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 BrotherGecko wrote:
 whembly wrote:
 A Town Called Malus wrote:
 Gordon Shumway wrote:
And now Trump has resorted to mocking a physically disabled reporter...and get this, he is demanding an apology for "the media" attacking him for it. Seriously can't make this stuff up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-denies-mocking-journalist-with-disability--and-demands-an-apology/2015/11/26/797e011c-9492-11e5-b5e4-279b4501e8a6_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trump-748pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

I wonder if his poll numbers will go up even higher among GOP primary voters?


It is so depressing that I think it actually will.

Okay... I don't get the impression that Trump was mocking the reporter's disability. (this needs to be a meme like all those Russian memes)

Trump was *mocking* the reporter, don't get me wrong, as it's along the same tactic he used with others.

But, this dogpile is bizzare and unfortunately feeds into the ridiculous narrative that everyone is so unfair to Trump. Thus he'll enjoy a bump in the polls.

Ya'll should feel bad for making me defend Trump.


Naw brah, he very much did diliberately mock Serge Kovaleski's disability. Let's not be PC here and defend Trump's actions. He is a mean spirited person that attracts mean spirited people.

So yes he will see a jump in the polls because he does precisely what horrible people want to see.

Let's be honest here...

He mocks you because he’s Trump and you’re a loser.... or something.

He's one narcissist donkey-cave that's for sure and I hope he faces a humilating defeat soon.

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 whembly wrote:

But, this dogpile is bizzare and unfortunately feeds into the ridiculous narrative that everyone is so unfair to Trump. Thus he'll enjoy a bump in the polls.


If someone wanted to be really unfair to Trump they would bring up Katie Rees, and juxtapose his response to her behavior with that of Tara Conner.

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How anyone could begin to think he wasn't taking the piss out of the guys disability is beyond me.

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 whembly wrote:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
 whembly wrote:
 A Town Called Malus wrote:
 Gordon Shumway wrote:
And now Trump has resorted to mocking a physically disabled reporter...and get this, he is demanding an apology for "the media" attacking him for it. Seriously can't make this stuff up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-denies-mocking-journalist-with-disability--and-demands-an-apology/2015/11/26/797e011c-9492-11e5-b5e4-279b4501e8a6_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trump-748pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

I wonder if his poll numbers will go up even higher among GOP primary voters?


It is so depressing that I think it actually will.

Okay... I don't get the impression that Trump was mocking the reporter's disability. (this needs to be a meme like all those Russian memes)

Trump was *mocking* the reporter, don't get me wrong, as it's along the same tactic he used with others.

But, this dogpile is bizzare and unfortunately feeds into the ridiculous narrative that everyone is so unfair to Trump. Thus he'll enjoy a bump in the polls.

Ya'll should feel bad for making me defend Trump.


Naw brah, he very much did diliberately mock Serge Kovaleski's disability. Let's not be PC here and defend Trump's actions. He is a mean spirited person that attracts mean spirited people.

So yes he will see a jump in the polls because he does precisely what horrible people want to see.

Let's be honest here...

He mocks you because he’s Trump and you’re a loser.... or something.

He's one narcissist donkey-cave that's for sure and I hope he faces a humilating defeat soon.


I don't see it. America's slimy underbelly that we refused to believe exists is finally rearing its ugly head. The US has had a resurgence of extremism I think and most of us never noticed it.

Trump will duke it out until he either wins or is told by the people he is not allowed to fight anymore. His level of narcissism will allow nothing less.

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Actually, I would like to expand somewhat.

Mocking people is fine.

Mocking people for things they have zero control over is not. Using those things is disgusting.

Mocking the reporter would be fine. Adding in the blatantly obvious dig at his disability that only a shill would ignore/defend? Not fine.

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Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
 
   
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 whembly wrote:
 A Town Called Malus wrote:
 Gordon Shumway wrote:
And now Trump has resorted to mocking a physically disabled reporter...and get this, he is demanding an apology for "the media" attacking him for it. Seriously can't make this stuff up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-denies-mocking-journalist-with-disability--and-demands-an-apology/2015/11/26/797e011c-9492-11e5-b5e4-279b4501e8a6_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trump-748pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

I wonder if his poll numbers will go up even higher among GOP primary voters?


It is so depressing that I think it actually will.

Okay... I don't get the impression that Trump was mocking the reporter's disability.

Trump was *mocking* the reporter, don't get me wrong, as it's along the same tactic he used with others.

But, this dogpile is bizzare and unfortunately feeds into the ridiculous narrative that everyone is so unfair to Trump. Thus he'll enjoy a bump in the polls.

Ya'll should feel bad for making me defend Trump.


Did you actually watch the video? Because it's pretty clear he was parodying the reporter if you know anything about that reporter. He was doing a pretty clear mock impersonation.

Nobody's making you defend Trump, you are doing it of your own free will. Why, is absolutely beyond me.

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WASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) — An outspoken Florida Democratic congressman says he will file a lawsuit over Ted Cruz’s citizenship if the Texas senator is elected president.

Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., told Fox News Radio he will “file that beautiful lawsuit” since Cruz was born in Canada.

“The Constitution says ‘natural born Americans.’ So now we’re counting Canadians as natural born Americans? How does that work?” Grayson questioned.

Cruz, whose mother is American and father Cuban, was born in Canada in 1970 and moved to Texas in 1974. The senator renounced his Canadian citizenry in 2014.

Grayson said Cruz isn’t an American.

“It’s not ‘The Biggest Loser’ that they’re choosing, it’s ‘The Biggest Bigot,'” Grayson told Fox News Radio. “In a sense, I guess, Cruz is not technically that way, because technically he’s not even an American.”

Cruz recently survived a challenge to appear on New Hampshire’s primary ballot.

The challenge against Cruz alleged he was ineligible to run for president because he was born in Canada.

Cruz’s mother was born in Delaware, giving him U.S. citizenship upon birth.

The New Hampshire Ballot Law Commission rejected the challenge.


Source

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 Kanluwen wrote:
WASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) — An outspoken Florida Democratic congressman says he will file a lawsuit over Ted Cruz’s citizenship if the Texas senator is elected president.

Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., told Fox News Radio he will “file that beautiful lawsuit” since Cruz was born in Canada.

“The Constitution says ‘natural born Americans.’ So now we’re counting Canadians as natural born Americans? How does that work?” Grayson questioned.

Cruz, whose mother is American and father Cuban, was born in Canada in 1970 and moved to Texas in 1974. The senator renounced his Canadian citizenry in 2014.

Grayson said Cruz isn’t an American.

“It’s not ‘The Biggest Loser’ that they’re choosing, it’s ‘The Biggest Bigot,'” Grayson told Fox News Radio. “In a sense, I guess, Cruz is not technically that way, because technically he’s not even an American.”

Cruz recently survived a challenge to appear on New Hampshire’s primary ballot.

The challenge against Cruz alleged he was ineligible to run for president because he was born in Canada.

Cruz’s mother was born in Delaware, giving him U.S. citizenship upon birth.

The New Hampshire Ballot Law Commission rejected the challenge.


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Utterly pointless. To be a natural born US citizen one or both of your parents must be a US citizen. The fact that he was born in Canada has no bearing on his citizenship because his mother was a US citizen at the time. The 14th Amendment that grants citizenship to everyone born in the US wasn't ratified until 1868 so for the first 100 years none of the presidents were granted citizenship due to their birthplace and all of them were legally elected. There is no way for a reasonable and intelligent person to argue that the constitution was written to stipulate that only people born in the US were eligible to be PotUS when at the time being born in the US did not grant you US citizenship.

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Just as bad as the whole mess with Obama's birth certificate. Politicians acting like children, seriously. If the guy gets elected in the first place then it is obviously not a significant enough issue to prevent it. If you really cared about the citizenship 'issue' then the time to bring it up would be when he announces he will run, not when he starts doing well or actually gets elected. Otherwise it just shows you are scrambling for ways to get rid of a president you personally don't like.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Just as bad as the whole mess with Obama's birth certificate. Politicians acting like children, seriously. If the guy gets elected in the first place then it is obviously not a significant enough issue to prevent it. If you really cared about the citizenship 'issue' then the time to bring it up would be when he announces he will run, not when he starts doing well or actually gets elected. Otherwise it just shows you are scrambling for ways to get rid of a president you personally don't like.


While I agree that it is childish you can't file suit without a grievance, and there is no law preventing American political parties from nominating an ineligible candidate.

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I suspect that this may be intended to mock/satirize the whole Obama birth certificate thing rather than being a serious attempt to block Cruz.

I also wonder if this would have happened if it had been someone other than Cruz.

So, yeah, childish and largely pointless. The sad part is that the only winner here will ultimately be Cruz.

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 dogma wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Just as bad as the whole mess with Obama's birth certificate. Politicians acting like children, seriously. If the guy gets elected in the first place then it is obviously not a significant enough issue to prevent it. If you really cared about the citizenship 'issue' then the time to bring it up would be when he announces he will run, not when he starts doing well or actually gets elected. Otherwise it just shows you are scrambling for ways to get rid of a president you personally don't like.


While I agree that it is childish you can't file suit without a grievance, and there is no law preventing American political parties from nominating an ineligible candidate.
My point being that if one was concerned about the political process at hand, they would have brought up the ineligibility issue when that candidate entered the race. As it stands, its kind of like accusing an athlete of using steroids after they beat you, when before you didn't care.

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 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I suspect that this may be intended to mock/satirize the whole Obama birth certificate thing rather than being a serious attempt to block Cruz.


That seems to be the case.

“In a sense, I guess, Cruz is not technically that way — because technically he’s not even an American,” he said. “His mother was born here, so I guess like [President Barack] Obama, it’s interesting to me that the people who had a problem with Obama’s birth certificate don’t have a problem with Ted Cruz, who literally was born in another country and renounced his Canadian citizenry.”

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
 dogma wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Just as bad as the whole mess with Obama's birth certificate. Politicians acting like children, seriously. If the guy gets elected in the first place then it is obviously not a significant enough issue to prevent it. If you really cared about the citizenship 'issue' then the time to bring it up would be when he announces he will run, not when he starts doing well or actually gets elected. Otherwise it just shows you are scrambling for ways to get rid of a president you personally don't like.


While I agree that it is childish you can't file suit without a grievance, and there is no law preventing American political parties from nominating an ineligible candidate.
My point being that if one was concerned about the political process at hand, they would have brought up the ineligibility issue when that candidate entered the race. As it stands, its kind of like accusing an athlete of using steroids after they beat you, when before you didn't care.


True, if Grayson really thought Cruz was ineligible he could file a suit right now since Cruz has already declared.

Of course that issue while valid is also irrelevant to the fact that Grayson is deliberately perpetrating the obviously false narrative that Cruz is ineligible in order to pander to extremists and stroke his ego. The erroneous semantic game that "natural bornn" refers to being born in the US is farcical at face value. There is no requirement for PotUS candidates to be born in the US only that they be born with one or more US citizen parents and not be a naturalized citizen. Again, being born in the US didn't automatically convey citizenship until the 14th amendment was passed in 1868 so it's literally impossible for the Constitution to reference such a law when it was passed.

It's a non issue for Cruz just like it was for Obama.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
My point being that if one was concerned about the political process at hand, they would have brought up the ineligibility issue when that candidate entered the race. As it stands, its kind of like accusing an athlete of using steroids after they beat you, when before you didn't care.


I don't know if Grayson was involved, but there was talk of Cruz's eligibility back in 2013 and again when he declared in March of 2015. Since Grayson is running for Rubio's vacated Senate seat, and has a history of making vitriolic comments about Republicans, his statement does make a degree of political sense.

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True, if Grayson really thought Cruz was ineligible he could file a suit right now since Cruz has already declared.


Ineligible candidates can legally file for Presidential candidacy. All filing Form 2 does is register a candidates financial activity with the FEC. No one would have legitimate cause to bring suit until Cruz's hypothetical election as POTUS.

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 dogma wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
My point being that if one was concerned about the political process at hand, they would have brought up the ineligibility issue when that candidate entered the race. As it stands, its kind of like accusing an athlete of using steroids after they beat you, when before you didn't care.


I don't know if Grayson was involved, but there was talk of Cruz's eligibility back in 2013 and again when he declared in March of 2015. Since Grayson is running for Rubio's vacated Senate seat, and has a history of making vitriolic comments about Republicans, his statement does make a degree of political sense.

Prestor Jon wrote:

True, if Grayson really thought Cruz was ineligible he could file a suit right now since Cruz has already declared.


Ineligible candidates can legally file for Presidential candidacy. All filing Form 2 does is register a candidates financial activity with the FEC. No one would have legitimate cause to bring suit until Cruz's hypothetical election as POTUS.


Whenever suit is filed, if at all, it's still embarassingly frivolous and stupid. Filing a lawsuit on those grounds is just admitting that you either can't understand the plain English in the constitution or you just don't care.

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Prestor Jon wrote:

Whenever suit is filed, if at all, it's still embarassingly frivolous and stupid. Filing a lawsuit on those grounds is just admitting that you either can't understand the plain English in the constitution or you just don't care.


The principle of jus sanguinis is not mentioned in the Constitution, it was first mentioned in Federal legislation in 1790.

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 dogma wrote:
Prestor Jon wrote:

Whenever suit is filed, if at all, it's still embarassingly frivolous and stupid. Filing a lawsuit on those grounds is just admitting that you either can't understand the plain English in the constitution or you just don't care.


The principle of jus sanguinis is not mentioned in the Constitution, it was first mentioned in Federal legislation in 1790.


I never said it was. I said there isn't anything in the Constitution that would support the claim that Cruz or Obama aren't eligible US citizens for holding office as president.

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I think we can all agree that its more of the same childish bickering that is now par for the course.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I think we can all agree that its more of the same childish bickering that is now par for the course.


True. I'm not sure what's worse, the childish unprofessionalism of our politicians, the way its condoned and encouraged by the media or the fact that a large portion of the public happily laps it up.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I think we can all agree that its more of the same childish bickering that is now par for the course.


I mean, this is the guy who sent his supporters an email comparing the Tea Party to the KKK using the image of a burning cross as a stand-in for the "T". Not exactly a subtle guy.

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I think we can all agree that its more of the same childish bickering that is now par for the course.

Eh... let it go to the courts.

I think he'd actually be elected first to have any chance this traveling up to the Supreme Court.

At least this damned question can be resolved.

Ya'll remember that Congress had to pass a resolution in 2008 stating that John McCain was a natural born citizen. (McCain was born in Panama to a military family on assignment and his parents were both citizens.)

We wouldn't want to have Congress pass a resolution everytime this comes up... no?

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 whembly wrote:


We wouldn't want to have Congress pass a resolution everytime this comes up... no?


Certainly not, but the fantasy in my head of such a resolution failing to pass in Cruz's case puts a smile on my face.

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I don't think it's a serious suggestion. More pointing out the hypocrisy that the majority of people that were claiming Obama wasn't eligible to be president are among the strongest supporters of Cruz but they aren't saying word one about it.
   
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More news on the next Liar-In-Chief:
Henry: Indication Of More Classified Information Contained In Hillary Clinton’s Emails
The State Department released another batch of the emails on Hillary Clinton’s private server, and with that more indications Clinton possessed classified information on her unsecured private account according to Ed Henry.

“The bigger picture, the broader point here is Hillary Clinton back in March said no classified information on this server and as we continue to see the drip-drip there are indications, of course, that there are dozens of those emails already come out that did have classified information,” Henry said.

Politico reported that between 200 and 300 emails were marked classified by the State Department from their October release, bringing the total number of messages now deemed classified between 600 and 700.

At the onset of her email scandal, Clinton assured the American people that there was no classified information sent or received on her private email address. She guaranteed that no sensitive information would be found on her server, and forcefully pushed back against accusations that her email set up was a national security risk.

After a CIA review revealed at least two emails on Clinton’s server possessed top-secret information, the Clinton campaign adjusted their story. Their new position was Clinton did not send or receive anything marked classified at the time.

“I did not send or receive any information marked classified. I take the responsibilities of handling classified materials very seriously and did so,” Clinton said in response to the story.

State Department spokesperson John Kirby echoed the Clinton campaign’s talking points last month, pointing out that of the hundreds of messages now labeled classified, none of them “were marked classified at the time they were sent or received.”

Clinton’s email fiasco has plagued her campaign since her announcement. During the summer months, the Democratic frontrunner suffered her worst favorability rating ever because a majority of Americans do not believe she is honest or trustworthy.

“That has been an issue for this campaign and will no doubt continue to be one,” Henry said.

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Oh, "Liar-In-Chief" is what we're referring to Hilary Clinton as now?

Your disrespectful attitude to someone you have never met but only have a political beef with is despicable.
   
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/20/yes-its-a-major-problem-that-two-thirds-of-voters-dont-think-hillary-clinton-is-honest-or-trustworthy/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/7/hillary-clinton-not-honest-and-trustworthy-florida/?page=all

Hell, she even lied when trying to say how trustworthy she is.

http://time.com/3951961/hillary-clintons-cnn-interview-trustworthy/

Yeah, it's all a political beef. *rolls eyes*

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 djones520 wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/20/yes-its-a-major-problem-that-two-thirds-of-voters-dont-think-hillary-clinton-is-honest-or-trustworthy/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/7/hillary-clinton-not-honest-and-trustworthy-florida/?page=all

Hell, she even lied when trying to say how trustworthy she is.

http://time.com/3951961/hillary-clintons-cnn-interview-trustworthy/

Yeah, it's all a political beef. *rolls eyes*

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 Kanluwen wrote:
Oh, "Liar-In-Chief" is what we're referring to Hilary Clinton as now?

A) She's going to be the next President.

B) Yes, she's a fething liar.

Your disrespectful attitude to someone you have never met but only have a political beef with is despicable.

What? I can't hear you way up on your horse... here, use this:

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 whembly wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Oh, "Liar-In-Chief" is what we're referring to Hilary Clinton as now?

A) She's going to be the next President.

B) Yes, she's a fething liar.

Your disrespectful attitude to someone you have never met but only have a political beef with is despicable.

What? I can't hear you way up on your horse... here, use this:


You might need a bigger sound system.

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