals and the fire effects aside.

I gotta admit I'm a bit all at sea when it comes to Animu...

I loved Avatar: The Last Airbender and Oban Star Racers so guess I like anime with Western input, are there any more like these?

I think Castlevania was a western production, but I'm not sure.
I could have sworn that Warren Ellis or someone like that wrote the script.
Good show, btw. Needs season 2.

 Kroem wrote:
I gotta admit I'm a bit all at sea when it comes to Animu...

I loved Avatar: The Last Airbender and Oban Star Racers so guess I like anime with Western input, are there any more like these?

The (sadly) canceled Thundercats reboot was made by the same people as The Last Airbender.

Voltron is quite good and has multiple seasons under its belt. Dragon Prince is alright as well, though only a single short season so far.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I think Castlevania was a western production, but I'm not sure.
I could have sworn that Warren Ellis or someone like that wrote the script.
Good show, btw. Needs season 2.

Castlevania is a Netflix production and indeed with a script provided by Warren Ellis. There is supposed to be a second season coming some time.

 BrookM wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I think Castlevania was a western production, but I'm not sure.
I could have sworn that Warren Ellis or someone like that wrote the script.
Good show, btw. Needs season 2.

Castlevania is a Netflix production and indeed with a script provided by Warren Ellis. There is supposed to be a second season coming some time.

Wasn't Devil Man Crybaby also a Netflix show, except from a Japanese company?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I think Castlevania was a western production, but I'm not sure.
I could have sworn that Warren Ellis or someone like that wrote the script.
Good show, btw. Needs season 2.

Castlevania is a Netflix production and indeed with a script provided by Warren Ellis. There is supposed to be a second season coming some time.

Wasn't Devil Man Crybaby also a Netflix show, except from a Japanese company?

Indeed, I think most if not all of their Netflix anime content is being done overseas animation wise.

I've also checked info on the second season and it's coming.. TOMORROW!

 BrookM wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I think Castlevania was a western production, but I'm not sure.
I could have sworn that Warren Ellis or someone like that wrote the script.
Good show, btw. Needs season 2.

Castlevania is a Netflix production and indeed with a script provided by Warren Ellis. There is supposed to be a second season coming some time.

Wasn't Devil Man Crybaby also a Netflix show, except from a Japanese company?

Indeed, I think most if not all of their Netflix anime content is being done overseas animation wise.

I've also checked info on the second season and it's coming.. TOMORROW!

Oh cool, they actually are making a second season.

Ah nice, I did watch some episodes of the first series and it seemed cool... I had better finish it off I guess!

Kroem wrote:I gotta admit I'm a bit all at sea when it comes to Animu...

I loved Avatar: The Last Airbender and Oban Star Racers so guess I like anime with Western input, are there any more like these?

You could try Boku no Hero Academia/My Hero Academia. Not really wester input directly but the series is heavily inspired by western superhero comics and mythology but from a Japanese cultural perspective (if that makes sense). It's a really solid series. Season three has just ended and season four will start in spring 2019 so you don't need to rush watching it.

Castlevania has already been mentioned and it's really good although season one consists of only four episodes (I think season two is supposed to be longer).

My Hero is probably the first really worthwhile Shounen since the big 3 era

I love TinTin in it. He's great.

But yeah- MHA is well on its way to becoming another "Big Three" style hit.


The thing about Avatar and its successors (because both Dragon Prince and Voltron are being made by Avatar veterans) is that they're not so much Anime with Western influence, as much as they are Western cartoons with Anime influence. Basically the inverse of MHA in a way.

If you like that sort of story, though... Maybe One Piece, if you have the free time. It's another strongly character-driven series, where the story is less about what's happening, and more about how the characters are growing and changing and reacting to things. Maybe stuff like Full Metal Alchemist- another series with a definitive plotline. The thing about a lot of Anime is that they're set up as 'endless plots' so that they don't have to end if they turn into hits. Ones with long-term character development and actual overall plot resolution are relatively rare.

FMA Brotherhood is amazing if you haven't seen it.

Really, Anime and Western are going to become irrelevant terms more and more as the people who grew up watching both become inspired by each and everything just kind of coalesces into just being cartoons.

 AduroT wrote:
Really, Anime and Western are going to become irrelevant terms more and more as the people who grew up watching both become inspired by each and everything just kind of coalesces into just being cartoons.

How many of us grew up watching Pokemon and Digimon and thought it was "anime". Honestly at this stage Anime and Western are almost purely marketing terms and fan terms used to make it easier to talk about things in a casual sense.

 Overread wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
Really, Anime and Western are going to become irrelevant terms more and more as the people who grew up watching both become inspired by each and everything just kind of coalesces into just being cartoons.

How many of us grew up watching Pokemon and Digimon and thought it was "anime". Honestly at this stage Anime and Western are almost purely marketing terms and fan terms used to make it easier to talk about things in a casual sense.

But those shows are anime though?

Or, ARE they?







...they are.

 AduroT wrote:
Or, ARE they?







...they are.

Are they really?

Yes, yes they are.

 LunarSol wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
Or, ARE they?







...they are.

Are they really?

Yes, yes they are.

SHHH! Don't tell 4Kids!

To weigh in on the debate here, to me it comes down to what animation techniques are used and what story tropes are used, albeit secondary to where the show was made.

Is it a story about a group of 15 year olds with spikey hair killing god, standing around and having pan shots of them talking for 17 minutes and then 3 minutes of hyperanimated over 9000 fps fighting with explosions? If it was made in Japan, it's Anime. If it was made anywhere else, it is Anime-inspired animation.

Is it animated on 4s and Calarts? It's Western Animation.

It's all blurred anyway, since the first "Anime" such as Mighty Atom (Astroboy) and Princess Knight were very much inspired by Western Animation.

Also I recommend watching the Original Astroboy and Princess Knight shows. They still hold up pretty well IMHO.

Just to complicate matters a bit more also the French have been making some interesting inroads with very anime inspired series like Wakfu from Akama Studios or Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Cat Noir recently.

Quality animated media is slowly becoming a common thing outside of Japan in general now. Netflix with DreamWorks is making significant in roads with Voltron and How to Train your Dragon and then you have the occasional odd ball like Avatar the Last Airbender.

Interesting times we're living in.

I really Really want new Wakfu episodes...

@BaconCatBug- Yes, yes indeed. Mostly, I consider the differences to be primarily on overarching form, even more than animation methods. Honestly, I consider Anime more of a supergenre even- there's a lot of things you can point to and say "That's Anime", that many Japanese animations don't do, or that some American animations do.

And on the Astro Boy thing- are you talking about the original original, the one that's black-and-white? 'cause yea, it's pretty cool.

Anvildude wrote:
@BaconCatBug- Yes, yes indeed. Mostly, I consider the differences to be primarily on overarching form, even more than animation methods. Honestly, I consider Anime more of a supergenre even- there's a lot of things you can point to and say "That's Anime", that many Japanese animations don't do, or that some American animations do.

And on the Astro Boy thing- are you talking about the original original, the one that's black-and-white? 'cause yea, it's pretty cool.

Darn tootin' I am. It was named the 86th best animated series by IGN, which just proves you can't spell Ignorant without IGN. I know it's a big commitment but I highly recommend anyone who is interested in animation to watch it in its entirety.

Anvildude wrote:


If you like that sort of story, though... Maybe One Piece, if you have the free time. It's another strongly character-driven series, where the story is less about what's happening, and more about how the characters are growing and changing and reacting to things. Maybe stuff like Full Metal Alchemist- another series with a definitive plotline. The thing about a lot of Anime is that they're set up as 'endless plots' so that they don't have to end if they turn into hits. Ones with long-term character development and actual overall plot resolution are relatively rare.

One Piece? No way.... Watch Gintama. I find Gintama far more enjoyable than the strangeness that One Piece became.

 vonjankmon wrote:
Just to complicate matters a bit more also the French have been making some interesting inroads with very anime inspired series like Wakfu from Akama Studios or Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Cat Noir recently.

Quality animated media is slowly becoming a common thing outside of Japan in general now. Netflix with DreamWorks is making significant in roads with Voltron and How to Train your Dragon and then you have the occasional odd ball like Avatar the Last Airbender.

Interesting times we're living in.

True, the Frenchies made Oban and that was great. Sav! The World also recently announced they were working on a sequel/ spinoff!

France has a really strong comic scene as well and the artistic quality and styles far out strips many of the big DC/Marvel styles. So its no shock that animation has a strength there.

So i have been watching Goblin Slayer and yes i do like it. I admit hearing about the complaints made me only more curious and want to watch it more. The show is pretty good. Yeah it has some dark themes but if you don't mind dark shows it's not really big. We all play warhammer so i'm sure dark themes aren't really new to us. Shame GW has become more family friendly overall though.

Anyway i saw episode 4 just now and it's enjoyable. Goblin Slayer is definitely efficient at what he does. He definitely tends to be prepared that's for sure.

Oh and the memes for Goblin Slayer are Gold.

Oh yeah, French stuff! There's also Wakfu, Code Lyoko, maybe a couple others with strong Anime influence. France actually has a really strong animation scene.