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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 22:16:42
Subject: Stims on riptides
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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I'm sure this is a simple answer. But can you take FNP against wounds from Nova-charging?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 22:24:22
Subject: Re:Stims on riptides
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 22:44:57
Subject: Stims on riptides
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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Even though it says "no saves of any kind"?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 22:47:10
Subject: Re:Stims on riptides
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Been Around the Block
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Feel No Pain isn't a save. It's a last chance to negate, yes, but not technically a save; that's probably one reason why it costs more for tides
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 01:10:39
Subject: Stims on riptides
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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For an example of when FNP isn't allowed, look at the rules for the R'Varna from forgeworld. It explicitly denies FNP saves from failed nova charges.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 04:24:10
Subject: Stims on riptides
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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Mulletdude wrote:For an example of when FNP isn't allowed, look at the rules for the R'Varna from forgeworld. It explicitly denies FNP saves from failed nova charges.
No it doesn't, it reads exactly like a Riptide's Nova Reactor, "(no saves of any kind may be taken)". I think you got ahold of a fan made version.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 05:34:27
Subject: Stims on riptides
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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Nilok wrote: Mulletdude wrote:For an example of when FNP isn't allowed, look at the rules for the R'Varna from forgeworld. It explicitly denies FNP saves from failed nova charges.
No it doesn't, it reads exactly like a Riptide's Nova Reactor, "(no saves of any kind may be taken)". I think you got ahold of a fan made version.
I think you need to actually read the document instead of quoting what you think is correct.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/R/Rvarna15-1-2014.pdf
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 06:11:46
Subject: Stims on riptides
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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Sorry, but Forge World sometimes forgets to remove their old rules so things stop pointing to it.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/R/Rvarna.pdf
Strange that the Y'vahra can still take FNP for Nova. Might be a balance argument inside Forge World.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 10:17:26
Subject: Stims on riptides
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Fireknife Shas'el
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THanks for sharing with us the new version of those rules, Nilok. Did FW tellus anytime when they updated those rules?
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Unit1126PLL wrote:"FW is unbalanced and going to ruin tournaments."
"Name one where it did that."
"IT JUST DOES OKAY!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 10:34:57
Subject: Stims on riptides
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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Mulletdude actually posted the most current rules, the problem I was showing is that Forge World never updated the link or removed it so my bookmarks are out of date, thus the reason I quoted the wrong rules.
Last time I talked to Forge World, they said they were in the process of updating the rules to 7e and would be out soon( tm).
Nilok wrote:With the new rules of the Y'vahra excluding it from taking Farsight Enclaves special systems, does that mean both the XV107 R'varna and XV109 Y'vahra can be taken with the Farsight Enclaves now?
Forge World wrote:"Hi [Nilok]. There will be an official 7th edition update coming soon. In the short term it's best to agree with your opponents what you can take in your army. Of course with unbound there's nothing stopping you having any of your favourite models in your collection really. Hopefully we will have an official answer for you soon."
However, that was back in October 2014, so I have no idea when they are updating the rules to download, or even releasing an Imperial Armour 3 Third Edition.
[Edited with original email]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 10:38:58
Subject: Stims on riptides
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Confessor Of Sins
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Wow, that is a bit of a tone-down for the Rvarna :p
Guess it needed it...
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DA:80-S+G+M+B++I-Pw40k01++D+++A+++WD100R++T(T)DM+
Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage. Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/22 02:33:06
Subject: Stims on riptides
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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BlackTalos wrote:
Wow, that is a bit of a tone-down for the Rvarna :p
Guess it needed it...
It really needed the tone down in 6th ed when the buffcommander could guarantee it twin linked and ignore cover with tank/monster hunter. That combined with ap3 means any 3+ save MC was just dead. Now that the buffcommander cannot join it, it may not need such a harsh nerf as there will be no way to give it monster/tank hunter and the only cover ignoring it will do is from marker lights (and only on the original target with the new rules for marker lights).
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