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angelofvengeance wrote:Saying that though, Quicksilver has been in the X-men series AND now the Avengers series of movies.. So technically they could use Doom in the Avenger-verse too.
Quicksilver was a unique case as he has been a member of both the Avengers and the Brotherhood of Mutants, both fairly prominently, so fell under both licences. Doom is one of those ones explicitly tied to the FF liscence, despite having gone up against almost anyone who is anyone in the Marvel universe.
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timetowaste85 wrote: Mephisto was covered in Ghost Rider, along with Blackheart (his son). Kang would totally work, it's not THAT hard to deal with, as X-men proved.
Strange should be Mordo and/or Dormmammu.
And while Marvel has already done up Loki, they still have Enchantress/Scourge, Zemo, Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker, and a slew of others.
Pretty sure he already appeared in the Winter Soldier credits scene.
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timetowaste85 wrote: Mephisto was covered in Ghost Rider, along with Blackheart (his son).
If I'm not mistaken, Marvel now have the GR rights, so they could do Mephisto easily enough (hell, even a decent GR film!)
And while Marvel has already done up Loki, they still have Enchantress/Scourge, Zemo, Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker, and a slew of others.
Of that Iist, I'd only consider Zemo and Strucker as A-list Avengers villains, rather than backup or solo film material. Strucker is in for Avengers 2, whether or not he survives that we shall see.
As for Zemo, I do hope we get Thunderbolts as a film at some point. I guess it depends on whether Sinister Six and DC's Suicide Squad go as to whether Marvel take an all-villain film route.
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angelofvengeance wrote: Saying that though, Quicksilver has been in the X-men series AND now the Avengers series of movies.. So technically they could use Doom in the Avenger-verse too.
That's not the way rights work.
timetowaste85 wrote: And while Marvel has already done up Loki, they still have Enchantress/Scourge, Zemo, Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker, and a slew of others.
Strucker has a minor role in Age of Ultron. Zemo will be in Civil War.
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The Thing is always the hardest one to 'get right' - looks OK to me, but we'll have to see how he looks on the screen, moving around and interacting with the other characters.
Agreed. I expect it to be far worse than the last one with Chicklis (spelling), Alba, Evans and Iain (whatever his last name is). I expect it to be on a similar level to Daredevil. Not quite as bad as Elektra or the Ang Lee POS Hulk movie. God, those two were bad. Like shoot-myself-in-the-face bad.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
Still not convinced. Visually it looks fine, but that's a given these days. The film will ride on how they do Doom, and so far, I don't like what I see/hear on that front.
They could do a whole movie on Graviton and the other occupants of The Raft (they already set up Graviton in Agents of SHIELD), especially if Ant-Man gets some shrinking action added to the MCU.
Egregious wrote: They could do a whole movie on Graviton and the other occupants of The Raft (they already set up Graviton in Agents of SHIELD), especially if Ant-Man gets some shrinking action added to the MCU.
Not sure you're in the right thread!
Trailer #2 makes me more optimistic, but I'll agree a lot hinges on how Doom looks/acts.
I'm also an admitted FF fanboy for...a long time now!
Was into the FF as a kid. This movie is not about the FF. It is about some group of twilight rejects getting FF like powers.
Reed Richards is supposed to be 35-40 years old. Not some just out of college research assistant.
Ben Grimm is supposed to have a thick Bronx accent....not an englishman doing a generic american accent.
Johnny Storm, hmmm....corporate "pc" decision to show that they are not racist, nor do they promote racist stereo-types, by having a black man portray an angry impulsive jock. Oh, the delicious irony.
A better choice would have been to cast him as Reed Richards, as he is the only one that looks the right age to play Mr. Fantastic.
Sue Storm, This is the only non-cgi improvement over the previous alba-ortions. The casting for Susan Storm is dead on from the looks of it.
Question, Why is the older scientist dude using what should be The Things voice?
The whole movie is a giant middle finger to the FF franchise and to Marvel.
Some here have suggested that this movie was about keeping the rights to the characters and I agree. Fox should have been thinking farther ahead in that they should be setting up the FF Spidey team-ups. Aside from the Doom, Galactus and possibly the Harkness/Franklin Richards story arcs the Spidey cross overs were the most entertaining and likely the best choice for cinematic adaptation.
All said...I will not be rewarding Fox movie corps poor choices with any of my money. I can wait the 1&1/2 years for it to be on network tv....at which point I'll probably change the channel.
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The thing that makes me hopeful about this film is Fox has clearly decided to get away from the source material to some extent. But at the same time, that really worries me about Doom. The guy playing has already said he is nothing like the comic book version. He's some kind of computer hacker instead. The traditional version, however, is the compelling one. Doctor Doom is the crazy comic book villain par excellence. So it is a bit worrisome.
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Meh, looks more entertaining to me than Supes vs. Bats and I like the people they have cast in the stuff I've seen them in so I'm good with it. I'm more likely to plunk down for this than for SvB....
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The thing that makes me hopeful about this film is Fox has clearly decided to get away from the source material to some extent. But at the same time, that really worries me about Doom. The guy playing has already said he is nothing like the comic book version. He's some kind of computer hacker instead. The traditional version, however, is the compelling one. Doctor Doom is the crazy comic book villain par excellence. So it is a bit worrisome.
Well, this version is basically taking the ULTIMATE FANTASTIC FOUR origin and going with that - so yes, they're getting away from the Classic Origin, but almost going note for note with the Ultimate one.
And in that one, yeah, it isn't as cool as Classic Doom, but it can still be pretty good!
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