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to accompany this old gem;
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/633860.page

Some rules for the inevitable Battle Sister who is supposed to make modern women watch the movie! (The original article was written during an era when women only went to action movies with their boyfriends... We live in a more... 'Enlightened' age). Again, like the Movie Marines, this isn't supposed to represent a 'fluff-compliant' Battle Sister, this is merely intended to represent a female protagonist in a Space Marine movie.

The Battle Sister! (Optional additional Elite choice in a Movie Marines list)

WS 5 BS 7 S4 T4 W2 I4 A3 Ld 10

War gear: Power armour, Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Grenades

special Rules: the Battle Sister is treated as a Space Marine regarding the special rules of the army, except that she does not receive fleet, Move Through Cover, Infiltrate or Auto-Senses. In addition, she has the following special rule;

The Dude Effect: When within 3" of an enemy HQ unit or Independent Character, The Battle Sister is reduced to WS1, BS1 and S1 unless she is in base contact with The Space Marine Dude. She can a under no circumstances be allowed to outshine her male co-star, or guys might not want to watch the movie!

 Furyou Miko wrote:
to accompany this old gem;
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/633860.page

Some rules for the inevitable Battle Sister who is supposed to make modern women watch the movie! (The original article was written during an era when women only went to action movies with their boyfriends... We live in a more... 'Enlightened' age). Again, like the Movie Marines, this isn't supposed to represent a 'fluff-compliant' Battle Sister, this is merely intended to represent a female protagonist in a Space Marine movie.

The Battle Sister! (Optional additional Elite choice in a Movie Marines list)

WS 5 BS 7 S4 T4 W2 I4 A3 Ld 10

War gear: Power armour, Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Grenades

special Rules: the Battle Sister is treated as a Space Marine regarding the special rules of the army, except that she does not receive fleet, Move Through Cover, Infiltrate or Auto-Senses. In addition, she has the following special rule;

The Dude Effect: When within 3" of an enemy HQ unit or Independent Character, The Battle Sister is reduced to WS1, BS1 and S1 unless she is in base contact with The Space Marine Dude. She can a under no circumstances be allowed to outshine her male co-star, or guys might not want to watch the movie!

I can't really discern whether this is really meant as funny haha or funny misandrist passive aggression... hmmm

It's not misandristic in the slightest. If it was misandristic, it would be saying ha ha ha, men suck, womyn are better.

It's poking a little at Hollywood misogyny, just like the original article was with its comments on how The Dude is the guy who always saves the chick, if there was a chick in a movie about Space Marines... but mostly it's a serious set of rules to go with the Movie Marines rules.

Honestly, not everything is a feminist rant.

A battle sister with better accuracy than a run of the mill marine? Unacceptable!!!!!

If we are going for stereotypical hollywood stuff:

She should be able to use Look out Sir! to pass wounds off to the marines. 4+ to regular guys, 2+ to the Dude. Women don’t die in cheezy 80’s action flicks while there are men around to soak bullets.

If she gets killed, the rest of your army should get PE vs. the baddy who killed her.
If the Dude is killed, she gets PE (furious charge? Rage?) vs. the killer

She should have the option to buy a flamer.

kingbobbito wrote:A battle sister with better accuracy than a run of the mill marine? Unacceptable!!!!!

She's got the WS and BS inverted, because she's better at shooting than stabbing. :p

Nevelon wrote:If we are going for stereotypical hollywood stuff:

She should be able to use Look out Sir! to pass wounds off to the marines. 4+ to regular guys, 2+ to the Dude. Women don’t die in cheezy 80’s action flicks while there are men around to soak bullets.

Very true. Not sure how to work this into a ruleset where everyone is an individual... hm.

Look out! If the Battle Sister loses her last wound, on a 4+ she may transfer the wound to a friendly model within 6" as they sacrifice themselves to protect her.

If she gets killed, the rest of your army should get PE vs. the baddy who killed her.
If the Dude is killed, she gets PE (furious charge? Rage?) vs. the killer

Nah, the chick's never allowed to actually achieve anything with her Roaring Rampage. Something like this would make sense though;

Roaring Rampage of Revenge: Should The Battle Sister be slain, all friendly models immediately gain Preferred Enemy against the unit that killed her. If The Dude is killed, The Battle Sister must attempt to engage the unit that killed him in close combat, to the exclusion of all else. She may even assault after running!

She should have the option to buy a flamer.

Are you crazy? Maybe if this was Survival Horror Marines, but it's not, it's Action Movie Marines!

 Furyou Miko wrote:
It's not misandristic in the slightest. If it was misandristic, it would be saying ha ha ha, men suck, womyn are better.

It's poking a little at Hollywood misogyny, just like the original article was with its comments on how The Dude is the guy who always saves the chick, if there was a chick in a movie about Space Marines... but mostly it's a serious set of rules to go with the Movie Marines rules.

Honestly, not everything is a feminist rant.

Aye, I understand your humour. Though I would welcome back some of the essence of the 80s misogyny vibe over the token crap today (in comedy and action)

Heh, I probably have some bent up reservations too that I'm venting. I'm a little tired of the sororitas thread pushers as of late. Eldar players too, as they tend to want their poncy fairy ninjas to be enhanced to an almost over done fiction regarding their superiority - because 'SM's have their stuff, we should too!'. Usually these 'Equality' rebuttals are a matter of those being greedy/myopic and generalizing exceptional elements.

Also, another main reservation I have regarding this humour driven ruleset is more of a cultural one (and yea I'm digressing). For instance, the 'dude' should ideally save the chick; its just the more natural and common thing (opposed to 'modern virtue' where being a dude has a stigma, or need to be countered/equalized with [artificial] chick power).

Furthermore, (yes more digression!) the matter of the taco ratio or role needing to be pointed out from films, and made a spectacle of, makes me wonder if the ones pushing it are:
secretly effeminate and needing to justify their own flaw,
confused and spinning it further,
being overtly goofy,
or a zealot.

Being goofy is what I can relate to.

Heh, I can sympathise with that... at least the eighties movies were honest (and somewhat chivalric) in their misogyny (and one day, I will spell that correctly instead of mysogynistic the first time round)...

You think you're tired of the Sisters pushing for equal acknowledgement? Try being one and being constantly told "No, you can't have nice things, because Space Marines."

I won't argue with your third paragraph because I don't want the thread to devolve into a gender war. Just know that I disagree.

As far as the Furthermore, this is on the goofy side of satire. I am, after all, English, and it's constitutionally impossible for me to send something up without it being a political statement as well. Eve though we don't techically have a costitution. As for being secretly effeminate, I'm a fricken woman (and object to the term 'womyn' on etymological principle!). :p

Now I'm wondering what the flamer would do in a Sisters movie list that was actually a movie starring the Sisters (I don't know, maybe Joss Whedon's in charge, he likes female characters that can murder everything). Presumably torrent and with a better AP than normal flamers.


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 Furyou Miko wrote:
As far as the Furthermore, this is on the goofy side of satire. I am, after all, English, and it's constitutionally impossible for me to send something up without it being a political statement as well. Eve though we don't techically have a costitution. As for being secretly effeminate, I'm a fricken woman (and object to the term 'womyn' on etymological principle!). :p

(A bit of a joke on this one: Wikipedia has an article entitled "Constitution of the United Kingdom" and then in the first sentence tells you that it isn't actually a constitution but a body of laws that Parliament can futz with whenever they feel like it)

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Heh, I can sympathise with that... at least the eighties movies were honestly misogynistic (and one day, I will spell that correctly instead of mysogynistic the first time round)...

You think you're tired of the Sisters pushing for equal acknowledgement? Try being one and being constantly told "No, you can't have nice things, because Space Marines."

I won't argue with your third paragraph because I don't want the thread to devolve into a gender war. Just know that I disagree.

As far as the Furthermore, this is on the goofy side of satire. I am, after all, English, and it's constitutionally impossible for me to send something up without it being a political statement as well. Eve though we don't techically have a costitution. As for being secretly effeminate, I'm a fricken woman (and object to the term 'womyn' on etymological principle!). :p

Lol, yea tis one of the issues that can go on and on in a forum I reckon. Also, please understand, I appreciate British humour greatly

Lastly, I think the use of 'effeminate' typically implies (or is reserved to) a mans condition. I've never heard it said, she's very effeminate; that would be indeed very redundant and obviously wouldn't apply to women.... unless there is something odd going on

Flamers: Probably exactly what it does in the Space Marine one: Hit everything within 24" and line of sight, wounding on a 4+, ignoring armour on a 6, ignores cover, and deals another wound every turn thereafter on a failed save (if a save is made, the ongoing damage stops). Oh, and auto-pens open topped vehicles, but can't hurt enclosed ones.

Effeminate women: Yes, that's my point, I ca't be secretly effeminate if I'm a woman. Well, I guess I could put up a really butch front (as opposed to actually being butch), but that seems a little off topic.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Flamers: Probably exactly what it does in the Space Marine one: Hit everything within 24" and line of sight, wounding on a 4+, ignoring armour on a 6, ignores cover, and deals another wound every turn thereafter on a failed save (if a save is made, the ongoing damage stops). Oh, and auto-pens open topped vehicles, but can't hurt enclosed ones.

Effeminate women: Yes, that's my point, I ca't be secretly effeminate if I'm a woman. Well, I guess I could put up a really butch front (as opposed to actually being butch), but that seems a little off topic.

Usually you hear "feminine" as opposed to "effeminate" for women in the same context.

 Nevelon wrote:
If we are going for stereotypical hollywood stuff:

She should be able to use Look out Sir! to pass wounds off to the marines. 4+ to regular guys, 2+ to the Dude. Women don’t die in cheezy 80’s action flicks while there are men around to soak bullets.

In addition, when a Cinematic Sororita gets reduced to 0 wounds - even after all the Look Out, Sir Madam! rolls - don't remove her from the board. Instead put the model on the side. At the start of your movement phase, a randomly chosen male model within 6' that's still alive must be placed as close to her body as possible. Than the male model must spend it's psychic and shooting phase holding her hand and listening to dramatic stuff like: "I've always loved you!", "Little Timmy is your son!", "Please, take care of my ill younger sister!", etc. At the start of the next turn, remove a dying Cinematic Sororita model. The male one, having listened to such a teary revelation, gains Fleet, Rage, Hatred, Furious Charge, Preferred Enemy, one additional Wound, becomes an indipendent character and gains a word "Bitter" before his model's name in profile.

Slight tweak, koooaei - change "a Cinematic Sororita" should read "The Battle Sister". She's a 0-1 unit in the Movie Marines list, not a list on her own.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Slight tweak, koooaei - change "a Cinematic Sororita" should read "The Battle Sister". She's a 0-1 unit in the Movie Marines list, not a list on her own.

A supplement?

Hehe, we could expand the unit list to create a genderflipped cast for the Survival Horror / Alien(s) version.

Wouldn't be quite so genderised, I guess... maybe

HQ
0-1 Captain (Space Marine or Guard Hero, probably played by someone who looks like a generic US Marine... or Shia LaBeouf)
Elites
0-1 Specialist (Adepta Sororitas heroine, the Sigourney Weaver/Milla Jovovich character, depending on what decade the hypothetical movie was made)
Troops
0-6 Marines (Space Marines), Sororitas (Battle Sisters) or Veterans (Guardsmen)
Fast Attack
0-1 Immolator, Razorback, Rhino or Chimera.
Heavy Support
0-1 Missile Launcher Marine
0-1 Flamer Marine
0-1 Meltagun Sororitas (Who will die, because she's played by Michelle Rodriguez)
0-1 Heavy Bolter Sororitas (Who can only be played by Jenette Goldstein, even if she is in her fifties now)

The next question is where the Inquisitor fits.

 AnomanderRake wrote:
The next question is where the Inquisitor fits.

They run in trios wearing red?

 AnomanderRake wrote:
The next question is where the Inquisitor fits.

He doesn't get game stats, he's back at base.

He'll appear in the sequel when the base is attacked and destroyed though.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:
The next question is where the Inquisitor fits.

He doesn't get game stats, he's back at base.

He'll appear in the sequel when the base is attacked and destroyed though.

Doesn't he have to switch sides in the second act to prove how untrustworthy the eggheads are? At the start of turn four roll a die and the Chaos player gains control of the Inquisitor on a 4+, on turn five it happens automatically.

No, that's his Savant. The Inquisitor is the tragic hero of another story.

What about the resurecting power of the fatefull tear?

In a movie when the good guy gets a beating, the chick will provide long or short distance moral support which send the hero power level to the roof in matter of seconds. It can also heal all his injuries (or it least makes him ignore their effects) and in some extreme cases (with the application of a kiss) can bring a dead hero back to life.

so here are the details: if the hero is reduce to 0 W by an ennemy HQ (movie Warboss, Eldar or Chaos Space Marine) and the Sororitas is still alive roll a d6. On a 4+, the hero is back at half wound rounded up and can reroll all to hit and to wound rolls against the guy that killed him. If the Sororitas was 6 inches or less away the test succed on a 2+. If she was in base contact the test succed immediatly and the hero is restored with all his W.