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So any of your Necrons within 6" of a Stalker get +1 to their BS.
In that almost all of the codex is BS4, by bumping them up to BS5, they're hitting on a 2+
Destroyers have Preferred Enemy (everything).
They will be rerolling 1s.
...
These guys are perfect for each other.

If only there was some way to deep strike the Stalker, I would team them up every game.
For the time being, I'm thinking:
• Regular Destroyers & Heat Ray Stalker for anything within 24"
• Heavy Destroyers & Heavy Gauss Cannon Stalker for anything further away/vehicle sniping.

Now I just gotta figure out what else I want to add to fill out the rest of my points.

(Not sure if it's worth trying to mix the Destroyer Cult and Justicar Decurion formations, though. They seem to be geared toward doing two different things)

Just take a normal cad fill the elites with 2 to 4 Triarch Stalkers, then take 9 H. Destroyers and then like 3 units of Wraiths.

Like so


1-2 Destroyer lords

Elites

1- 3 Triarch Stalkers
Troops

2 Immortal Squads

F Attack

1 Unit of Wraiths

1 Unit of Wraiths

1 Unit of Tomb Blades

H. Support

9 H. Destroyers.

B-but, vulnerability to flyers!
D:
I gotta leave room for some Scythes

If you want to keep Nightscythes in the army, here's one that I've thought up. It has some issues, and costs a boatload of real money, but it could be fun.

For an 1850 level game.
CAD
Base Cryptek
3x5 Gauss Immortals in Nightscythes
1x2 Base Triarch Stalkers
3x6 Tomb Blades w/ 3+, Ignores Cover, Particle Beamers (Ignores Cover S6 AP5 Blasts are fine when you have 18 of them)
3x3 Heavy Destroyers.

The list has absolutely no defense against fast melee, so some of the shooting should probably be put into assault. An option could be to drop one of the NS squads, the Stalkers, and mix TB numbers around to fit a Judicator Battalion in, as that would give you the Stalkers back, some counterassault in the Praetorians, and the Formation bonus as a freebie.

Take the Destroyer Cult and enjoy re-rolling to hit AND to wound

Heavy Destroyers would probably already be wounding most things on a 2+, so they wouldn't need the Cult bonus that much, but I guess against MCs it'd still be handy.

Twin Linked Weapons and BS5 = Good, no?

What in the Necron codex is twin-linked?

Twin linked weapons (or just rerolling 1's) + bs5 = bs10

Destroyers are alright, but having to purchase 9 of them to get 3 H. Destroyers is gross. even though I like the formation a lot. Destroyer cult is like that game in high school you really really liked but inevitably led to you are your friends not speaking to each other for like 3 weeks.

I've been planning to do an army of the Destroyer Cult and Judicator formation. Having 4+ WBB is nice compared to 5+, but at the same time I like Destroyers too much to let the Reclamation take up room.

I think this would be the most annoying thing to play against.

HQ
Destroyer Lord w/ Warscythe , Phase Shifter

Illuminor Szeras

Elites

1 Triarch Stalker w/ H. Gauss Cannon

1 Triarch Stalker w/ H. Gauss Cannon

Flayed Ones however many you want.

Troops

5 Immortals with Nightscythe or whatever

Fast Attack
1 Destroyer H. Destroyer

1 Destroyer H. Destroyer

1 Destroyer H. Destroyer

H. Support

1 Destroyer H. Destroyer

1 Destroyer H. Destroyer

1 Destroyer H. Destroyer


Destroyer Cult

Destroyer Lord Warscythe , Phase Shifter

3 Destroyers

3 Destroyers

3 Destroyers

3 H. Destroyers


Aegis Defense line with Quad Gun

Enjoy shooting at 6 individual H. Destroyers behind a Aegis Line within 6 Inches of Szeras who's buddied up with 3 H. Destroyers and is getting Preferred Enemy from them. Meanwhile 2 Destroyer Lords and a huge squad of Flayed Ones have teleported into your backfield.

Added bonus if you just want to be a dick and give one of the Destroyer Lords the Orb that gives them +1 Res Protocols and can activate to let them all reroll it, then give the other Destroyer Lord a Res Orb as well. No one is going to charge a unit with 2 Destroyer lords and 10 to 20 Flayed ones.

Hollismason wrote:

Spoiler:

I think this would be the most annoying thing to play against.

HQ
Destroyer Lord w/ Warscythe , Phase Shifter

Illuminor Szeras

Elites

1 Triarch Stalker w/ H. Gauss Cannon

1 Triarch Stalker w/ H. Gauss Cannon

Flayed Ones however many you want.

Troops

5 Immortals with Nightscythe or whatever

Fast Attack
1 Destroyer H. Destroyer

1 Destroyer H. Destroyer

1 Destroyer H. Destroyer

H. Support

1 Destroyer H. Destroyer

1 Destroyer H. Destroyer

1 Destroyer H. Destroyer


Destroyer Cult

Destroyer Lord Warscythe , Phase Shifter

3 Destroyers

3 Destroyers

3 Destroyers

3 H. Destroyers


Aegis Defense line with Quad Gun

Enjoy shooting at 6 individual H. Destroyers behind a Aegis Line within 6 Inches of Szeras who's buddied up with 3 H. Destroyers and is getting Preferred Enemy from them. Meanwhile 2 Destroyer Lords and a huge squad of Flayed Ones have teleported into your backfield.

Added bonus if you just want to be a dick and give one of the Destroyer Lords the Orb that gives them +1 Res Protocols and can activate to let them all reroll it, then give the other Destroyer Lord a Res Orb as well. No one is going to charge a unit with 2 Destroyer lords and 10 to 20 Flayed ones.

I really like this list, but... how would Szeras be getting PE? He's an independent character, I thought they couldn't gain USRs when they join units?

Hollismason wrote:
Destroyers are alright, but having to purchase 9 of them to get 3 H. Destroyers is gross. even though I like the formation a lot. Destroyer cult is like that game in high school you really really liked but inevitably led to you are your friends not speaking to each other for like 3 weeks.

Use normal Necron CAD and bring Judicator and Destroyer formations. S9 AP2, as pointed out by skoffs, don't need the To Wound/Pen re-roll anyway, in most cases - but they'll benefit from the +1 BS

not sure where you are getting twin linked/re-roll to hit from. Destroyer cult does not grant that.

for PE if an unit contains at least one model with PE then the unit has PE.

 skoffs wrote:
Heavy Destroyers would probably already be wounding most things on a 2+, so they wouldn't need the Cult bonus that much, but I guess against MCs it'd still be handy.

Destroyer Cult also allows you to re-roll failed armour pens.

Man I ran this exact list today, Triarchs, Immortals and destroyers with Szeras and crypteks and I literally lost 5 models the entire game, with my opponent (Dark Eldar) almost tabled by turn 5. It makes a really amazing gun line.

 skoffs wrote:

Hollismason wrote:

Spoiler:

I think this would be the most annoying thing to play against.

HQ
Destroyer Lord w/ Warscythe , Phase Shifter

Illuminor Szeras

Elites

1 Triarch Stalker w/ H. Gauss Cannon

1 Triarch Stalker w/ H. Gauss Cannon

Flayed Ones however many you want.

Troops

5 Immortals with Nightscythe or whatever

Fast Attack
1 Destroyer H. Destroyer

1 Destroyer H. Destroyer

1 Destroyer H. Destroyer

H. Support

1 Destroyer H. Destroyer

1 Destroyer H. Destroyer

1 Destroyer H. Destroyer


Destroyer Cult

Destroyer Lord Warscythe , Phase Shifter

3 Destroyers

3 Destroyers

3 Destroyers

3 H. Destroyers


Aegis Defense line with Quad Gun

Enjoy shooting at 6 individual H. Destroyers behind a Aegis Line within 6 Inches of Szeras who's buddied up with 3 H. Destroyers and is getting Preferred Enemy from them. Meanwhile 2 Destroyer Lords and a huge squad of Flayed Ones have teleported into your backfield.

Added bonus if you just want to be a dick and give one of the Destroyer Lords the Orb that gives them +1 Res Protocols and can activate to let them all reroll it, then give the other Destroyer Lord a Res Orb as well. No one is going to charge a unit with 2 Destroyer lords and 10 to 20 Flayed ones.

I really like this list, but... how would Szeras be getting PE? He's an independent character, I thought they couldn't gain USRs when they join units?

No if one model has preferred enemy anyone in the unit gains it from the way I understand it.



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 daBIGboss wrote:
Man I ran this exact list today, Triarchs, Immortals and destroyers with Szeras and crypteks and I literally lost 5 models the entire game, with my opponent (Dark Eldar) almost tabled by turn 5. It makes a really amazing gun line.

Post dat list.

Hollismason wrote:
No if one model has preferred enemy anyone in the unit gains it from the way I understand it.

Huh, I remember trying to add an IC to a unit that had some ability in the early days of 7th and being told, no, ICs with certain USRs that join units will be able to pass that ability onto the unit, but not the other way around (ICs without USRs that join units that do have those USRs do not gain them).
I'll take your word for it, but I'm probably going to have to look it up later to show people when this comes up when I try it... because I think I will definitely be trying it).

Judicator and Destroyer Cult seem made for each other, but Canoptek Harvest doesn't seem 100% required if you're already running the other two.
I mean,
You'll have AV, MEQ and TEQ covered no problem. Between the two of them, they might be able to handle MCs, too. It's Horde and Flyers that might pose a problem.
Just add some Night Scythes instead of Wraits and friends?

I'm pretty sure that rule is just for infiltrate but since I'm sans book right this moment I'll double check when I get home.

The Destroyer Cult really needs some CC units with it because you need to keep pressure on the opponent while you just shoot at them with impunity from the backfield.

blaktoof wrote:

not sure where you are getting twin linked/re-roll to hit from. Destroyer cult does not grant that.

Destroyers are BS4
Triarch Stalkers give units within 6" +1BS
Destroyers have Preferred Enemy

So they're now effectively BS10, re-rolling all misses. Or twin-inked, same thing technically

 skoffs wrote:

Hollismason wrote:
No if one model has preferred enemy anyone in the unit gains it from the way I understand it.

Huh, I remember trying to add an IC to a unit that had some ability in the early days of 7th and being told, no, ICs with certain USRs that join units will be able to pass that ability onto the unit, but not the other way around (ICs without USRs that join units that do have those USRs do not gain them).
I'll take your word for it, but I'm probably going to have to look it up later to show people when this comes up when I try it... because I think I will definitely be trying it).

IC's do not gain the special rule, that is important for stuff like Furious Charge.
An IC joining a unit with FC does not gain FC itself and an IC with FC does not give FC to the unit.

But the IC never gets PE, it's just that PE on any model in the unit allows the entire unit to re-roll 1's because of its wording.
So while the IC doesn't have PE himself, he still gets to re-roll 1's since he is part of the unit.

Kangodo wrote:

 skoffs wrote:

Hollismason wrote:
No if one model has preferred enemy anyone in the unit gains it from the way I understand it.

Huh, I remember trying to add an IC to a unit that had some ability in the early days of 7th and being told, no, ICs with certain USRs that join units will be able to pass that ability onto the unit, but not the other way around (ICs without USRs that join units that do have those USRs do not gain them).
I'll take your word for it, but I'm probably going to have to look it up later to show people when this comes up when I try it... because I think I will definitely be trying it).

IC's do not gain the special rule, that is important for stuff like Furious Charge.
An IC joining a unit with FC does not gain FC itself and an IC with FC does not give FC to the unit.

But the IC never gets PE, it's just that PE on any model in the unit allows the entire unit to re-roll 1's because of its wording.
So while the IC doesn't have PE himself, he still gets to re-roll 1's since he is part of the unit.

That's probably what the confusion was. Cool! Looks like this might work after all.

As for CC defense for the Destroyers, that's where a unit of 10+ Flayed Ones with an attached D.Lord come in handy! (no one in their right minds would want to get into combat with that).

Yeah I was pretty sure I remember it did.

What's great about Illuminor though is that he is BS5 , so yea thats a Preferred Enemy BS6 if he's near a Triarch ( he doesn't need it) , ST8 AP2 Lance , with 36 inch range, which matches the Destroyers range.

Hrmm. Gonna go make a YMDC real quick cause I wonder if the Destroyer Cult rules would apply to him.

Made the thread :

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/634859.page#7575079

That would be a really amazing combo if he gets the bonus. A Lance that get's to reroll armour penetration? Yes, please.