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9% on Rotten Tomatoes as of this morning.

 Frazzled wrote:

Ouze wrote:
Whatever happens, Doctor Doom is one of the greatest villains ever. Bro punkd the Beyonder.

If you only saw movies/TV stuff one would have no idea of what you are talking about.

I know man... I know.

Ghost Rider has the same problem. One of the most powerful characters in the Marvel Universe, with some of the best limited series ever, and all most people know of him is the two godawful movies.


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 Alpharius wrote:
A Bitter and Disappointed (again) Fantastic Four Fan

I'm sorry that this is the way it looks like it is. :/

No kidding.

Still, I guess we'll always have (most of) the comics...

Down to 8% as of now. This may actually qualify as the worst marvel movie made to date. I do feel bad for everyone who got their hopes up...this movie really took the piss. Still hoping we get a Marvel studios version soon. I pray to God Fox doesn't make a sequel.

All the previous FF movies were rated higher, as well as the general consensus "stinkers" that were daredevil, Elektra, wolverine origins and X3. Ouch. This IS the worst marvel movie yet. Wait, let me check Howard the Duck.

Yup. HtD got a 14%. This is the worst yet. Sorry Alph.

I liked Howard the Duck.

 kronk wrote:
I liked Howard the Duck.

I did too. But the general opinion was that it stunk. I also liked the Evans/Alba FF movies. I thought they were fine: the actors NAILED the roles they were cast for. Well, except Alba. She was a bit OTT-Sue is usually calmer. But the Johnny/Ben interactions were flawless. I'm sure if I went back and rewatched I could pick out plenty of issues. But all minor stuff. I can forgive a crap story if the characters are at least believable. And visuals...imagine if we had Chicklis in this new Thing costume/CGI thing. That's the only thing I feel it really fell short on the visuals with.

So its lowest I saw was 7%, but its back up around 11%

WrentheFaceless wrote:
So its lowest I saw was 7%, but its back up around 11%

Mob mentality, maybe? "Let's get this one to 5%! Huzzah!"

I won't watch it, but is it really a 10%?

http://www.tor.com/2015/08/06/fantastic-four-movie-review/

and

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/review-fantastic-four-is-super-only-in-its-mediocrity

So, a movie with some good parts and a lot of mediocre parts = an overall mediocre movie.

A 'what could have been' - again!

Its unfortunate, though the most interesting part of the FF to me is not the FF themselves, but their supporting cast.

 kronk wrote:

WrentheFaceless wrote:
So its lowest I saw was 7%, but its back up around 11%

Mob mentality, maybe? "Let's get this one to 5%! Huzzah!"

I won't watch it, but is it really a 10%?

Poetic justice would be getting it to 4%

At first I was not very enthused for this Movie after seeing a poster. I'm sorry but Johnny Storm just looked like unnecessary tokenism and it just seemed like a bad sign. Then I saw the trailer...and it got my hope up a bit. It looked like maybe they might surprise everyone. But now Rotten Tomatoes has the film at 10%....I don't agree with Rotten Tomatoes 100% of the time but ya....90% chance this movie is bad. :(

Most reviews seem to be saying that a lot of what is good and fun about the FF, and superhero movies in general, just isn't in the movie.

Apparently 'grim and gritty' got all over everything here and ended up resulting in...boring.

Because, at the end of the day, the Fantastic Four are NOT all about grim and gritty.

Oh well!

I mean this movie was mediocre and bad, but I don't think it's 10% bad,

I at least think it was marginally better than the previous 2 FF movies. Then again I haven't watch those since they came out in cinemas, so perhaps I'm just not remembering the redeeming parts of those movies.

I think I'm gonna watch the first of the two best FF movies tonight. You know, the first one that featured Captain America as one of the FF. The obnoxious one. Johnny, I think his name was. Where the team feels like a family. Not an abomination.


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Currently watching the Evans/Alba/Chicklas/Iain movie. Gotten to the point they return to the Baxter building. It still has the heart of the FF comics, and has EVERYTHING the new one is said to lack. Reeds science talk. Johnny's arrogance and childish delight at his (mis)fortune, the family ties, reasons for Doom hating Reed and eventually the rest of the team...only issue I've seen so far is the long lasting antagonism of the lost love story between Reed and Sue. That's about it.

Why did everyone hate the 2000 version so much?!

I actually didn't mind the second one. They made Silver Surfer pretty cool.

When I want to watch a good FF film I watch the Incredibles.

DarthDiggler wrote:
When I want to watch a good FF film I watch the Incredibles.

True!


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 Alpharius wrote:
Most reviews seem to be saying that a lot of what is good and fun about the FF, and superhero movies in general, just isn't in the movie.

Apparently 'grim and gritty' got all over everything here and ended up resulting in...boring.

Because, at the end of the day, the Fantastic Four are NOT all about grim and gritty.

Oh well!

Ya, the FF don't need a big dose of GrimDark!

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I actually didn't mind the second one. They made Silver Surfer pretty cool.

The 2nd FF movie was pretty good - until Galactus showed up in 'cloud form' only!

 Alpharius wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I actually didn't mind the second one. They made Silver Surfer pretty cool.

The 2nd FF movie was pretty good - until Galactus showed up in 'cloud form' only!

You mean Ultimate Galactus? They pulled him straight from the Ultimate comic line. The movies together were a mashup of regular FF and Ultimate FF. Basically, the team/family was regular comics, villains were more out of the Ultimate lineup. The cloud form of Galactus and Doom's metal body instead of a suit of armor are straight out of Ultimate FF. It's not the version of Galactus I wanted...but it's accurate. In an alternate version.

 Alpharius wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
I actually didn't mind the second one. They made Silver Surfer pretty cool.

The 2nd FF movie was pretty good - until Galactus showed up in 'cloud form' only!

Actually I don't have a problem with that. Although we are used to him...he's pretty silly looking. I don't think a giant man in purple tights would have gone over well in movie form.

"Accurate" for the Ultimate FF - but not the FF in..FF2.

It wouldn't have been hard at all to just have the 'classic' Galactus in silhouette in the cloud, and it would have played a lot better.

Especially when the Surfer went off to confront...the cloud.

That's were FF2 fell down for me - it took too much of the dumb from Ultimate FF when they were way more 'classically' aligned.

 Alpharius wrote:
It wouldn't have been hard at all to just have the 'classic' Galactus in silhouette in the cloud, and it would have played a lot better.

At one point they show the helmet in silhouette inside the cloud when Surfer is getting closer to the core.

I don't remember that... You sure it happened?

 Alpharius wrote:
I don't remember that... You sure it happened?

I even found a pic of it:

I saw this last night. I posted my thoughts on Facebook immediately after getting home, which ran as follows:

"Fantastic Four is a most odd movie. It wasn't bad; it didn't insult me with its stupid writing. The main characters were well written and acted. It just wasn't a complete movie. They forgot to add the third act, where, you know, stuff happens that makes you feel excited. The feeling that I had upon leaving the movie theatre was a kind of dull surprise, a boredom that wasn't quite acute enough to turn into anger. For a movie with four superheroes in it, it seemed determined to avoid exciting action sequences and instead pretend to be some kind of science fiction horror effort, but without any real scares. The main bad guy has about five minutes of screen time, and that consists of two conversations and a single fight scene with the heroes, to whom he barely spoke. But this movie had enough well acted and entertaining moments to hold my early interest... until slowly I realised that there was no actual plot, just a bunch of well-acted scenes playing out until an abrupt ending.

Very odd. Most confusing film I've seen for a while. It kind of reminds me of an episode of Star Trek."

 Ahtman wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I don't remember that... You sure it happened?

I even found a pic of it:

IF that is real and not some photoshopped fan wish-fulfillment - I wonder how much actual screen time that image got!

Not much. When the Surfer goes into the core of the storm and tells Galactus he doesn't want to do this anymore they show that briefly, but it isn't for very long.

Alpharius was asleep at that point.

DarthDiggler wrote:
When I want to watch a good FF film I watch the Incredibles.

NOW thats true. I'd love to see a new one of those or Monsters vs. Aliens. May have to rewatch MvA this weekend, with some nice SoCo on the rocks and popcorn.

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Alpharius was asleep at that point.

Ha!

I love the Fantastic Four - and that makes me WANT to like the movies more than I might normally, if that makes sense?

THE RISE OF THE SIVLER SURFER was *almost* good enough to be...good enough?

I'll have to give it a re-watch and see how I feel now...

And yeah, I'll still go see this current one too!