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Getting back into playing Warhammer 40k

Dusted off my old Chaos space Marine Modelss got the 6th edition codex for them, and have been playing some steady games with them for some time now.

The problem is I just cant seem to win games for love nor money with Chaos space marines.

Currently building a Emperors Children Warband - hey i like noise marines ... so shoot me !

Working on a 2000 pt list and would like some input as to what to take for a competative list.

Any advice or tips would be great !

Thanks

Jonesy

Hi, Jonesyjones. I like Noise Marines too. Unfortunately, I don't have much in the way of advice for using them since I don't get many games in. But the advice I've been given is...

Firstly, to give them Rhinos to give them manoeuvrability and, once disembarked, cover;

Secondly, to consider taking close combat Noise Marines without Sonic Weapons, owing to their better-than-MEQ initiative (and to avoid taking power fists, especially on champions, to make the most of this initiative value);

Thirdly, that Sonic Weapon equipped Noise Marines are great support units and objective camping units (also note that, according to the FAQ on the GW website, a unit of 10 Noise Marines can have 2 Blastmasters);

Fourthly, to remember that Doom Sirens, as template weapons, are not just great offensive weapons, but great overwatch weapons - for who wants to charge right into that (especially with the NMs high initiative);

And fifthly, Slaaneshi psykers with Symphony of Pain amplify the power of Sonic Weapons.

I would also add that Chosen with the mark of Slaanesh are awesome in assault. Just go easy on the power fists.

Best of luck!

even with Noise marines add 2-3 man units of Nurgle obliterators w/VotLW

they work for me.

Cheers guys !

Appreciate it

am testing units that work well with NSM

Lucius, as much as i love the fluff and the model isnt hitting hard enough to actually kill enemy characters or terminators...

i did have a laugh the other night when i took Kharn ... my opponent took a imperial knight ... and charged him. Kharn took out the knight but died in the explosion ... but the look on his face when Kharn took that thing apart was immense ! .. nice guy ...

would you recomend khorne zerkers to go with NSM ? or just take 3 slots of Obliterators?

Why not try Blood Angels?

CSM work best with Daemon allies (and Daemons work best with CSM allies), both have holes the other's good at plugging.

Blood angels .. interesting ...

Deamons you say ...

Hi,

Welcome to Dakka

cheers knightley!

cooking up a list.

Land raiders being the only assault vehicles are a bit of a let down.

so am thinking of running Kharn as my HQ with a blob of 20 CSM with the mark of khorne

2, 10 man squads of NSM with 4 Blastmasters to take n hold objectives,

But what to stick on the Rhinos? im thinking dirge caster and destroyer blades so they can deposit the Noise Marines and go and support kharn (hell of a guy) n his adventures up the table.

my thinking being dirge caster to stop any overwatch for kahrn n the lads ... n destroyer blades to actually try n hiot something with tank shock.

any thoughts lads?

Jonesyjones wrote:
Blood angels .. interesting ...

Deamons you say ...

Yes, I play Blood Angels.

Welcome!

I play mostly Emperors Children. My hardest working units so far have been MSU of NM in a rhino (4 bolters one blastmaster) The ole dick in a box

Slaanesh bikers, with a lord(LC,PF), an unmarked sorcerer and icon of excess, big units only 9 bikers 2 meltas. This unit hits like a truck

Havocs with AutoCannons, Cant tell you how well these guys work.

Also, the heldrake, definitely consider picking one up if you havent already.

Lastly, if you have want to stay fluffly the Sonic Dread is pretty decent, double blastmaster shots if you pay for it. But it has all the same shortcomings of other dreads.

you can get a sonic dread ? ooohhh .... yeah dreads are limited but are fun

so havocs ... bikes ... helldrake ... and a dick in the box hahaha

so far i have been toying with taking:
2 10 NSM,
kharn n a blob of 20 strong CSM
slaanesh psyker with bikers
and from your posts above havocs with autocannons

im thinking using kahrn as a distraction ,,,
(would you want that running at your prised imperial knight? hell of a guy ....)

whilst rhinos with NSM takes objectives

psyker biker squad to get into combat ASAP with slannesh powers to bolster the melee stats then add support for the sonic weapons ...

KaptinBadtruck - have yet to face Blood Angels ... would love to see what they can do... so far its space wolves, darkangels, imperial guard ... and sadly ive been threatend with eldar of late ...

with the amount of imperial armies ud think there be a specific codex n stuff for hte dark gods wouldnt you ? bloody imperialist ...

Hello! Welcome to Dakka Dakka!

Cheers Byte

I can't speak as a Chaos player but one of my long time opponents plays an Emperor's Children army and he usually manages to give me a close game. The units I dread facing are:

Havocs with Autocannons
Defilers
Vindicators
Heldrakes
Anything with a Blastmaster

Something people tend to overlook is that CSM can field a very shooty army.

Personally, I use NM in rhinos more for the extra effort needed to attack the NM than anything else. Put a squad with a blastmaster or two inside and let them get those extra few turns of shooting. Take some other vehicles that are big threats too and make them decide where they point all their AT.

If you are going to use Kharn and 'zerkers, I would go whole hog and take several LR (w/ dirge casters) and several squads of 'zerkers instead NM and rush them as quickly as possible toward your enemy. If you start doing too many things ok you won't do any of them well.

If you're playing Emperor's Children, consider maxed out melee biker units with FnP icon, or maxed out Raptor units with FnP icon.

This icon gets very good in big units, and maxed your slaaneshi high-initiative guys be better in melee than anything the Imperial scum can throw at them (faster AND more resilient!)

If you plan on assaulting ANYTHING, put dirge casters on anything you can fit them on.

welcome to dakkadakka

cheers guys really appreciate it

kharn n a 20 man squad is the distraction ...

taking rhinos with nsm n blastmasters to get where they need to go.

dont think a slanneshi psyker is great ...

using the havocs next - cant wait as ive heard so much positive stuff about em

cheers

I like Heldrakes, unless I'm facing them.

specialize the nm. Never mix blastmaster with ssonic blaster or ccw+doom siren champ.

Either you take 10 men for 2 blastmasters and sit them in the back or you have a marching sonic blaster mid field or you have ccw nm in rhinos rushing forward.

you need to complement with lascannons or meltaguns for anti tank.

Yeah cheers filch.

Chosen for the melta tank hunters ?





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Slanneshi chosen multimtas and close combar weapons

Wont they be pricey and targrted? :s

I do like the two attacks though and initative 5