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There's something deeply disturbing about what you just said.

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From my own experience, the most disturbing things I know actually happened.
Reality can be stranger than fiction.
Gaming is a hobby, it is something we feel strongly about, strong feelings lead to actions: lord knows where it would take us from there... all we can do is hope no alcohol was involved.

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 purplefood wrote:
There's something deeply disturbing about what you just said.


Which part - the women ambushing a man on the way home from the bar and beating him senseless?

From what I understand, that used to happen (and might still) in some very small Iberian (and possibly other places as well) communities - if the victim was a known wife beater.
   
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And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

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Eumerin wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
There's something deeply disturbing about what you just said.


Which part - the women ambushing a man on the way home from the bar and beating him senseless?

From what I understand, that used to happen (and might still) in some very small Iberian (and possibly other places as well) communities - if the victim was a known wife beater.

Not that, I think it was more the way I read your post than anything.

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I dunno if it's relevent, but i find the gaming thing has got progressively worse.

I bought an xbox one, worst pos ever. Hardware is bad, Ui is so slow to the extent of finding out which of your friends online takes a minute of hanging. No options for anything, settings are so minimal. No dvd upscaling. I have a decent surround reciever to which i had to buy an analog mixer just so i can talk to friends.

Destiny was a bad joke, Halo is loosing it's soul, MCC is wrecked, every franchise i loved turned bad.

Playstation 2 slim, best console. Plays ps1 games, dvds, it's tiny and quiet, and has ethernet and optical.

At least gaming is cheap compared to GW.
   
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 eskimo wrote:
I dunno if it's relevent, but i find the gaming thing has got progressively worse.

I bought an xbox one, worst pos ever. Hardware is bad, Ui is so slow to the extent of finding out which of your friends online takes a minute of hanging. No options for anything, settings are so minimal. No dvd upscaling. I have a decent surround reciever to which i had to buy an analog mixer just so i can talk to friends.

Destiny was a bad joke, Halo is loosing it's soul, MCC is wrecked, every franchise i loved turned bad.

Playstation 2 slim, best console. Plays ps1 games, dvds, it's tiny and quiet, and has ethernet and optical.

At least gaming is cheap compared to GW.


I've always preferred Playstation, and, IMO, the PS4 doesn't disappoint. I always read the various back end, "techy" stuff and how much engineering went into systems, and Playstation has ALWAYS impressed me. It is, IMHO an embarrassment to Microsoft, or should be, what they've put to market with XBox One. From your description, and that of many of my own friends, it makes me wonder how much longer MS can keep up their "efforts" in the console game. Yeah, I know they have a solid share, but, at least most of the people that I personally know are actually going down to various game shops, turning in their Xboxes in favor of Playstations.


One nitpick though.... did Halo ever have a soul?? lol.


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I'm in my thirties, I don't see how "gaming culture" affects anybody my age frankly.

I only hear or read about it on the rare occasions I stick my head in on dakka these days, the whole Anita Sarkeesian thing I would have been blissfully unaware of if I didn't come on here.

I go to work, exercise, read, write, paint, go to comedy clubs, drink heavily, and in amongst all that, play video games maybe 6-10 hours a week.

I chat to my friends about them in the pub, and perhaps read the occasional review on the steam community or Metacritic if I am going to buy something, but really, why does the "community" even need to bother you? Just ignore it and enjoy your hobby.

Honestly, I dont even know if there is such a thing as "gaming culture" in this day and age. Most people play games, its a little part of everyones lives. I think everyone I know occasionally drinks a few tinnies and plays the Xbox or does an hour on an RTS before bed, but why and where does a "culture" come into it?

I suspect that "gaming culture" is really "trendy, youthful people with dyed hair and piercings culture" because I know about a hundred people who play games, but don't listen to "gaming" podcasts, watch "gaming" Youtubers, or read "gaming" magazines.

If this gak bugs you, play games at home with your mates and ignore the whole "culture" thing.

Just like I do.

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I find that my interest in gaming/nerd culture is directly inverse of what's going with my romantic life. If you're single then all the gaming interests take forefront and you obsess over the dumbest stuff, why isn't X happening, sever's being ganky, verbal wars over systems, etc. But when I'm out at the clubs or dating somebody where sex is involved my attitude is like what's a video game? Who cares about minor issue X, I'm going out and getting some tail tonight! I think that most people get wrapped up in games or other hobbies as deeply as they do because they are filling in for other areas of their life where they are unhappy and using games as a coping mechanism. (be it work or love life they are feeling deficient somewhere) In order to deal with life's stresses some people drink, some people use drugs, some people play games, the more unhappy they are with their lifepath the deeper they tend to push with their coping choice.

Videos games are meant to be a fun way to relax, and as much as I love them when it becomes an obsessive part of life you need to take a break get laid and suddenly all the "problems" with gaming are suddenly insignificant. When your life is in balance and you have other outlets for enjoyment "gaming culture" tends to be pretty low on the list of things to be concerned with.

Ever notice how quickly guys disappear when they find somebody they are serious about, or when they get married? It's not just because their wives have them on lock down, most of them move onto more important stuff. The guys who are usually the most obsessive gamers are usually single, some are married but are using gaming as their escape their life at home. Guys who have active social lives and are out dating tend not to be hanging out at games stores or putting in much time with online gaming.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Sometimes I feel it is enough to stop gaming. First is the farce that is game journalism, the idea that these are somehow not all bought out by people.
And then comes the PC master race and console wars.
And then comes in those horrible gamer gate and Anita saarkeesion debacles that just seem old and out of date already.
the righteousness and blindness of gamers that refuse to acknowledge the problems with gaming?
It just feels stupId sometimes.
Why do we get caught up in this culture war and stuff and why can't we enjoy gaming?

That's not gaming problems so much as the internet is a cesspool and brings out the absolute worst in people.

And guess which kind of community uses the internet the most?

Also none of that affects your personal ability to play video games, aside from having to deal with idiots in multiplayer games but we've been dealing with that ever since online multiplayer became a reality.

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 Polonius wrote:
 dementedwombat wrote:
Is "gaming culture" even a thing anymore? I kind of thought it has gotten to the point that so many people play video games that "playing video games" isn't really enough of a niche to hang a cultural identity on.


Despairing the end of gamer culture is a pretty big factor in gamer culture, actually.

Rant time:

Here's the problem. For about 20 years, from the first Video game crash of 1983 through the mid 2000s, video gamers were mostly kids and what we'll charitably call individuals in the social hinterlands. In other words, losers.

As gaming gains more and more mainstream acceptance, a lot of gamer types are realizing a horrible truth: they're not losers because they play games. They're just losers, and they happen to play games. Now, just because their losers doesn't mean they want to accept that. They've blamed external forces for so long, that they cannot accept that the problem is them.

That's why hard core, fedora and trench coat wearing Gamer Culture is so toxic. These are people that lived under the delusion that their alienation and marginalization was due to their hobby. That gak simply ain't true, not when you've got frat boys playing Xbox and Homecoming queens that play WOW. But they can't handle it. They want gaming (and nerd culture in general) to go back to being niche, so at least they can pretend to be normal sized fish in a small pond.




I'm not going to lie; that's a pretty terrible viewpoint and attitude. You've taken at a conservative estimate tens of thousands of people and unilaterally declared them to be losers beyond redemption, incapable of being anything but. I have to assume that this is an overly simplified version of your viewpoint spawned by your dislike of the gamergate thing.... but c'mon man. That whole post was just bad and spiteful. It's not like you have to be some kind of gakky loser as you posit to somehow not want something you love to change. That's pretty much bog standard normal human behavior. Gamers aren't some sort of extra special kind of evil.
   
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 paulson games wrote:


Ever notice how quickly guys disappear when they find somebody they are serious about, or when they get married? It's not just because their wives have them on lock down, most of them move onto more important stuff. The guys who are usually the most obsessive gamers are usually single, some are married but are using gaming as their escape their life at home. Guys who have active social lives and are out dating tend not to be hanging out at games stores or putting in much time with online gaming.


I'm part of an older gaming community, i'm the youngest, single, and play the least it seems, atm anyway. The majority of the members are married with kids. They are also american and european too. Your statement i think is just guesswork. There's plenty of people who are single and do lots of sport or spend a lot the pub/ bar.

I'd be happy to play video games over tabletop, just video games in the current generation i don't find that fun. And to be honest, i find it impressive/ suprising how good modellers with families find the time for such impressive work.


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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
 eskimo wrote:
I dunno if it's relevent, but i find the gaming thing has got progressively worse.

I bought an xbox one, worst pos ever. Hardware is bad, Ui is so slow to the extent of finding out which of your friends online takes a minute of hanging. No options for anything, settings are so minimal. No dvd upscaling. I have a decent surround reciever to which i had to buy an analog mixer just so i can talk to friends.

Destiny was a bad joke, Halo is loosing it's soul, MCC is wrecked, every franchise i loved turned bad.

Playstation 2 slim, best console. Plays ps1 games, dvds, it's tiny and quiet, and has ethernet and optical.

At least gaming is cheap compared to GW.


I've always preferred Playstation, and, IMO, the PS4 doesn't disappoint. I always read the various back end, "techy" stuff and how much engineering went into systems, and Playstation has ALWAYS impressed me. It is, IMHO an embarrassment to Microsoft, or should be, what they've put to market with XBox One. From your description, and that of many of my own friends, it makes me wonder how much longer MS can keep up their "efforts" in the console game. Yeah, I know they have a solid share, but, at least most of the people that I personally know are actually going down to various game shops, turning in their Xboxes in favor of Playstations.


One nitpick though.... did Halo ever have a soul?? lol.


And you got no argument from me on gaming being cheap in comparison to GW


If it weren't for Halo, i'd have another PS. I had a PS3 and it was great before it broke, better than my 360. PS also has Final Fantasy 10 HD and i prefer the controller for non-fps gaming.

Halo's soul i refer to was the multiplayer. Moon like jumping, tricks jumps, fun glitches, great custom games, explosion only gametypes, vehicle racing, jumping, driving up walls and off cliffs. Sniper games, zombies, strange bomb and ctf games, maps that are platformer challenges, elimination types, the list is endless.
I know you were joking but to a lot of people Halo sold the xbox one to them, on forums and Facebook you see people saying they have/ will sell their console because of the Halo problem, it's nuts. And i feel the same, my console gets played for 2 hours a week at most.

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I'm not going to lie; that's a pretty terrible viewpoint and attitude. You've taken at a conservative estimate tens of thousands of people and unilaterally declared them to be losers beyond redemption, incapable of being anything but. I have to assume that this is an overly simplified version of your viewpoint spawned by your dislike of the gamergate thing.... but c'mon man. That whole post was just bad and spiteful. It's not like you have to be some kind of gakky loser as you posit to somehow not want something you love to change. That's pretty much bog standard normal human behavior. Gamers aren't some sort of extra special kind of evil.


I didn't say that they were losers beyond redemption, but that they were losers that don't want to do the hard work of redeeming themselves.

You're absolutely right in that gamers aren't special in that (or any regard), but that's part of my point: being a gamer doesn't make you special. They're just frustrated people that have very little power or influence, so that turns toxic in how they view "outsiders" to gaming. It's not my bad attitude that makes online gaming insanely intolerant to anybody that's not a white guy, or that sees themselves as somehow the victims of a market that brings them more and better gaming choices than ever before (at lower prices, adjusted for inflation!)



   
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 Polonius wrote:
 dementedwombat wrote:
Is "gaming culture" even a thing anymore? I kind of thought it has gotten to the point that so many people play video games that "playing video games" isn't really enough of a niche to hang a cultural identity on.


Despairing the end of gamer culture is a pretty big factor in gamer culture, actually.

Rant time:

Here's the problem. For about 20 years, from the first Video game crash of 1983 through the mid 2000s, video gamers were mostly kids and what we'll charitably call individuals in the social hinterlands. In other words, losers.

As gaming gains more and more mainstream acceptance, a lot of gamer types are realizing a horrible truth: they're not losers because they play games. They're just losers, and they happen to play games. Now, just because their losers doesn't mean they want to accept that. They've blamed external forces for so long, that they cannot accept that the problem is them.

That's why hard core, fedora and trench coat wearing Gamer Culture is so toxic. These are people that lived under the delusion that their alienation and marginalization was due to their hobby. That gak simply ain't true, not when you've got frat boys playing Xbox and Homecoming queens that play WOW. But they can't handle it. They want gaming (and nerd culture in general) to go back to being niche, so at least they can pretend to be normal sized fish in a small pond.




I think that's kind of a steep assumption. For the longest time, if you read books you were a loser. I think saying that people are mad because they're still losers and have nothing to blame it on is a rather poor and crass hypothesis. Rather, I'd propose that people are struggling to deal with a community that has so rapidly evolved from what it was.

Books, music, and cinema have had plenty of time to evolve and mature without causing stimulus overload. Sports have also had a relatively long time. But in contrast, think about video games. Try playing Super Mario Bros. or Duck Hunt and then go play the newest Call of Duty. The change is literally astounding.

There are still elitist asshats in the gaming community, but that applies to literally any hobby.

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 eskimo wrote:
I dunno if it's relevent, but i find the gaming thing has got progressively worse.

I bought an xbox one, worst pos ever. Hardware is bad, Ui is so slow to the extent of finding out which of your friends online takes a minute of hanging. No options for anything, settings are so minimal. No dvd upscaling. I have a decent surround reciever to which i had to buy an analog mixer just so i can talk to friends.

Destiny was a bad joke, Halo is loosing it's soul, MCC is wrecked, every franchise i loved turned bad.

Playstation 2 slim, best console. Plays ps1 games, dvds, it's tiny and quiet, and has ethernet and optical.

At least gaming is cheap compared to GW.


I don't know if quality has gone down, just it's focus; With earlier gaming systems, it was Games. Period. Now, so much time and money is being put into online shops, Netflix deals, and similar in order to be a worse computer instead of just focusing on why people buy consoles in the first place; the games. Just seems kinda odd to me.

It's probably why League of Legends has grown to be a huge worldwide phenomenon while Microsft, EA, Sony, and Nintendo only dream of sharing space with them; LoL focuses only on the game, not on all this extra crap.

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 Slarg232 wrote:
 eskimo wrote:
I dunno if it's relevent, but i find the gaming thing has got progressively worse.

I bought an xbox one, worst pos ever. Hardware is bad, Ui is so slow to the extent of finding out which of your friends online takes a minute of hanging. No options for anything, settings are so minimal. No dvd upscaling. I have a decent surround reciever to which i had to buy an analog mixer just so i can talk to friends.

Destiny was a bad joke, Halo is loosing it's soul, MCC is wrecked, every franchise i loved turned bad.

Playstation 2 slim, best console. Plays ps1 games, dvds, it's tiny and quiet, and has ethernet and optical.

At least gaming is cheap compared to GW.


I don't know if quality has gone down, just it's focus; With earlier gaming systems, it was Games. Period. Now, so much time and money is being put into online shops, Netflix deals, and similar in order to be a worse computer instead of just focusing on why people buy consoles in the first place; the games. Just seems kinda odd to me.

It's probably why League of Legends has grown to be a huge worldwide phenomenon while Microsft, EA, Sony, and Nintendo only dream of sharing space with them; LoL focuses only on the game, not on all this extra crap.


Leage of Legends is a game. They don't need to indulge in "extra crap".

Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are console manufacturers.

By indulging in all the "extra crap", they hope to appeal to a wider market and thus make more profit. Tbh I just ignore all the extra crap like netflix etc, but I don't grudge Microsoft (I have an X360) for introducing it all. Though being able to watch Youtube on my dad's 50" LCD tv is awesome. Some people might like having one all purpose entertainment system, as opposed to having to get a game console, a dvd player, a blu ray player, a music player, and a PC/laptop for online browsing. The "extra crap" serves a purpose.

In my parents lounge we have an X360, a Nintendo Wii (bought for my mom, but she never plays games so its only been used once on the day it was purchased), a dvd player, and a blu ray player. Getting them all hooked up to the tv and having to switch AV channels all the time is a pain in the arse, especially when we misplace the remote. One single console like an Xbone or PS4 would solve that.

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What is Gamergate?

About the only thing I which I watch is MXO reviews of Skyrim mods and even that infrequently, and I come here also infrequently when I am bored so I guess I am out of the loop.

Is there actually a culture of gamers? I know there was that weird series of Southpark making fun of the morons who watch other people play video games. Is that the kind of thing we are talking about?

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What is Gamergate?


A can of works filled to the brim with feces. Long story short: female "developer" makes false claims, gets called out for it, tries to sell it as sexism, which then calls in SJW and actual sexists alike who get into a fight, insults over insults over insults...the usual.

   
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A consumer revolt movement protesting against alleged and proven incidences of corruption, collusion and unethical behaviour in video game journalism; with an alleged minority (it's the internet, where almost everyone is anonymous so their "membership" of Gamer Gate can't be proven either way) of vocal extremists who carry out harassment and trolling.

Its not an organisation or a Hive Mind, there is no actual membership or leadership. ANYBODY can post under the hash tag and claim to be a part of it.

At its most fundamental level, to say "I agree with Gamer Gate" is to say "I think journalists should adhere to a professional code of conduct and ethics". It's an opinion, shared by a wide variety of people whether left wing or right, male or female, white, black, Arab or Asian, feminist MRA or neutral.

The fact that some people who are pro Gamer Gate, but also hold anti feminist views and/or troll and harass people (something which BOTH sides, as well as neutral 3rd party trolls have done btw) does not mean that Gamer Gate itself is anti feminist etc.

I might be pro animal rights or a feminist, AND a Neo Nazi but that doesn't make all animal rights activists and Feminists neo Nazis.


Basically we've got three simultaneous issues.

A series of scandals in a video game journalism community with a strong left wing feminist /"SJW" (the pejorative) bias.
A consumer revolt protesting against said scandals.
Trolls (possibly dominated by 3rd parties, we not really know) targeting both sides.

Both sides find it convenient to blame the other side for this trolling to discredit opposing views.


I've made no secret which side I'm on, but I think I've phrased it as objectively as possible.

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The distressing part is that people insist on trying to make it an actual "culture", some kind of membership, some common binding thread.

All it really needs to be in the literal sense is people who like to play games which I figure can include sports = entertainment with a competitive spirit.

Mix-in consumerism = money and it all starts getting ugly since all kinds of motivations come into play.

I would be more likely to call myself a "strategist" than a gamer but I guess it really is what kind of label you wish to take-on with all the connotations that entails.

It is far easier to address a named group of people like "gamer" than "outspoken-misogynistic-motivated-bullies-who-happen-to-play-games", why worry about being particular?

People like to hide in a crowd if they are insecure, people may leave that membership if that collective comes under fire for behaviors.
The laughable label of journalists of some game review sites seemed to honestly think if they loudly proclaim the death of "gamers" they would then have no relevance.
I suppose if game reviewers/journalists stopped being controversial or entertaining their relevance would fade.

So yeah, "gaming culture" I will pick and choose but will not participate in overly much other than with you fine folk in Dakka!

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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
 Slarg232 wrote:
 eskimo wrote:
I dunno if it's relevent, but i find the gaming thing has got progressively worse.

I bought an xbox one, worst pos ever. Hardware is bad, Ui is so slow to the extent of finding out which of your friends online takes a minute of hanging. No options for anything, settings are so minimal. No dvd upscaling. I have a decent surround reciever to which i had to buy an analog mixer just so i can talk to friends.

Destiny was a bad joke, Halo is loosing it's soul, MCC is wrecked, every franchise i loved turned bad.

Playstation 2 slim, best console. Plays ps1 games, dvds, it's tiny and quiet, and has ethernet and optical.

At least gaming is cheap compared to GW.


I don't know if quality has gone down, just it's focus; With earlier gaming systems, it was Games. Period. Now, so much time and money is being put into online shops, Netflix deals, and similar in order to be a worse computer instead of just focusing on why people buy consoles in the first place; the games. Just seems kinda odd to me.

It's probably why League of Legends has grown to be a huge worldwide phenomenon while Microsft, EA, Sony, and Nintendo only dream of sharing space with them; LoL focuses only on the game, not on all this extra crap.


Leage of Legends is a game. They don't need to indulge in "extra crap".

Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo are console manufacturers.

By indulging in all the "extra crap", they hope to appeal to a wider market and thus make more profit. Tbh I just ignore all the extra crap like netflix etc, but I don't grudge Microsoft (I have an X360) for introducing it all. Though being able to watch Youtube on my dad's 50" LCD tv is awesome. Some people might like having one all purpose entertainment system, as opposed to having to get a game console, a dvd player, a blu ray player, a music player, and a PC/laptop for online browsing. The "extra crap" serves a purpose.

In my parents lounge we have an X360, a Nintendo Wii (bought for my mom, but she never plays games so its only been used once on the day it was purchased), a dvd player, and a blu ray player. Getting them all hooked up to the tv and having to switch AV channels all the time is a pain in the arse, especially when we misplace the remote. One single console like an Xbone or PS4 would solve that.


Yes, but there comes a point. Especially with the Kinect, where gamers say they don't want it, including some of this extra crap is pointless. Don't get me wrong, having a PS3 with a Blu-Ray player that can access Youtube is awesome, but that's not a hard feature. Adding in things like trying to sync it with my PC, home theater network, etc., seem pointless to me. I'd rather have a PS4 with Blu-Ray player and the option to buy a "Home Theater System" PS4 bundle with the aforementioned features if it meant better game development and system design.

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Aye, the Kinect should never have been bundled in with the Xbone. Including an untested unproven peripheral that the average Gamer didn't want (We've had a Wii for nigh on 5 years now and neither I nor my brother have ever used it) bundled in with the basic console made it far too expensive.

But regarding the Playstation and Bluray. Aren't PS games based on BluRay tech? I thought bluray disks were an important technological advancement over DVD's.


From the very start of this generation, Video Game consoles should have come in multiple packages.

Gamer focused packages - cheaper, sans Kinect etc.

And Home Entertainment packages. All the extra bells and whistles.

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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
A consumer revolt movement protesting against alleged and proven incidences of corruption, collusion and unethical behaviour in video game journalism;

Ahah, no.

Actually it is a hashtag on Twitter.
And this hashtag is used quite rarely to speak about corruption, collusion and unethical behavior in video game journalism, and a lot to attack detractors of the hashtag, or “SJW” in general, or…

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I've made no secret which side I'm on, but I think I've phrased it as objectively as possible.

Not really, no. You put all the emphasis on what you believe GamerGate to be about, while neglecting the facts of what it actually is. It is really, clearly and for all to see, a hashtag. And it does not take much research to find out how people using the hashtag have no consensus whatsoever on what it is about. Cue “metalgate”, for instance.

"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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Come on, how can anyone take anyone using hashtags seriously.

#Bringbackyourgirls

Just sayin'.

   
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Said hashtag was a social media campaign initiated by a group of people who wanted a bunch of idiots to cover for them while they attacked people they didn't like. Naturally, they found a bunch of suckers. As a result, it has thus far not managed to exceed its ignoble beginnings; quite frankly, it never will.

I don't use said hashtag to define gamer culture to begin with, though, so idk how much relevance this has to the thread topic.

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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:


But regarding the Playstation and Bluray. Aren't PS games based on BluRay tech? I thought bluray disks were an important technological advancement over DVD's.



I *think* so, at least on the PS4 I think it is. I'm not overly sure that it was integral to the PS3 other than they had it.... Remember when the PS3 and 360 first came out, the "new" home video format war was kicking off... 360 siding with "HDDVD" and PS with Blu-Ray. So, at least on the PS3, I don't believe that the discs were necessarily an HD format to contain more info.
   
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Clearly we all get our info on it from different sources, which leads to different perceptions.

I imagine you lot read sites like Kotaku, Polygon and Gawker.

I don't. The last time I regularly used such sites was almost a decade ago, and that was Gamespot and IGN. These days I only watch youtubers like...

Angry Joe (mostly neutral as he wants to stay out of it, but hes biased against GG).
TotalBiscuit. (explicitly not a member of GG, but is a vocal critic of industry corruption).
Mundane Matt.
Sargon of Akkad.
NEET Life. (female).
Shoe0nHead (female).
Cheshire Cat Studios (one of the four or so regular members is female).
Extra Credits (anti GG).
Thunderf00t.
Jim Sterling (anti GG).


I don't use 4chan or Reddit, only Dakka.


If your primary or only sources are journalism sites like the ones I mentioned above, then I'm not surprised we have completely different perceptions.

Plus theres the whole NotYourShield thing, which you seem to prefer to ignore...



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Said hashtag was a social media campaign initiated by a group of people who wanted a bunch of idiots to cover for them while they attacked people they didn't like.


Ahem.

Both sides find it convenient to blame the other side for this trolling to discredit opposing views.

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How about if we don't turn this into another Gamergate thread, everyone?

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