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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I stand corrected, I never should have bad mouthed the columns...

Heck now I want some.

Me too, actually...

But... I still wonder if demand for column golems is greater than say, demand for rank and file goblins?

 adamsouza wrote:
Until midnight, 1/31, Miinatures Market has the Dark Heaven Legends: Brood Dragon
Regular Price: $59.99
SPECIAL PRICE: $25.00

Ha! I wouldn't give you $2.50 for it. It makes Trish Carden's dragons look good.

 Polonius wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I stand corrected, I never should have bad mouthed the columns...

Heck now I want some.

Me too, actually...

But... I still wonder if demand for column golems is greater than say, demand for rank and file goblins?

Probably a lot less. They do have 3 different sculpts of D&D goblins and 9 different sculpts of Pathfinder goblins though.


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 Vermis wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
Until midnight, 1/31, Miinatures Market has the Dark Heaven Legends: Brood Dragon
Regular Price: $59.99
SPECIAL PRICE: $25.00

Ha! I wouldn't give you $2.50 for it. It makes Trish Carden's dragons look good.

Unfortunate choice of pictures for the catalog that...granted, it is a bit on the goofy side with the feet - though that picture makes it look much worse:

 Sean_OBrien wrote:

 Polonius wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I stand corrected, I never should have bad mouthed the columns...

Heck now I want some.

Me too, actually...

But... I still wonder if demand for column golems is greater than say, demand for rank and file goblins?

Probably a lot less. They do have 3 different sculpts of D&D goblins and 9 different sculpts of Pathfinder goblins though.

Yeah, while I havne't painted them up, I liked the gobbos in the first kickstarter. They're very much RPG/skirmish goblins.

If you sold packs of, say, four different sculpts of archers, four sculpts of spears, and maybe a pack of command, I know I'd be buying them for goblin hordes.

That's what surpises me. I know that RPGS is a way bigger market than mass combat, but small, cheap, simple models like gobbos seem like a good way tot test those waters.

One last Force Five pic

I don't know about the other thing, but dat photoz.... take an exalt as it's hilarious

I even et all of the references/characters for once!

 Polonius wrote:

 Sean_OBrien wrote:

 Polonius wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I stand corrected, I never should have bad mouthed the columns...

Heck now I want some.

Me too, actually...

But... I still wonder if demand for column golems is greater than say, demand for rank and file goblins?

Probably a lot less. They do have 3 different sculpts of D&D goblins and 9 different sculpts of Pathfinder goblins though.

Yeah, while I havne't painted them up, I liked the gobbos in the first kickstarter. They're very much RPG/skirmish goblins.

If you sold packs of, say, four different sculpts of archers, four sculpts of spears, and maybe a pack of command, I know I'd be buying them for goblin hordes.

That's what surpises me. I know that RPGS is a way bigger market than mass combat, but small, cheap, simple models like gobbos seem like a good way tot test those waters.

I agree entirely, and there tends to be a little split within Reaper regarding it (some of it being one hand, other hand internal conflict too...).

The Pughs are wargamers. That is what they like, that is why Reaper has had various wargames pretty much from the get go. They really want to do plastic wargame figures. However, they are also accountants and have decades of sales data that tells them that their current customer base are RPG players. Various other Reaper Peeps fall into one camp or the other. It is a bit of an investment to go ahead and bet on a wargame product for them, but it is something that they have considered doing a rollout for grunts from their Warlord game. Personally, I think it would do quite well - though, I can understand the apprehension that might have. As they build sales data from the Bones releases though - I think we will see some more grunt packs with larger numbers of sculpts sooner rather than later.

If you look at their top 50 list for Bones - it does look to have a lot of overlap with what a wargamer might purchase:

http://www.reapermini.com/RetailSupport/RackContents/00773

Granted, there are still a lot of RPG figures in there too...a year or so of additional sales data with the expanded offerings from this years KS will be telling though.

Thanks for the really informative answer! I guess that makes sense, especially as wargaming plastics are becoming a more crowded market.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

What I don't get is why they're doing so many niche characters and monsters in bones.
Sure they'll sell plenty of generic crossbow guy and shipping crate

but Caryatid Columns? I mean talk about a deep cut from the Fiend Folio...



But hey there's the one with millions of Kickstarter dollars and I'm happy to make $20 from selling on ebay so they must know something...

I don't know what Caryatid Columns are (or care, since I'm not a D&D player) but those look like cheap scenic statues for scenery to me, and if they're cheap enough I'd potentially buy a couple of packs to knock up quickly and glue to buildings.

Consider those two models shown to be a before and after. It's kind of related to a stone golem. They pretend to be columns supporting whatever and at some trigger they come to life and hack you up.

Were those in expansion 2 from the kickstarter? I may not have any of them coming in.

 Sean_OBrien wrote:


I agree entirely, and there tends to be a little split within Reaper regarding it (some of it being one hand, other hand internal conflict too...).

The Pughs are wargamers. That is what they like, that is why Reaper has had various wargames pretty much from the get go. They really want to do plastic wargame figures. However, they are also accountants and have decades of sales data that tells them that their current customer base are RPG players. Various other Reaper Peeps fall into one camp or the other. It is a bit of an investment to go ahead and bet on a wargame product for them, but it is something that they have considered doing a rollout for grunts from their Warlord game. Personally, I think it would do quite well - though, I can understand the apprehension that might have. As they build sales data from the Bones releases though - I think we will see some more grunt packs with larger numbers of sculpts sooner rather than later.

If you look at their top 50 list for Bones - it does look to have a lot of overlap with what a wargamer might purchase:

http://www.reapermini.com/RetailSupport/RackContents/00773

Granted, there are still a lot of RPG figures in there too...a year or so of additional sales data with the expanded offerings from this years KS will be telling though.

Very informative link and well, it seems I was wrong. I would have figured the top 50 would include tons of generic skeletons, zombies, orcs etc but other than the goblins and few monsters it's all characters.

I guess quality interesting ones win out over bulk.

Plus as others mentioned there's still a lot of pre painted D&D figures out there.

 GrimDork wrote:
Were those in expansion 2 from the kickstarter? I may not have any of them coming in.

Yes, Expansion set #2: https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/237/444/7d45ed7ba7c33dc3f42d83c37b3b909c_large.jpg?1382694490

Reaper offers quite a few "unusual" sculpts, so the 'columns don't really stand out as being unusual for me. Sure, generic crossbowmen will sell more figures -- except that other companies sell generic crossbowmen, too.

Thanks for that Well I had dumped a bunch of funds to get the dragons don't share multiple times to keep the ruins for terrain and sell off the heroes and dragons... but then I scrapped that idea, just got one, and picked up 2x expansion 3's. The saucers will be stolen by my Martians.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Sean_OBrien wrote:


I agree entirely, and there tends to be a little split within Reaper regarding it (some of it being one hand, other hand internal conflict too...).

The Pughs are wargamers. That is what they like, that is why Reaper has had various wargames pretty much from the get go. They really want to do plastic wargame figures. However, they are also accountants and have decades of sales data that tells them that their current customer base are RPG players. Various other Reaper Peeps fall into one camp or the other. It is a bit of an investment to go ahead and bet on a wargame product for them, but it is something that they have considered doing a rollout for grunts from their Warlord game. Personally, I think it would do quite well - though, I can understand the apprehension that might have. As they build sales data from the Bones releases though - I think we will see some more grunt packs with larger numbers of sculpts sooner rather than later.

If you look at their top 50 list for Bones - it does look to have a lot of overlap with what a wargamer might purchase:

http://www.reapermini.com/RetailSupport/RackContents/00773

Granted, there are still a lot of RPG figures in there too...a year or so of additional sales data with the expanded offerings from this years KS will be telling though.

Very informative link and well, it seems I was wrong. I would have figured the top 50 would include tons of generic skeletons, zombies, orcs etc but other than the goblins and few monsters it's all characters.

I guess quality interesting ones win out over bulk.

Plus as others mentioned there's still a lot of pre painted D&D figures out there.

I think part of it is if you wanted a horde of zombies or orcs or skeletons there are other places to go than reaper.

He's right. The Reaper zombies, skeletons, zombies, etc.. don't come in enough variety to entice you to field hordes of them.

You would be better off buying a box of Mantic Figures for cheap bulk.

Most exaulted threat on Dakka ATM

Anyway as promised some last previews from their site.

First off Reaper is expanding their line of Gargantuan Creatures for 6mm games such as Robotech Tactics, Epic and Battletech.




You'll be able to field these towering monsters in the game of your choice where they will crush low buildings and give even the largest mecha pause.

They can also serve as normal critters for 28mm games.

Or really teeny, tiny ones for LARPs.



Reaper is also jumping in with a flying Arch Lich who is totally not Nagash and I don't know why anyone even thinks he is.




Reaper's tradition of releasing minis you never knew you wanted continues with a small line of Victorian civilians/adventurers/serial killers/victims suitable for all sorts of roles.



Per some of our discussions earlier it's interesting that Reaper apparently thinks they've got a market for metal dragons even with a dozen or so on Bones.

And that is a nice dragon.




As I mentioned earlier Bobby Jackson has some new ogres on the way. They're good. Dunno if they're $20 of good. But they are good.



OK, look, I know.

It's a green stuff blanket.

A flying green stuff blanket.

But that thing is still coming home with me to join my collection of Reaper brand floating green stuff blankets.



Y'know I've looked at her and thought and so far all I've got is 'this miniature will get a lot of fans' and really that's barely worth the trouble of typing out. Anyone got anything better?



Sean Connery from Highlander?
Fantasy Qui-Gon Jinn from Star Wars?
Dunno but that's really an amazing job on his face.
the dress ain't too bad either.
Gotta love a man so secure in his sexuality he thinks nothing of wearing an ankle length gown into battle.

And finally...



It might just be the paint job but darn I want to take that nutter home.

Kid Kyoto isn't a fan of the fan lady? I'm blown away!

That dragon... lands on the giant stump thing, goes "Sup", proceeds to dragon-roar and terrify the party before roasting and eating them. Neat model.

I dunno, that lady might have her fans, but I think she is just a blow hard when it comes down to it.


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Also, I totally want her and the victorians.

Is it weird that I'm most excited about the animals? Hopefully they do more variations of the farm ones.

I'm making a medieval farm right now and I need all the animals I can get my hands on. So far, nothing is appealing to my tastes in terms of sculpt. Most miniature farm animals out there for historicals look a bit too goofy and unrealistic for my taste. The Pegasus animals look good, but i don't know if the fit the 28mm scale. These however, look damn fine.

 heartserenade wrote:
Is it weird that I'm most excited about the animals?

Uhhhh, yes...yes, it is...

In most civilised countries, that's actually a very serious offence!!! It's called "best..."...oh, wait...

You mean you're interested in purchasing these miniatures?!

That's al-right then! Carry on!

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:




Reaper is also jumping in with a flying Arch Lich who is totally not Nagash and I don't know why anyone even thinks he is.

That is exactly what GW would like you to think...

Reaper has actually had that sculpt for awhile now. When they were building their Warlord armies, Kevin Submitted his...Julie submitted hers:



They went with Julie's because it fit better on the base size they had chosen for the game. Kevin's definitely is more badass...but Reaper didn't want to have to invent 32mm bases just to get it on the table. So, Nagash is the not-Moandain.

Up till now I hadn't realized that I needed a herd of 28mm goats. Thankyou for bringing it to my attention

I actually need sheep. With variations. Wish they did sheep.

Actually if I was mad, and a scientist, I would create a shrinking ray that turned things into tiny 28mm plastic replicas of themselves and then I would take over the world! Mooohahaha.

 weetyskemian44 wrote:
Up till now I hadn't realized that I needed a herd of 28mm goats. Thankyou for bringing it to my attention

It is but one step on the path to true enlightenment...

 heartserenade wrote:
I actually need sheep. With variations. Wish they did sheep.

I need just the goats here. Because damnit, I have a medical need for the Dwarven Cavalry from Hobbit 3, and these might be the best way to go!

 Shandara wrote:

 weetyskemian44 wrote:
Up till now I hadn't realized that I needed a herd of 28mm goats. Thankyou for bringing it to my attention

It is but one step on the path to true enlightenment...

Not to mention the frat house initiation.

I will happily add those ogres into the ranks of my ogre kingdom army when I get around to them.

I always like reaper stuff I have plenty at home for RPG's and have used many for conversions. Not a fan of the PVC cast, but thier metal is top notch.

Joking aside, that's some bloody fine livestock. They actually look like what they're supposed to represent, which as HeartSerenade says is rare enough in 28mm animals that aren't horses. (and even then some horses can look a bit... mutatey)

And I'd like it if they produced a few sheep too.
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That's another Nagash that's better than Nagash. Ogres are pretty good too.

Given that I'm in the middle of a round of commissions, sculpting Victorianised (is that a word?) heroes and villains, I think I know a bunch of guys who might be interested in a few civilians.

And is that another Julie Guthrie dragon? Reaper can make it in PVC or white metal or platinum or the ear wax from rare Himalayan Takins if they want, as long as it means Julie Guthrie is sculpting new dragons...