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 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Well this would certainly make our elections more exciting

http://www.itv.com/news/2015-04-13/polish-prince-challenges-nigel-farage-to-18th-century-style-duel/

Polish prince challenges Nigel Farage to 18th Century-style duel


A Polish prince has challenged Ukip leader Nigel Farage to a sword fight, claiming he has "had enough" of what he describes as "discrimination" against his countrymen and women.

In a video message posted to YouTube, Yanek Zylinski - whose father Andrzej Zylinski was a military officer led a successful charge against the Nazis in 1939 - accused Farage of blaming eastern European migrants for the country's problems.

"I have had enough of discrimination against Polish people in this country. The most idiotic example I have heard must be Mr Nigel Farage blaming migrants for traffic jams on the M40."

Holding his father's sword, Zylinksi told Farage "enough is enough" and challenged him to an 18th Century-style duel in London.

"I'd like us to meet in Hyde Park one morning with our swords and resolve this matter in a way that an 18th Century Polish aristocrat and an English gentleman would traditionally do.
Are you up for it, Mr Farage?"


Alternatively, he offered a "duel of words" if Farage's sword was "a little bit rusty".
Ukip were not immediately available for comment on the challenge.
Last updated Mon 13 Apr 2015


Careful he probably knows sabre fencing. Don't with that guy.
As this is the UK, it should be red whippy sticks...at Dawn!

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 reds8n wrote:
Is there a specific reason why Iowa has become so important in the elections, or is it just one of those things has has happened and now just carries on ?


I -- sort of -- understand that their caucuses are a bit different and/or happen a bit earlier, is there a reason for this ?


I'm pretty sure Iowa holds the first caucus of election season. They're also a weird purple state; they have a fairly conservative state government, yet they were the first state to legalize gay marriage, outlawed slavery well before the civil war and just generally lean towards personal civil rights. They're just a weird bunch and being the first caucus getting the early "win" is seen as important.
   
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Didn't a couple of senators have it out with pistols or something back in the day Fraz? I mean it isn't as cool as swords, but it is the next best thing

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 motyak wrote:
Didn't a couple of senators have it out with pistols or something back in the day Fraz? I mean it isn't as cool as swords, but it is the next best thing


It was Alexander Hamilton Vs Aaron Burr. Hamilton was mortally wounded.

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 streamdragon wrote:
 reds8n wrote:
Is there a specific reason why Iowa has become so important in the elections, or is it just one of those things has has happened and now just carries on ?


I -- sort of -- understand that their caucuses are a bit different and/or happen a bit earlier, is there a reason for this ?


I'm pretty sure Iowa holds the first caucus of election season. They're also a weird purple state; they have a fairly conservative state government, yet they were the first state to legalize gay marriage, outlawed slavery well before the civil war and just generally lean towards personal civil rights. They're just a weird bunch and being the first caucus getting the early "win" is seen as important.



Is there any specific reason why they're always the first to hold the caucus though ? Assume it's just part of the tradition/process now but presumably there'd be nothing to stop somewhere else from "trumping" them and going before them right ?

A bit surprised that , if perhaps only once or twice, nowhere has done this before, especially in places where a candidate would be considered a shoo-in.

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 reds8n wrote:
 streamdragon wrote:
 reds8n wrote:
Is there a specific reason why Iowa has become so important in the elections, or is it just one of those things has has happened and now just carries on ?


I -- sort of -- understand that their caucuses are a bit different and/or happen a bit earlier, is there a reason for this ?


I'm pretty sure Iowa holds the first caucus of election season. They're also a weird purple state; they have a fairly conservative state government, yet they were the first state to legalize gay marriage, outlawed slavery well before the civil war and just generally lean towards personal civil rights. They're just a weird bunch and being the first caucus getting the early "win" is seen as important.



Is there any specific reason why they're always the first to hold the caucus though ? Assume it's just part of the tradition/process now but presumably there'd be nothing to stop somewhere else from "trumping" them and going before them right ?

A bit surprised that , if perhaps only once or twice, nowhere has done this before, especially in places where a candidate would be considered a shoo-in.


Its a law in those states to be first-no seriously. All that advertising and campaiging is big business and they make good money off of it.

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With all due respect to Iowa, America's got bigger fish to fry than a democrat primary.

Joe Commie's on the march again in China, and what's America doing about it? Nil, zadda, nyet, nien, nothing!

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We're busy trying to contain all the sparkly vampires in California.

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So, has the wiener dog party put up a candidate yet?

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So, has the wiener dog party put up a candidate yet?


TBone of course. A treat in every bowl!

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We're busy trying to contain all the sparkly vampires in California.


With what? We aren't allowed to open carry wooden stakes or crossbows, good holy water is hard to find and all this pollution is blocking out the sun so they can walk around during the day!

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 Frazzled wrote:
We're busy trying to contain all the sparkly vampires in California.


Are they reds as well? They're all reds - wieners, Texans, democrats!

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 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I've been reading a lot of newspaper coverage over Hilary Clinton's decision to run for the White House, and it can be summed up by the following:

America: vote for me because I'm a woman and we've never had a female President before...

I've nothing against women getting the top job, but what a depressing, dull vision for the USA. I feel sorry for the American people, and myself, because we'll be bombarded with this for the next two years!!

Where's the ideas? Where's the vision? America will have an epic fight on its hands this century against China (and I don't mean military), so who's going to take America forward? Who's going to react to new challenges?

I've been re-reading John Adams Vs Thomas Jefferson and their battle for America, and I must admit, those guys must be spinning in their graves at the intellectual poverty of ideas and vision in the USA.

I know... right? She's the Inevitable Candidate™ since 2008. But, she ran into Obama.

Interestingly, if anyone brings up how the GOP is sexist... just remember this:
http://oliverwillis.com/2008/05/08/hillary-white-power-clinton/
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Hillary Rodham Clinton vowed Wednesday to continue her quest for the Democratic nomination, arguing she would be the stronger nominee because she appeals to a wider coalition of voters — including whites who have not supported Barack Obama in recent contests.

“I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on,” she said in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an Associated Press article “that found how Sen. Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”

“There’s a pattern emerging here,” she said.

Indeed, a pattern has emerged some time ago. Boy, did we dodge a bullet.

“[W]orking, hard-working Americans, white Americans”. She really said that. Wow.

Congratulations, Hillary Clinton, you win the prize for the first Democratic Bigot Eruption since I’ve been keeping track of this. Even professional haters like Pat Buchanan and his ilk aren’t so balls-out about racism. You’ve been getting your ass handed to you and especially among black voters. This shows me once again that we – who are apparently lazy and shiftless non-Americans based on your definition – have yet again been a leading indicator.

There was maybe a slight chance Barack Obama might have been pushed to pick you as his running mate, but we can’t have someone spouting Klan-style talking points on the ticket. Heck, there’s a good shot with language like that you won’t win back your senate seat in 2012. I mean, a lot of those apparently lazy and shiftless non-American blacks helped you to win and they’d just as soon vote for someone else in the primary or the Republican in the election rather than someone echoing Bull Connor’s language.

“Working, hard working Americans, white Americans”, indeed.

UPDATE: Thanks for the link Americablog, and to make clear what I consider Clinton’s Klan-style talking point is her assertion that the hard working Americans are white Americans. That’s what I take offense to, and I don’t think you have to be black to feel that way.

The Democratic supporters accuses Hillary in a racist Klanspeako in 2008...

I don't think she's racist... but, she's very prone to these sorts of "speakoes"... and she's a horribad campaigner.

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 whembly wrote:

I know... right? She's the Inevitable Candidate™ since 2008. But, she ran into Obama.


So she wasn't, and isn't, the inevitable candidate.

 whembly wrote:

I don't think she's racist... but, she's very prone to these sorts of "speakoes"... and she's a horribad campaigner.


She is a bad campaigner, but that video doesn't seem like a gaffe to me. The associated article seems like a sensationalist journalist latching onto something in order to generate hits and otherwise gain attention.

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Can I just go on the record now and say: Hi there. I'm a liberal Democrat and I nominate anyone on the Democratic ticket other than Hillary Clinton for president.

Because I feel that needs to happen. Contrary to what a lot of conservatives want to believe, we aren't all in love with Hillary over here on the left.

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Can I just go on the record now and say: Hi there. I'm a liberal Democrat and I nominate anyone on the Democratic ticket other than Hillary Clinton for president.

Because I feel that needs to happen. Contrary to what a lot of conservatives want to believe, we aren't all in love with Hillary over here on the left.




Who's your ideal candidate for the Democratic party?

I'm partial to Gov. Richardson... but, he has too many skeleton his closet.

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Honestly, I'm probably going to vote green or not at all. Unless the republican candidate is really bad. Kind of depressing, my first time voting in a presidential election and it's going to probably be Hilliary vs. some super-conservative the way things are going. Neither of which I want to be president. I'm a social liberal, but I'm not a democrat, so I'm not wholly opposed to a republican president, but they would have to be at least a social moderate. And, despite the fact that running a moderate would probably win them the Whitehouse, there is no way the republican primary is going to get a moderate candidate.

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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
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Honestly, I'm probably going to vote green or not at all. Unless the republican candidate is really bad. Kind of depressing, my first time voting in a presidential election and it's going to probably be Hilliary vs. some super-conservative the way things are going. Neither of which I want to be president. I'm a social liberal, but I'm not a democrat, so I'm not wholly opposed to a republican president, but they would have to be at least a social moderate. And, despite the fact that running a moderate would probably win them the Whitehouse, there is no way the republican primary is going to get a moderate candidate.


I think we're in for a return to the 1990s - Clinton Vs Bush. And because there's talk of the X-files coming back, we could all be having a weird feeling of deja vu

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 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Zephyr Rain Teachout! Only for the name.

Honestly, I'm probably going to vote green or not at all. Unless the republican candidate is really bad. Kind of depressing, my first time voting in a presidential election and it's going to probably be Hilliary vs. some super-conservative the way things are going. Neither of which I want to be president. I'm a social liberal, but I'm not a democrat, so I'm not wholly opposed to a republican president, but they would have to be at least a social moderate. And, despite the fact that running a moderate would probably win them the Whitehouse, there is no way the republican primary is going to get a moderate candidate.


I think we're in for a return to the 1990s - Clinton Vs Bush. And because there's talk of the X-files coming back, we could all be having a weird feeling of deja vu


Whats interesting is that, since that time, both parties have shifted their bases dramatically and shifted from moderate domination to the fanatics taking over. I just don't see the enthusiasm for H Clinton as I saw for Obama. I could see her losing because the weather is bad on election day....

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I would love to see Warren run and win, but I guess the US are not ready for her yet ...

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Meh, not enough experience IMO.

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Allow me to dream

But yeah, she may not be ready either for the office.

Anyway, having a Democrat in the WH will not help the US if the Republicans keep the House & Senate.

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But yeah, she may not be ready either for the office.

Anyway, having a Democrat in the WH will not help the US if the Republicans keep the House & Senate.


Why not. The US has operated well with divided government for centuries. Legislation that is forced to include at least minimally acceptable terms from both parties has secured such things as the Voting Rights Act, the Great Society, Clinton's welfare reform, and beat Da Kommies! You forget when robo FDR was firing away with his multi combi bazooka/50 calls, it was a young Nixon that was behind him, loading those rounds and calling in B52 strikes.

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I don't really think the R's are going to keep the senate. The R's were mostly running anti-Obama/ACA, so they will probably have to run on actual issues, which (sadly) many people aren't really as interested in. And the D's tend to do better on presidential election years anyway. No idea about the house though.

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Fair points. I've been utterly disappointed in the Senate since they retook it. Despite Reid stepping down there have still been almost no heavy votes. Its like they forgot their job is to promote and at least vote on good legislation.


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Rubio formally threw his hat in the ring:
http://news.yahoo.com/u-senator-rubio-says-hes-running-president-2016-145402627.html

Guessing that his ceiling would be the VP ticket.

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Who's your ideal candidate for the Democratic party?


I'd say Joe Biden, if for no other reason than he'd make verbal gaffes that would give late night comedians material for decades, but if I was going to actually answer that question seriously and think about who I want running the country, I would have to say: I don't actually know.

I'd like for the Democratic primary to be an event that showcases some alternative candidates, so that I can learn about who else is out there and what they are about and get a sense of how they will govern... but with Hillary officially tossing her hat into the ring, I have this chilling suspicion that anybody worthwhile won't bother running against the Clinton juggernaut.

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squidhills wrote:Contrary to what a lot of conservatives want to believe, we aren't all in love with Hillary over here on the left.


Well, the problem is that in the US, we only have a right wing, and an extreme right wing. There is no truly liberal party.

reds8n wrote:Is there a specific reason why Iowa has become so important in the elections, or is it just one of those things has has happened and now just carries on ?


The latter, I assure you.

Note that other states have tried to move it earlier, and been punished by the parties for it. It's just the status quo at this point. As someone who lives in Iowa, I assure you it's incredible irritating - nonstop robocalls and phones books worth of junk mail.

streamdragon wrote:I'm pretty sure Iowa holds the first caucus of election season. They're also a weird purple state; they have a fairly conservative state government, yet they were the first state to legalize gay marriage, outlawed slavery well before the civil war and just generally lean towards personal civil rights. They're just a weird bunch and being the first caucus getting the early "win" is seen as important.


There's a bunch more stuff like that, too.

Iowa has a very weird character, politically. I'm not the Emperor of Iowa so I'm speaking on a personal level here but in my experience the most important thing to an Iowan is to be left alone to do what you want, much like a very conservative grandmother who is privately horrified by their queer grandson but will get into a fistfight in church over anyone who insults the gays. Dammit, she may not approve of Johnny, but if Johnny wants to sin in that bedroom, well, Johnny's the captain of his own soul, so to speak.



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since sanctions (some) have been lifted Putin/FDR/USSR is selling Iran SA300 systems.

FDR? I think he's dead.

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squidhills wrote:Contrary to what a lot of conservatives want to believe, we aren't all in love with Hillary over here on the left.


Well, the problem is that in the US, we only have a right wing, and an extreme right wing. There is no truly liberal party.



I don't know, the green party is pretty liberal.

Oh, you meant, "party that actually matters because our horrible electioneering system has brought us to a horrible two party system." I gotcha.

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Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
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Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
 
   
 
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