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Crimson slaughter
HQ
Nurgle Biker Lord
-Daemon Heart
-Sigil
-Slaughter Horns
-Blade of Relentless
-PF
-Blight Grens

Be'lakor

Troop
Cultists x 10
Cultists x 10
Cultists x 10

FA
Heldrake
-Baleflamer
Chaos Bikers x9
Flamer x2
Champion-Power axe

Black Legion
HQ

DP Nurgle
-Wings
-Mst LVL 3
-PA
-SF
-Spineshiver Blade
-Skull of Ker'ngar

Nurgle Sorcerer
- Mst LVL 3
-FS
-Sigil
-Bike
-SF
-Blight Grens
-MB

Troops
Cultists x 10
Cultists x 10


My plan is to let the Sorcerer roll on Telepathy and try and get shrouded for 2+ jink saves with bike squad let Nurgle DP roll on Bio and let Bel'akor do his thing. The DP,bike unit , and Bel'akor will deploy middle and advance together up field while as many cultist as possible stay in reserve and the Heldrake will hopefully come in turn 2 and burn things to death. I feel like this list may be a glass cannon as I have not field tested it yet and with only 9 Mst Lvl's feel like it could be hurt in the psy phase. Thanks in advance for all the advice.

It feels like you've put a lot of points I to relics, which has diluted some substance.

The blade of the relentless isn't a specialist weapon, so you are losing an attack taking it with a power fist.


The bikes need the mark of nurgle
5 units of cultists seems wastefull, you should be able to save points for good stuff and knock it down to 4,.

Or split

I don't think you can take 2 primary detachments from two different supplements.

If you can, try replacing some cultists with something better (like a cheap Hell blade from IA:13 for excellent anti-air (although they are a bit weak on the defence, use Be'lakor to make it invisible if possible to avoid interceptor fire, or maybe even bring in be'lakor from reserves to soak it up) apart from that weakness, they are the best dogfighter and anti-air CSM has)

Plus, they are very good at murdering tanks (if behind them, which as flyers they can do more easily than other tanks). It could help your list, as you currently have no anti- tank except for krak grenades and Daemon Princes. Be'lakor can't do everything you know?

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Plus, you can't take 2 relics on a DP: each one replaces one weapon unless specified, and I don't believe that it is for the Skull (see this thread):

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/562929.page

anyway, I'd always give my DPs a mace, because it lets the DP kill MCs and Hordes easily with cursed and fleshbane, and your army could do with another solution to hordes than flamers

 Talon of Anathrax wrote:
I don't think you can take 2 primary detachments from two different supplements.

Sure you can. What you can't do is take the different supplements as an allied detachment if the same faction is declared as primary.

The 2 relics on the DP I don't belive Skull is a weapon its just a artifact that gives you AW & EW so after reviewing the thread you posted unless I have miss read I think it is legit to take both. Like the hell blade idea will look into that. Thanks!


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My fault for leaving the mark of Nurgle out on the bikes have in my list on Battle scribe just forgot to list it. Would you drop the Blade for a Lgt Claw ? Or what would you suggest ?

Dixiekaman wrote:
The 2 relics on the DP I don't belive Skull is a weapon its just a artifact that gives you AW & EW so after reviewing the thread you posted unless I have miss read I think it is legit to take both. Like the hell blade idea will look into that. Thanks!


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My fault for leaving the mark of Nurgle out on the bikes have in my list on Battle scribe just forgot to list it. Would you drop the Blade for a Lgt Claw ? Or what would you suggest ?

Yeah, I'd drop the blade for a claw.
I'd also think of giving a boon of mutation to some of those princes, if you're feeling lucky. Ever had a princes with a 2+ rerollable armor save, or T9 with Iron Arm?
I already have, and trust me it makes those times when you wasted 10pts worth it
I'd also try the sorcerer on Biomancy, hoping for one of the first 5 powers. He won't always buff his squad that much, but I usually prefer my HQs as killers. Anyway, Be'lakor can give shrouded as he has all of telepathy.

Did you ever think of getting some more Warp Charges? You'll run out very fast with Be'lakor + ML 3 Prince and Sorcerer.

Otherwise, try replacing the guns on the bike with the BBoS, and giving the prince a Black Mace. I know it would make you abandon the black legion supplement, but I really think that they're much better. Just the mace can already let you easily murder hordes and MCs, especially with Be'Lakor buffing you. If you're trying for fluff (although why you'd mix with Crimson Slaughter in a fluffy list puzzles me), ignore this last point. If you're trying to be competitive (and I think that this list is doing just that), don't!

After looking over both you gentlemans points I have made a few adjustments,


HQ
Be'lakor

Nurgle biker Lord
-DH
-Sigil
-PF
-Lgt Claws
-Slaughters Horns

Troops
CCS x 10
CCS x 10

FA
Hell blade w/ TL HFauto cans.
Nurgle bikers
- 2 flamers
ABCH - ccw and pistol

CSM
DP
-Mace
-Wings
- PA
-Mst LVL 3
-SF
-GoM

Nurgle Sorcerer
-bike
-FS
-Sigil
-SF

Troops
CCSx10
CCSx10

FA
Heldrake -Baleflamer

Good points from everyone I really appreciate it. I think the flyer will def make this list exceedingly more versatile, and I'm going to try the boon thing if it pays off great if not I'll get to roll on boons again (if I remember lol) as soon as I get my first challenge outta the way.

I'm not sure that DPs have the champion of Choas rule. They can take boons at the start, but that's it.

Quite right! Thanks again.

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Thanks !