Games Workshop competition - win a space marines height in miniatures

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**SilverMK2**

Is there anything on gw's site that is less than £40 anyway? Pretty sure even a pot of paint is almost that much these days!

**Kirasu**

Hm so space marines are about 6 feet tall without armor.. Good job GW.

**Jadenim**

Herzlos wrote:

I think it's more than it's usual GW; great idea but terrible execution. Competition only runs for 53 hours* over the weekend - anyone who only uses internet from work/school will find the competition has ended before they knew about it. Seems to only apply to the webstore, potentially not legal in one of the main markets. Vague delivery schedule.

*Why would they do this? I mean, it looks like they've just started ripping off Warlord Games wholesale, who ran a similar competition (buy anything online in January and enter a draw for £250 in vouchers). My thoughts are either: [a] they don't actually want people to enter, but that's slowed as they're giving out 5 prizes anyway, or [b] they really need a quick cash boost before Monday (maybe they need to pay for the 9th Ed WHF books).

Err, the rules I'm reading say that it's open until midnight on 1st March, that's a lot longer than 53 hours.

Time to figure out what direct only stuff I had on my wish list; £40 of stuff I couldn't buy elsewhere anyway for the chance to win a shed load of models sounds reasonable to me.

**Talys**

Absolutionis wrote:
I'd rather get a guaranteed 20%-30% off GW product rather than throw myself into some lottery. The entry fee for this is paying GW prices. I'm really surprised people actually think this promotional is worthwhile.

It's kind of cool, actually

Once in a while, I buy from GW's website just for a few direct-only items, and may top up with a solo model that my FLGS doesn't happen to have on hand (like a Farseer). You need to order $80 or more to get the free shipping anyhow (Canadian).

In principle, of course, I agree: better to take the 20%-30% than a lottery ticket. I'm just saying that occasionally, there is a need to order something rom the web store anyhow.

**Kirasu**

There is only a need to order from the webstore because people keep ordering "direct only items"... which makes GW pull them from FLGS in order to gouge you on labeling them "direct only"..

Just ask Showcase comics how this works :p

**agnosto**

It's a great idea, just poorly executed; it's almost as if....naw, there's no way that GW secretly owns Mantic....or is there?

So, for you UK types. How is GW getting around the Gambling Act of 2005:

. As a general rule, a good linked to a promotion charged at a price that bears little relation either to its cost of production or to comparable products may mean the promotion will be challenged as an illegal lottery.

*note, I'm kidding here.

**Sean_OBrien**

Wrecker wrote:
Wait, so your telling me if I were to order from the website, being American, I may not be eligible to to receive the prize in the event, that by chance I got the "golden ticket" (Wiley wonka is playing in my head right now), due to the US and UK laws see differently? Hahahaha what ever happened to global enterprising? And Capitalism? I thought that we were buddies in this. Or is this some kind of grudge because of something else? ....and darn you Wiley Wonka! And you doughboys for your golden tickets! We all know that your still an empire! But that didn't help you when a few krauts came a knockin lol jk lol jk or am I?

Nope.

What I am saying is that GW is quite likely doing something a good bit illegal. Not allowing you to win would be even more illegal. Not letting you enter without the purchase is the illegal part, not the contest in and of itself.

We have sweepstakes all the time, all over the US. The difference is that there needs to be a form of some sort that provides equal opportunity to win the prize without actually making the purchase. The purchase moves the contest from a sweepstakes to a lottery.

**Herzlos**

Jadenim wrote:
Herzlos wrote:

I think it's more than it's usual GW; great idea but terrible execution. Competition only runs for 53 hours* over the weekend - anyone who only uses internet from work/school will find the competition has ended before they knew about it. Seems to only apply to the webstore, potentially not legal in one of the main markets. Vague delivery schedule.

*Why would they do this? I mean, it looks like they've just started ripping off Warlord Games wholesale, who ran a similar competition (buy anything online in January and enter a draw for £250 in vouchers). My thoughts are either: [a] they don't actually want people to enter, but that's slowed as they're giving out 5 prizes anyway, or [b] they really need a quick cash boost before Monday (maybe they need to pay for the 9th Ed WHF books).

Err, the rules I'm reading say that it's open until midnight on 1st March, that's a lot longer than 53 hours.

Time to figure out what direct only stuff I had on my wish list; £40 of stuff I couldn't buy elsewhere anyway for the chance to win a shed load of models sounds reasonable to me.

Yeah you're right. I was on the Internet too early this morning.

**Relapse**

This reminds me of the competitions they used to have yearly back in the early 80's and 90's where entrants had a chance of winning one of every boxed set GW made. It made quit a nice pile, but this contest is better because you can build a couple decent armies out of the prize.

**angelofvengeance**

Tempting as this is, I'll have to pass. I already have quite the backlog of stuff (who doesn't?!)

**Hivefleet Kara'don**

Relapse wrote:
This reminds me of the competitions they used to have yearly back in the early 80's and 90's where entrants had a chance of winning one of every boxed set GW made. It made quit a nice pile, but this contest is better because you can build a couple decent armies out of the prize.

I remember this Comp well. You had to fill in a customer survey which came in White Dwarf. One of every box set was a pretty impressive site. I should know as my best friend at school won it

**Computron**

Schlyne wrote:

reasonable restrictions may be placed on individual product quantities

I think they might have an issue if you figured out what the slimmest, most expensive model there is, and then asked for as many of them as you could get

How do you define reasonable in a gaming/collecting situation? Someone might legitimately want x-number of some expensive item for a diorama. They already limited battle boards to a single piece.

**Ignatius-Grulgor**

Computron wrote:
Schlyne wrote:

reasonable restrictions may be placed on individual product quantities

I think they might have an issue if you figured out what the slimmest, most expensive model there is, and then asked for as many of them as you could get

How do you define reasonable in a gaming/collecting situation? Someone might legitimately want x-number of some expensive item for a diorama. They already limited battle boards to a single piece.

I think it's more a case of not asking for 7 feet of lord of skulls or the like, they're a very expensive kit in a surprisingly slim box, and since they clearly want to use this as PR of some form afterwards. Since they're asking permission to print your name etc, they probably don't want it to be a blatant case of 'lol this all going on ebay'.

**Relapse**

Hivefleet Kara'don wrote:
Relapse wrote:
This reminds me of the competitions they used to have yearly back in the early 80's and 90's where entrants had a chance of winning one of every boxed set GW made. It made quit a nice pile, but this contest is better because you can build a couple decent armies out of the prize.

I remember this Comp well. You had to fill in a customer survey which came in White Dwarf. One of every box set was a pretty impressive site. I should know as my best friend at school won it

I'll be betting that was quite the celebration when he won that. Do you remember how many boxes that ended up being?

**Medium of Death**

The height of the space marine made me rage a little.

Is everybody in GW HQ a dwarf?

**Oaka**

At this point it would be in GW's best interest to allow anything for the winner. It would be like the old Nickolodeon Toy Runs of yore.

**Abadabadoobaddon**

So for the first time ever I was actually going to order some webstore exclusive stuff but they all seem to be "temporarily out of stock". Since they are Fantasy Battle items and Fantasy Battle is getting squatted I suppose I shouldn't expect to ever receive that email notifying me they are back in stock. Oh well, tried to give GW money but I guess they don't want it. Fair enough.

**carboncopy**

Why does this feel like marketing that's a couple of decades old? It feels akin to the various "stuff your cart in 5 minutes" shopping sprees of the 80's to me.

**insaniak**

carboncopy wrote:
Why does this feel like marketing that's a couple of decades old? It feels akin to the various "stuff your cart in 5 minutes" shopping sprees of the 80's to me.

GW are stuck in the past with most of their business decisions, so that really shouldn't be surprising.

It's still a cool comp idea, though.

**Scrub**

carboncopy wrote:
Why does this feel like marketing that's a couple of decades old? It feels akin to the various "stuff your cart in 5 minutes" shopping sprees of the 80's to me.

You don't see many competitions like this any more, everything's a bloody ipad 'giveaway' these days! What would you prefer an ipad with all of their dataslates on it instead!?

And the Space Marine not being 8ft is probably because it's cheaper for GW!

**Relapse**

insaniak wrote:
carboncopy wrote:
Why does this feel like marketing that's a couple of decades old? It feels akin to the various "stuff your cart in 5 minutes" shopping sprees of the 80's to me.

GW are stuck in the past with most of their business decisions, so that really shouldn't be surprising.

It's still a cool comp idea, though.

Seriously true. Trouble is, GW is beginning to give stuff away in contests again and people are complaining about the platter it's on.

**agnosto**

Relapse wrote:
insaniak wrote:
carboncopy wrote:
Why does this feel like marketing that's a couple of decades old? It feels akin to the various "stuff your cart in 5 minutes" shopping sprees of the 80's to me.

GW are stuck in the past with most of their business decisions, so that really shouldn't be surprising.

It's still a cool comp idea, though.

Seriously true. Trouble is, GW is beginning to give stuff away in contests again and people are complaining about the platter it's on.

Naw, it's more like people don't care about the gak they're peddling anymore so we're just making fun of them no matter what they do.

**Deadawake1347**

My personal problem with it is the minimum purchase amount to get entered. It just seems like a blatantly obvious way to try and get people to spend a fair chunk of change in the likely vain hope of winning. If they were actually doing it as a promotion I think it would have just been any order between these two dates gets a chance, rather than one that has to be at least $65.

**Bottle**

Wooo this is a nice idea! I would love to win. I would probably get a realm of battle and then one of every terrain kit, fantasy and 40k. And then probably dark vengence, and a 40k army (as I don't play 40k at the moment)... And then any space left over would go on more Empire kits!

**Alpharius**

Medium of Death wrote:
The height of the space marine made me rage a little.

Is everybody in GW HQ a dwarf?

Maybe?

But then again, 1) They don't know their own Fluff well, 2) Everything is canon! and 3) a shorter Space Marine = a smaller prize!

**Verviedi**

Whenever I actually get the money from selling my Guard, I'm going to my local GW, buying a Land Raider, and asking the manager for his "1 Minute Shipping" option.
Because golden tickets.

**nettraper**

think of it what you want, this is pretty solid for "sales"

**Hivefleet Kara'don**

Relapse wrote:

I'll be betting that was quite the celebration when he won that. Do you remember how many boxes that ended up being?

I can't remember off the top of my head head but it was a LOT! I'm sure it was in the hundreds cause if I remember correctly it wasn't just boxes, it was products. So one of each Blister pack etc.

I do remember that it was rether annoying from a gamer point of view as he ended up with things like 1 small unit of Wood elf archers, 3 Dryads, 1 Glade guard, 1 Treeman, and 1 of each special character and dragon. and that was it for an army.

So if he wanted to actually play any of the games/armies he had to go out and spend a load of money to round out the army and he couldn't just ebay what he didn't want as this was in a time before the Internet. (god I sound old lol)

Cara

**Thorgrim Bloodcrow**

That's cool, I hate winning piles of 40K stuff anyway. Not like I want to win any free stuff... >_>

**jamesk1973**

They must be growing more desperate by the moment.

When was the last time Ferrari gave away a car for buying on of theirs?

High end luxury collectibles my ass.

Too many fools will buy into this, followed by another half year blip that will only prolong GWs last few gasps on life support.

Cut the cord. Let them die, no matter how much they beg. It is no longer a matter of them, fixing or improving themselves.

They are no longer worthy to possess their own IP.