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Wow. I need to save that for later. Well said, Az.

Seems as likely as Squats vs. Malal.

Will probably be Space Marines vs. Nurgle.

 Azreal13 wrote:

Judging you for supplying information from other sources is exactly the same as is done to the likes of Natfka. He gets cross at Pretre for hitting him with so many Falses, but if he is going to make those sources "anonymous" then he shifts the onus on to him to act as gatekeeper for the information supplied to him under this restriction, and then it becomes about his ability to discern legitimate info from blatant trolling, something he's earned a solid reputation for being unable to do (or is willing to sacrifice the integrity of his reporting in exchange for clicks - potayto, potahto.)

Except, you know, I actually differentiated the fact that this was a different source meaning that you can't apply the same metrics to it that you would the previous one.

 Azreal13 wrote:
You, by reporting what you hear from other sources, are placing yourself in the same position. It is now not about the veracity of the rumours, but your ability to filter what is good info from what is not. You've apparently attached your cart to the wrong horse on more than one occasion previously, so those of us with no idea who your source about Sisters is, have nothing to go on but your track record for picking a sound source.

And again, this isn't the same source and I didn't report "a bunch of times" but instead had one group of rumors that didn't pan out. Seriously, don't make accusations without all the facts.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Now, if the position was reversed, and I had told you stuff on multiple occasions that hadn't panned out, but was insisting "no, but this time it's different" what would you be inclined to think?

One occasion, not multiple. Again, don't go crying foul when you apparently don't even know what happened.

 Azreal13 wrote:
If this source really is different, and you sincerely believe in it, then stand behind it, time will, after all, prove you right. But if you don't want to be on the receiving end of skepticism, and your faith in your source isn't total, perhaps, yes, it's best to keep things under your hat, at least perhaps until there's something around that corroborates it.

Pretre should be know why I actually have faith in this source as I PM'd about it and filled in the details. I'm not dumping that on a public forum but the person I PM'd should be able to tell one source from another, especially when they're aware of where this source's credentials lie.

 Azreal13 wrote:

It is now not about the veracity of the rumours, but your ability to filter what is good info from what is not.

Judging the veracity and what is a good and bad info to rumors is entirely subject to one's own personal opinion regardless of the source they come from. Because last time I put too much faith in SoB plastic model rumors we ended up with the WD codex.

However if we ever get the SoB plastic models and various parts of the models match the rumored descriptions of the plastics we have gotten over the years it will be quite hilarious because who ever dose the rumor tracking will have to back track and mark all of those false rumors as true. At the most I will have faith in that a new SoB codex might have the potential to be out this year and I will not put any faith in the plastic model rumors till I have them in hand.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Except, you know, I actually differentiated the fact that this was a different source meaning that you can't apply the same metrics to it that you would the previous one.

The point is that the metric is being applied to "YOUR" rumormongering.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Pretre should be know why I actually have faith in this source as I PM'd about it and filled in the details. I'm not dumping that on a public forum but the person I PM'd should be able to tell one source from another, especially when they're aware of where this source's credentials lie.

Again, we only have your track record to go off of. If I posted 100 rumors and they were all false, would you suddenly believe me when I told you my 101st rumor was from a reliable source, this time? No really, this time I got it from a guy who really knows!

Personally, I'm done with believing anything about the SoB until I see it. At this point it's kind of like seeing Bretonnians in ET books and assuming that this must lead to new rules and models. Actually, it's worse than that....

 Plokoone wrote:
Seems as likely as Squats vs. Malal.

Will probably be Space Marines vs. Nurgle.

In all fairness the odds of Squats coming back aren't technically 0. They're equal to the odds of me winning several hundred million in the lottery then deciding that i have nothing better to do with the money than buy GW.

I don't doubt there will be another campaign, so 2 books plus one boxed set, in the summer - timing seems about right post Blood Angels vs 'Nids.

I also don't doubt that Daemons would be the protagonist in the campaign, with the plastic Blood Thirster soon and Daemons due a 7th Edition Codex Summer would also make sense.

However the boxes which form part 2 of the campaign so far have been a way of selling off at a discount existing plastic models with 2 new characters.

I don't think we will ever see brand new or recently released plastics appearing in the campaign box so I doubt Sisters will be the main protagonists in the campaign.

Doesn't mean they won't be in the campaign, after all they appeared in Shield of Baal but we didn't get new models.

I would hazard a guess that Daemons will be the big release so will make up the bulk of the campaign's releases and that possibly Grey Knights will be the other plastics in the box - so generic GKs, GK Dread, special character vs generic Daemons with special character.

I suspect this will coincide with 7th Edition Daemons Codex which means yes probably other plastic Greater Daemons alongside too.

However I doubt a full Sisters release for this, they certainly wouldn't be the plastics in the boxed set.

Would love to be proved wrong though.

 plastictrees wrote:
Would be a shift in GWs approach to the campaign boxes. But the two we've had may have only been testing the water using mostly existing minis.
A box that includes two factions with almost entirely new minis, could sell like crazy, and would get SoB fans to pick up Tzeentch minis and vice versa.

I've really liked the campaign books/boxes so Im hoping this is at least partly true.

Second that. Actually, making campaign boxes with new units with no separate kit (or only older kits available as standalones) would force people who want that stuff to buy the expensvie big box instead of just a smaller kit. That is one type of malpractice I would definitely assume GW capable of. Combine old. ill-selling kits with a couple of new models and voila, instant sales...

SoB vs Tzeentch would actually not be too bad of a set, considering both armies have invulnerable saves. It's pretty hard to showcase two armies when you have one side making roll after roll, and another side just picking up models. (see: SM w/ Terminators + Dreads vs Orks in t-shirts)

This would mean all your models would at least be rolling something in defense, and hopefully seem a less lopsided intro for new gamers. (Assuming, of course, that GW stores even still do demo games with these sets; I haven't been to a GW store in years.)

As much as I desperately want this to be true... it's about Tzeentch. Overall, Tzeentch always gets the epic shaft from GW at every turn.

From Natfka's comments section:

nightfury wrote:
I can gurantee plastic kits for adeptus sororitas will be released within the next 18 months.. the molds are finished and production is already underway

Nightfury - Total rumors: (6 TRUE) / (2 FALSE)

A year and a half is a pretty large window...

 Sinful Hero wrote:
A year and a half is a pretty large window...

When you're talking about one model release in the last 15+ years, not really.

 pretre wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:
A year and a half is a pretty large window...

When you're talking about one model release in the last 15+ years, not really.

Can't really argue with that I guess.

 Plokoone wrote:
Seems as likely as Squats vs. Malal.

Will probably be Space Marines vs. Nurgle.

A campign featuring Sisters again is actually not very unlikely given their huge presence in Sheld of Baal

Rules is only a hope at the moment.

Models is alot less likely but not impossible.

Squats were mentioned in 6th ed rulebook - Malal not so much

Those are pretty strong words from a (fairly) accurate source. "Guarantee" is the sort of thing that a rumor-monger needs to use sparingly, as those proven false do just that much more harm to a reputation.

So... IF IF IF that is indeed truth....

... hnnnnggg..... my heart.

If this box set release does turn out to be true, I'm definitely picking up at least 1!

And of course, a shiny new plastic wiz-chicken

I think that's (IF true) much more suggestive that Sisters will not feature as minis in any forthcoming box set,

rather they will have a (significant) part in the story just offscreen of the box set's actual contents thus maintaining or boosting their image in advance of a new plastic set up further down the line

(and the better the harlequins do the sooner the plastic sisters will appear as GW sees people buying into these 'old and strange' mini lines)

Surely by this point Natfka's record is such that any given outcome actually becomes less probable when his site reports it as rumour?

Besides, my money's still on the next starter boxed set pitting Zuvassin-worshipping Squats on jet-boards vs. Space Lizardmen.

 Lord of Misrule wrote:
Surely by this point Natfka's record is such that any given outcome actually becomes less probable when his site reports it as rumour?

Besides, my money's still on the next starter boxed set pitting Zuvassin-worshipping Squats on jet-boards vs. Space Lizardmen.

Given the "exodus" of the Lizardmen in Thanquol, I'm not ruling that out, at this point.

 Lord of Misrule wrote:
Surely by this point Natfka's record is such that any given outcome actually becomes less probable when his site reports it as rumour?

Not quite. His is about even up. Any given outcome is 50/50 when he says it. Just flip a coin.

 pretre wrote:

 Lord of Misrule wrote:
Surely by this point Natfka's record is such that any given outcome actually becomes less probable when his site reports it as rumour?

Not quite. His is about even up. Any given outcome is 50/50 when he says it. Just flip a coin.

Ah, true enough, actually.

But if I turn out to be on the money with my pretend Lizardmen rumour, then I will be, on paper, as accurate as he is.

Experiment 626 wrote:
As much as I desperately want this to be true... it's about Tzeentch. Overall, Tzeentch always gets the epic shaft from GW at every turn.

I don't know... An army made up of models with 2 wounds has a lot going for it...

Sadly, I don't believe it. But it would be a good way to part me with a few hundred bucks.

Anyway, more info.

This was a day or so ago, but nightfury in his comments on the site (he has had some particular good insight in the past) has mentioned the the moulds for the Adeptas Sororitas are done and production has started. This is a big deal, although it doesn't give us a release time frame. Done models can sit for quite some time in a warehouse, but it does give us a little more hope that we will see the Sister's of Battle sometime soon.

With the recent rumors from Bols that a summer campaign will include Sisters of Battle and Tzeentch, and nightfury's comments a release is looking very good for this summer.

please remember that these are rumors at this point.

via Nightfury on Faeit 212
I can guarantee plastic kits for adeptus sororitas will be released within the next 18 months.. the molds are finished and production is already underway

Wouldn't it make more sense to have SoBs v. Necrons in a boxed campaign set based on the Sanctuary 101 incident?

I would love to see that.

Especially as I already collect Necrons and have Sisters' vehicles.

There is some Tzeentch stuff coming later this year, but it's not for 40k.

Dark Angels will be getting updated later in the year with a new plastic kit, alongside a clampack character. Daemons are also getting updated with a slightly bigger release. (Harlequin sized IIRC)

I saw the mock up of the canoness cruiser on the salt flats

Yep i really believe this rumor

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
I saw the mock up of the canoness cruiser on the salt flats

Spoiler:

Yep i really believe this rumor

This is supposed to be the new Penitent Engine. Stick someone in it on those salt flats and they will be for sure Penitent!

So I noticed this art was posted in the Harlequin thread. The Sorcerer is the same design as is Ahriman. All the T-Sons seem to have power swords though so maybe it's a hint at what's to come?