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page old discussion, but still going to comment. Deep strike isn't that dangerous. You have to get really unlucky. First, a 1/3 chance for dead on isn't too bad. Second, youll scatter an average 7. Knowing both of those, its easy to place yourself in a smart position. I absolutely love deep striking daemons! With or without icons!

Back on topic. I get how necrons have the defense down, but my crons can't seem to bring the pain well enough. I think my first issue is target priority. I just feel like warriors don't do enough damage. I was able to proxy up 15 tomb blades in my last game, and they did some good work. CCB lord is still nice too. The bulk was a 20 man warrior unit and 2 10 mans in CCBs. Alsy tried the shield+obyron unit, which was hilariously awesome, will be doing that again soon!

Despite peoples adversion to them the Doomsday Ark and the Annihilation Barges are in fact good high powered shots.

You just have to have other threats as well.

I like Annihilation Barges and Doomsday Arks, I stick em usually behind something that'll give them cover and waylay the gak out things.

Also, not a fan of the Oblelisk because of it's wonky fire arks, people claim oh you'll be able to get X out of it but that's BS, I've never managed to get any more than a Annihilation barge.

Adepticon ruled that the Spheres get to turn a full sphere swivel for firing arcs, essentially granting the "3 guns can hit a single target" scenario. I saw a couple there and they did reasonably well.

That's interesting , yeah my group is for some reason super strict onfiring arcs so it's kind of annoying.

So we have the third place list from Adepticon on the Adepticon thread, but do we have the other lists? Supposedly there were 4 of them...

Hollismason wrote:
Who's making the argument D-lords can't use their assault move? It really has been that way for Tau for like ever and a day.

I've seen it pop up a few times. Here's one:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/639352.page#7663106

Not a very solid argument though. A jet unit remains a jet unit even if it is attached to a non-jet unit.

Nm found it

What is the better Flyer? Just found my old boxes of unassembled Flyers and was wondering what to build them as

 Frozocrone wrote:
What is the better Flyer? Just found my old boxes of unassembled Flyers and was wondering what to build them as

No reason to choose. The transporter thing and gun both fit snugly into the mount without glue. I just pop mine in and out depending on what I need.

Oh that's even better thanks

Havent had a chance to try out a doomscythe, but yeah, should be good with both variants. ripped apart a ghost ark, putting it back together as a doomsday ark. Going to try out that awesome large blast and see how it goes.

Has everyone been sticking to the decurion lately?

 gwarsh41 wrote:
Has everyone been sticking to the decurion lately?

Mostly been experimenting with formation based armies instead, but I've not had a lot of time to play recently.

I'll probably drop back to CAD or CAD+Formation eventually. I don't need army wide 4+++ to be unbeaten since the new codex dropped.

I've been moving away from the Decurion, as I've been trying out Orikanstar quite a bit lately. The minimum price to run a standard Orikanstar (10 shieldguard + Orikan) in a Decurion is 1179 points. Ouch. And that's without upgrades to anything, min units, and just 5 Flayed Ones as your Aux. So while I'm using this particularly Deathstar, I'm using a CAD, since it's much easier to make fit.

I've been playing nothing but Decurion, but the first and only time I've used Doom Scythes so far they got shot out of the sky by Vendettas before they did anything. So, they need another chance.

I need to try something other than Decurion. I hate to say it but the wins are too easy with it. I've played 6 games with it and never lost anything more than a handful of models each game. If I don't switch it up I'll run out of people to game with.

 gwarsh41 wrote:

Has everyone been sticking to the decurion lately?

I don't have the right models.

Has anyone tried DS a DLord with Deathmarks to give them PE on the turn they arrive? If so, what was the set up and how effective was it?

Sounds like I just suck with necrons, or am not running the right Aux in my decurions. When you guys run decurions do you bother with ghost arks? My go-to list in the past was

overlord
5 immortals
10 warriors+ark
10 warriors+ark
5 tomb blades
5 tomb blades

From there I tried the wraith aux, and I've tried okironstar once. 3/3 lost, though 2 were very close. 1 lost due to no obsec, other because I couldn't kill dreadknights worth a damn.

This saturday I will have my doomsday ark up and running, so I am going to try to bring it along, maybe leave the ghost arks at home and use those points for more aux. I sort of want to stay away from massed CC stuff, but I feel like I need some sort of CC pressure via flayed ones, wraiths, or Orikanstar (which, love the star)

I've never played against Grey Knights with Necrons but if I did I would use Decurion + Canoptek harvest for the Wraiths. The 3+ invunerable on the Wraiths is really good. Killed that giant Eldar thing with it the other night and didn't get a scratch on me.

I've also been running a CCB with Overlord

I run a lot of Destroyers and Heavies, so I use Heavy Gauss to drop things like Dreadknights/Wraithknights.

When it comes to assaulting one, you could use a Conclave or Orikanstar, both of which should drop it with no problem. However, if it's a Jump Dreadknight (which of course it will be), reaching it may be a bit difficult, as it can just jump 12" away. Much easier to chase it down with Wraiths.

I don't bother with any vehicles in my Necron lists lately, aside form perhaps Scythes if I feel I want some more mobility or the Obelisk if I want something big and scary.

I had the Okiron star with I think, 6 or 7 lychguard still up, and obyron still kicking, but okiron hadn't gone super sayian. At one point I was in CC with a chapter master and dreadknight, with CCB lord about to charge in. I won the combat by 2. Both DK and CM fell back, didn't catch them. After that they both ran from the unit the rest of the game.

I might try saving points with arks. I still don't have enough toys for options like destroyers, but I could probably proxy them.

 gwarsh41 wrote:
Sounds like I just suck with necrons, or am not running the right Aux in my decurions. When you guys run decurions do you bother with ghost arks? My go-to list in the past was

overlord
5 immortals
10 warriors+ark
10 warriors+ark
5 tomb blades
5 tomb blades

From there I tried the wraith aux, and I've tried okironstar once. 3/3 lost, though 2 were very close. 1 lost due to no obsec, other because I couldn't kill dreadknights worth a damn.

This saturday I will have my doomsday ark up and running, so I am going to try to bring it along, maybe leave the ghost arks at home and use those points for more aux. I sort of want to stay away from massed CC stuff, but I feel like I need some sort of CC pressure via flayed ones, wraiths, or Orikanstar (which, love the star)

Sucks to hear that you haven't had much luck. What I do personally is take a base Reclamation in every list and then upgrade to taste with Aux.

Overlord (Typically with the Voidreaper, 4++, IWND, Res Orb)
10x Immortals
15-20 Warriors
10x Warriors - Ark
6x Tomb Blades w/ Blasters, scopes, and vanes

And then I enjoy the Destroyer Cult (I still need more Heavies though), and Flayed Ones and Deathmarks are good and fun. I hardly use the Canoptek Harvest, but instead focus on Lychguard for my overlord and bring Night Scythes, but again, depends on what I'm feeling. I also enjoy the Judicator Battalion, which is really nice at killing 2+ saves.

I've been running a decurion list for a while now. I did pretty damn well with it (by my standards) in a team tournament, only lost one game out of five (tied one and won the other three).

The main thing I learned: Never use lychguard without Zahndrekh and if your opponent has a serious assault threat, don't swich his warlord trait. I was using a normal overlord (mostly to get a warscythe in there without adding a court) and they broke from combat in two games and were also pinned twice in one game. Damn cowards...

I just finished painting more lychguard, so I'll be trying out the deathstar next week. I'll probably do the small version (just Orikan + Zahndrekh + 10 guards) first in 1500 points, but going all the way and adding Obyron plus an overlord in a Decurion sounds pretty cool too.

 MLKTH wrote:
I've been running a decurion list for a while now. I did pretty damn well with it (by my standards) in a team tournament, only lost one game out of five (tied one and won the other three).

The main thing I learned: Never use lychguard without Zahndrekh and if your opponent has a serious assault threat, don't swich his warlord trait. I was using a normal overlord (mostly to get a warscythe in there without adding a court) and they broke from combat in two games and were also pinned twice in one game. Damn cowards...

I just finished painting more lychguard, so I'll be trying out the deathstar next week. I'll probably do the small version (just Orikan + Zahndrekh + 10 guards) first in 1500 points, but going all the way and adding Obyron plus an overlord in a Decurion sounds pretty cool too.

Catacomb Command Barge bruh. =P

How exactly is a CCB supposed to be a better choice than one of the HQs he listed?

10 Lychguard is overkill mate.

From my experience running them, 5 with a 2+ re-roll in front will last the game. Anything that's a threat to that will have trouble getting there.

Remember it's and invincible lord, with 5 LoS wounds for Ap2 weapons. No need to over commit points to it.

harkequin wrote:
10 Lychguard is overkill mate.

From my experience running them, 5 with a 2+ re-roll in front will last the game. Anything that's a threat to that will have trouble getting there.

Remember it's and invincible lord, with 5 LoS wounds for Ap2 weapons. No need to over commit points to it.

While 10 may seem like overkill, remember that depending on what you get into combat with, you'll be glad for those bodies. You really don't want to get tarpitted, and each Lychguard you add on is another 2 (3 on the charge) AP3 attacks at S5. Speaking from experience: for your opponents, 5 Lychguard is manageable to tarpit, but 10 will rip through anything except lots of Terminator saves. And if you're throwing them against another deathstar (say, TWC star or Plague Dronestar), you'll want more bodies.

Deathstars are expected to be expensive.

So just played my first game without Decurion against my girlfriend's CSM. It went surprisingly well, for her.

"Deathstars" usually want to be fast and killy.
The Orikan-Lychguard-"star" is not fast and is moderately killy.
Yes, it is borderline unkillable. And?
What's it supposed to do, just survive to prevent giving up Slay The Warlord?

Been wanting to try out a CCB recently in my Decurion + Cult + Judicator. Moving around some points means I can kit out one fairly well. How well do they do though is the question? Seems like they would get blasted out pretty quick. What's peoples experience with them so far?