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Sorry, the Lion was most bitter about Horus being Warmaster of maybe all the Primarchs. He always thought it should be him. Maybe it would have been if he had any kind of people skills whatsoever.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Sorry, the Lion was most bitter about Horus being Warmaster of maybe all the Primarchs.

Hahaha. No.

Only Horus Said that. And it was later said that the Lion even openly admits that he would of not made a great warmaster.

No he definitely wouldn't. Guillaman however, would be great at it

Full disclosure, I really hate the Lion. He's not even interesting, and I've never liked the Dark Angels. You're probably right about him being completely loyal and maybe Guilliman did have ulterior motives but I just can't bring myself to like the Lion.

 ImAGeek wrote:
No he definitely wouldn't. Guillaman however, would be great at it

Full disclosure, I really hate the Lion. He's not even interesting, and I've never liked the Dark Angels. You're probably right about him being completely loyal and maybe Guilliman did have ulterior motives but I just can't bring myself to like the Lion.

I like Gulliman but he always seemed too shifty.

But The Lion was never an adminstrator I can see why people don't like him particular.

how come everyone likes Sangunius? not complaining, I like him too.

 KaptinBadrukk wrote:
how come everyone likes Sangunius? not complaining, I like him too.

Because he is a guy with massive wings.

 KaptinBadrukk wrote:
how come everyone likes Sangunius? not complaining, I like him too.

They tried clicking on Perturabo, but missed

magnus.

The lion himself was perfectly loyal to the emporer, its his chapter that is borderline heretics lol

 theemporerprotectsnone wrote:
The lion himself was perfectly loyal to the emporer, its his chapter that is borderline heretics lol

borderline?

Every one like sanguinious bcus he was noble, loyal to a fault, bad ass warrior, had wings and was partly a rage monster vampire lol

Konrad curze. ultimate primarch. ok he had alot of flaws but didnt all of the primarchs


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and about the lion. there is a conspiracy about him and its from the cypher data slate. the lion who was master of lighting fast attacks was "held up" by a waarp storm. however according to the fallen the lion was waiting for aan outcome to the horus heresey to make his final dicision

 zinogre wrote:
Konrad curze. ultimate primarch. ok he had alot of flaws but didnt all of the primarchs


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and about the lion. there is a conspiracy about him and its from the cypher data slate. the lion who was master of lighting fast attacks was "held up" by a waarp storm. however according to the fallen the lion was waiting for aan outcome to the horus heresey to make his final dicision

You can't control the Warp, though.

 Wyzilla wrote:

 ChazSexington wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:
The Lion. Out of all the Primarchs, along with all the Legions, the Dark Angels and their Lord seem to be the most mature of all the Legions as to the material written on them, or at least have a story and drive to them that most Legions and Primarchs lack.

Plus unlike Curze, Angron, or Mortarion, the Lion knows that having a gakky childhood isn't an excuse to go on an insane krumpin' fest.

Mature? I always thought he came across as a moody teenager. Angron didn't just have a gakky childhood though - the Nails were beyond that.

Anyway, I voted for the misspelled Alpharius/Omegon. Even if they're portrayed with inconsistent personalities (individually and together), they have plans, even if they are currently only involved in schemes that involve abandoned amusement parks and avoiding Scooby Doo.

Well the Lion is probably Bipolar given his mood swings, but he doesn't start skinning and stringing civilians up from the rafters like Night Lords, butchering civilians for the sake of butchery like Angron, or butcher civilians for the lulz like Fulgrim. You still don't want to talk back to the guy or piss him off, but he's not insane like most of his kin.

Wait, so being bipolar is an excuse for moody behaviour, whilst being driven mad from visions of the future and having nails in your brain isn't?

 Asherian Command wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Oh the Lion said that?! Must be true...

Guillaman didn't betray anyone. He was attempting to start over in case Terra had fallen, bearing in mind he didn't know what was going on because of warp storms. He was setting up a contingency plan.

The Lion was not a traitor, Guillaman was making an empire of his own. Not just because he thought terra had fallen but because he really didn't care. He wanted to rule. He was jealous of Horus being warmaster.

That sounds like someone giving up and saying oh well. I'll do something that could be considered heresy anyway.

Gulliman was consolidating and looking to rebuild the empire because he thought it had fallen and didn't really know what was going on, no where does it suggest that he didn't care. He may have been jealous of Horus's title but he was still a very dutiful Primarch. If we want to talk of his arrogance then thats a different story altogether,,,,,

 Asherian Command wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Guillaman, Sanguinius, both perfectly sane, loyal and noble.

Gulliman was selfish and wanted to create his own empire.

Sanguinius was the true warmaster and deserved to be the true warmaster.

If he was warmaster. There would of been no heresy, humanity would of live and Lorgar would of been screwed.

The Lion is not an adminstrator, Sanguinius and Horus are.

I am surprised by how bad English people are at English..

 Reality-Torrent wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Guillaman, Sanguinius, both perfectly sane, loyal and noble.

Gulliman was selfish and wanted to create his own empire.

Sanguinius was the true warmaster and deserved to be the true warmaster.

If he was warmaster. There would of been no heresy, humanity would of live and Lorgar would of been screwed.

The Lion is not an adminstrator, Sanguinius and Horus are.

I am surprised by how bad English people are at English..

There's much much worse on the forum than that. I'd put Asherian Commands slightly bad English there down to quick typing or something. Unless you meant me..?

 Reality-Torrent wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Guillaman, Sanguinius, both perfectly sane, loyal and noble.

Gulliman was selfish and wanted to create his own empire.

Sanguinius was the true warmaster and deserved to be the true warmaster.

If he was warmaster. There would of been no heresy, humanity would of live and Lorgar would of been screwed.

The Lion is not an adminstrator, Sanguinius and Horus are.

I am surprised by how bad English people are at English..

I am facing with similar problem because tiny keyboard issue.

There's much much worse on the forum than that. I'd put Asherian Commands slightly bad English there down to quick typing or something. Unless you meant me..?

Mostly I type way too fast for my own good. That sometimes my mind is trying to catch up but my fingers are moving too fast for me to actually make a comprehensible sentence.

 Reality-Torrent wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Guillaman, Sanguinius, both perfectly sane, loyal and noble.

Gulliman was selfish and wanted to create his own empire.

Sanguinius was the true warmaster and deserved to be the true warmaster.

If he was warmaster. There would of been no heresy, humanity would of live and Lorgar would of been screwed.

The Lion is not an adminstrator, Sanguinius and Horus are.

I am surprised by how bad English people are at English..

Someone from Illinois, USA is English...?

 Asherian Command wrote:

There's much much worse on the forum than that. I'd put Asherian Commands slightly bad English there down to quick typing or something. Unless you meant me..?

Mostly I type way too fast for my own good. That sometimes my mind is trying to catch up but my fingers are moving too fast for me to actually make a comprehensible sentence.

Yeah I thought so. I'd be the same if not for autocorrect on iPad/iPhone. I've got your back man

I think I need to switch my favorite lol, sang is getting to much love

”Guilliman is totally a traitor” said no sane person ever.

Anyway, I voted for Guilliman, with pre-corrupted Horus being the second favorite of mine.

 ChazSexington wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 ChazSexington wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:
The Lion. Out of all the Primarchs, along with all the Legions, the Dark Angels and their Lord seem to be the most mature of all the Legions as to the material written on them, or at least have a story and drive to them that most Legions and Primarchs lack.

Plus unlike Curze, Angron, or Mortarion, the Lion knows that having a gakky childhood isn't an excuse to go on an insane krumpin' fest.

Mature? I always thought he came across as a moody teenager. Angron didn't just have a gakky childhood though - the Nails were beyond that.

Anyway, I voted for the misspelled Alpharius/Omegon. Even if they're portrayed with inconsistent personalities (individually and together), they have plans, even if they are currently only involved in schemes that involve abandoned amusement parks and avoiding Scooby Doo.

Well the Lion is probably Bipolar given his mood swings, but he doesn't start skinning and stringing civilians up from the rafters like Night Lords, butchering civilians for the sake of butchery like Angron, or butcher civilians for the lulz like Fulgrim. You still don't want to talk back to the guy or piss him off, but he's not insane like most of his kin.

Wait, so being bipolar is an excuse for moody behaviour, whilst being driven mad from visions of the future and having nails in your brain isn't?

He wasn't really bi-polar, but more withdrawn and sometimes quick to anger. That's just how he was. I also think Angron had good reasons for going fully nuts. Hell, they should have just called him Angry Primarch.


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 theemporerprotectsnone wrote:
The lion himself was perfectly loyal to the emporer, its his chapter that is borderline heretics lol

How? His best friend and second in command got tainted by the warp, manipulated everyone on Caliban, and turned them on the rest of the Chapter. I wouldn't say it's the chapter that are heretics, I think it was mainly Lion El's second in command.

The half of the legion left at Caliban was corrupted by Nurgle through the ambition of Luthor if memory serves.

BTW favorite Primarch is Lemann Russ or Rogal Dorn.

 Beaviz81 wrote:
The half of the legion left at Caliban was corrupted by Nurgle through the ambition of Luthor if memory serves.

BTW favorite Primarch is Lemann Russ or Rogal Dorn.

Nope..

Fateweaver corrupted them (Tzeench)

Not nurgle. Nurgle's not that cunning.

I voted for the lion,
but maybe the lion was the one corrupted by chaos and Luther was completely loyal to the emperor, and the fallen are the good guys, as well as the now loyal dark angels.

 Redcruisair wrote:
”Guilliman is totally a traitor” said no sane person ever.

Anyway, I voted for Guilliman, with pre-corrupted Horus being the second favorite of mine.

Funny because if Guilliman died, the Ultramarines would of gone to terra and the emperor would still be alive.

I voted for the lion,
but maybe the lion was the one corrupted by chaos and Luther was completely loyal to the emperor, and the fallen are the good guys, as well as the now loyal dark angels.

Umm. No. That has been debunked.

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:
The half of the legion left at Caliban was corrupted by Nurgle through the ambition of Luthor if memory serves.

BTW favorite Primarch is Lemann Russ or Rogal Dorn.

Nope..

Fateweaver corrupted them (Tzeench)

Not nurgle. Nurgle's not that cunning.

Cite when and where, and give me the link in private.

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Redcruisair wrote:
”Guilliman is totally a traitor” said no sane person ever.

Anyway, I voted for Guilliman, with pre-corrupted Horus being the second favorite of mine.

Funny because if Guilliman died, the Ultramarines would of gone to terra and the emperor would still be alive.

I voted for the lion,
but maybe the lion was the one corrupted by chaos and Luther was completely loyal to the emperor, and the fallen are the good guys, as well as the now loyal dark angels.

Umm. No. That has been debunked.

Dark Angel propaganda.

Both Rowboat Girlyman and Lion El'Waitandsee were conveniently absent from Terra.