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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/28 23:25:42
Subject: How is training and recruitment handled for individual SoB outposts or fortresses?
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
Greater Portland Petting Zoo
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I'm aware that they are trained the the Schola Progenium, but how does it work on the level of individual sisterhood fortresses? Can individual outposts recruit specifically from the world's upon which they reside? If so, how much oversight is there? Are there age restrictions for recruitment? Could someone who is in thir 20s join the order?
I'd greatly appreciate any insight y'all could give on how this works.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/29 00:06:22
Subject: How is training and recruitment handled for individual SoB outposts or fortresses?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
Norway
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I thought they in the end ended up getting shipped off to two planets after getting their basic training in order to insure their purity and such.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/29 02:00:27
Subject: How is training and recruitment handled for individual SoB outposts or fortresses?
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Terrifying Rhinox Rider
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A girl attends the scolam until about 16, then she joins the convent either on Ophelia or Terra. That is it, for sisters.
You gotta understand about sisters, they don't have the same purpose that an army does. The purpose of being a sister is being a sister; it's not like how the purpose of being a soldier is protecting/invading places. You become really good at your particular skill, fighting, medicine, language, because the amount of skill you attain is how you show your faith. It's a coincidence that they then go out and get jobs fighting, to fund their training activities. They staff the fortresses that they have enough sisters to staff. They don't go out and get more sisters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/29 02:20:24
Subject: How is training and recruitment handled for individual SoB outposts or fortresses?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Sisters of Battle are trained centrally through the Schola Progenium and assigned to their outpost by a central location, a fortress wouldn't recruit directly. Differing Schola facilities would be as unusual/nonstandard as recruitment would get.
As to older women joining the orders later in life without Schola training presumably that would have to go through the Convents on Ophelia or Terra; I suspect they'd get stuffed in some Progenium continuing-education course.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/29 02:38:52
Subject: How is training and recruitment handled for individual SoB outposts or fortresses?
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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They don't have to be shipped to either Ophelia VII or Satum,
A good many discover that they are to head into the ranks of the Adeptus Terra. Those young woman who show not only fine military skills but strong sings of faith are prepared to journey to training covents of the Adepta Sororitas, while others may join the Adeptus Arbites. (Codex: Militarum Tempestus. “Selection Day”. Games-Workshop. 2014. Print. P12)
Combined with this line in the BL digit-dex:
The Orders Militant spread, establishing subsidiary convents on key worlds across the Imperium. (Codex: Adepta Sororitas. Games-Workshop. “The Orders Militant”. 2013)
making it fluff-justified for SoB players to have drastically different training methods & traditions for his/her army than that of the others.
Besides, the more important questions is: does the AS recruitment from outside the Schola Progenium? And the answer is... maybe, but I know no existing fluff that supports this hypothesis...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/29 21:40:10
Subject: How is training and recruitment handled for individual SoB outposts or fortresses?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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The Training Convents are on Terra and Ophelia IV (or VI or VII, depending on who you're reading, that's changed a couple times over the years, mostly due to what seems to be typos). After they graduate that, they take their final vows on Holy Terra itself. Then they get sent somewhere out in the galaxy to serve.
You're not a member of, say, Ebon Chalice until after your training time and after you take your final vows, so you won't go to a Convent of a specific Order Militant (or Order Hospitaler, Dialoguous, Sabine, etc) until after you've completed your Novitiae and taken your vows on Holy Terra.
The Sororitas does not recruit from outside the Schola system canonically, though such mentions have been posed in certain BL novels. Then again, BL, in general, handles the Sisters very badly, so that a given author is not exactly up-to-snuff on their history would not surprise me.
Unlike Space Marines or the IG, the Sisters are pretty consistent in their training, across the board. Movement of Sisters between different Orders Militant, or between Orders Militant and Orders Non-Militant is fairly common, and often doesn't require much at all in the way of re-training.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/30 01:50:33
Subject: How is training and recruitment handled for individual SoB outposts or fortresses?
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Well the codex never specifically said where the training covenants are. In addition, Ophelia VII and Terra are the two major Convent, not specifically training convents. The Orders Militant spread, establishing subsidiary convents on key worlds across the Imperium. (Codex: Adepta Sororitas. "The Orders Militant".) Unless there is a quote from any codice that says they are specifically for training, this would be up for interpretation. I, for one, cannot find information on AS training convents anywhere. During this time, numerous other Orders Militant - the Orders Minoris - were founded across the Imperium, and they established their own traditions, doctrines, livery and titles. (Codex: Adepta Sororitas. Games-Workshop. “The Orders Militant”. 2013) If there were a time when the AS orders had minimum differences across the abroad, it is no longer as such. IMO this is a step in the right direction; why limit their flavors? Why should they have a uniformed training? you give players more options for their own "narratives" while the old players loss... nothing of value.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/30 11:55:06
Subject: How is training and recruitment handled for individual SoB outposts or fortresses?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Originally posted on the GW website, but this pdf does have the original author's name on it to prove that it's legit fluff, not fanmade stuff;
http://darkreign.org/sites/default/files/Sisters%20of%20the%20Emperor.pdf
Sister Anastasia's fluff tells us that she was selected from a Scholam, sent for training, was inducted on Terra, and then was sent to her Order - the minor Order of the Ermine Mantle. Anastasia's fluff is also important because it gives us a number for how many new Sisters are initiated a year: A mere five hundred, to serve all the Orders, Militant or otherwise.
Codex: Adepta Sororitas. Games-Workshop. “The Orders Militant”. 2013, pg 15 wrote:Though all these Orders could trace their origins back to the original teachings of the Daughters of the Emperor, a small degree of variance in terms of organisation and combat doctrine began to manifest as the outlook and persona of the founding leaders asserted itself.
That's the most recent version. Previous versions did, however, state that the variance between Orders was infinitesimal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/30 12:35:28
Subject: How is training and recruitment handled for individual SoB outposts or fortresses?
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Furyou Miko wrote:Originally posted on the GW website, but this pdf does have the original author's name on it to prove that it's legit fluff, not fanmade stuff; http://darkreign.org/sites/default/files/Sisters%20of%20the%20Emperor.pdf Sister Anastasia's fluff tells us that she was selected from a Scholam, sent for training, was inducted on Terra, and then was sent to her Order - the minor Order of the Ermine Mantle. Anastasia's fluff is also important because it gives us a number for how many new Sisters are initiated a year: A mere five hundred, to serve all the Orders, Militant or otherwise. Codex: Adepta Sororitas. Games-Workshop. “The Orders Militant”. 2013, pg 15 wrote:Though all these Orders could trace their origins back to the original teachings of the Daughters of the Emperor, a small degree of variance in terms of organisation and combat doctrine began to manifest as the outlook and persona of the founding leaders asserted itself. That's the most recent version. Previous versions did, however, state that the variance between Orders was infinitesimal. So the google search leads me to believe that this is a section of the old Witch Hunter codex, the stats of the sisters, however, seem to indicate it's from the Inquisitor RPG game, which has now been discontinued. Regardless, let's say the fluff isn't retconned yet, and take the words at face value: At the age of seventeen, Anastasia stood with five hundred of her fellow Novices and took the Oaths of Adherence in the Ecclesiarchal Palace on Terra. The Ecclesiarch himself blessed the assembled Novices in a ceremony that lasted throughout the night, and culminated at dawn with a superior from each of the Orders Militant stepping forward to don the armour of their new Order for the very first time.
I stand corrected -- or rather, apologies for my lack of clarity -- that Ophelia VII and Sanctorum are indeed amongst the training convents; however, it does not mean there are only two training convents. And that's the point -- there's no fluff justification to say that Adepta Sororitas novices have to pass through either Terra or Ophelia VII (or IV), merely they might, before becoming full-fledged sisters. As for the small variance, well, that's a start. Hopefully the variance will get greater so that players can make more radical, cool changes to their SoB armies without having to debate whether the galaxy is big enough for AdMech SoB to happen. P.S.: for that matter, the PDF also does not state whether or not Ophelia VII is a training convent, or that the Ecclesiarch presents himself in ceremony every time, or that the ceremony is held only once a year.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/30 15:29:36
Subject: How is training and recruitment handled for individual SoB outposts or fortresses?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Furyou Miko wrote:Anastasia's fluff is also important because it gives us a number for how many new Sisters are initiated a year: A mere five hundred, to serve all the Orders, Militant or otherwise.
Or 182500 (if they do a ceremony every day, rather than once a year). And that is counting only those initiated on Terra, not those on Ophelia.
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