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The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.

As a fan of shooter style games, I've been getting into this. It's a breath of fresh air from the homogenous "realistic" FPS style we're flooded with now.

Anyone else playing? If so, what platform?

I'm currently on the PS4, playing with a friend. It'd be awesome to get more people to join up!

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I've played it mostly on the PC... played it on the XboxONE for a bit... like it a bit more on the PC for some reason. I think I just got luckier with the Mod drops and such.
   
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I'm heavily into it at this point. It's got the most appealing aesthetic of any game I've played in a while. It does have its flaws though. Like the fact that whilst all frames can be farmed, some aren't worth the effort. Like Nyx. Who requires a specific alert on a specific planet to drop the components

That being said. The Archwing missions are an utter blast. Travel on an x, y, and z axis! In space! They're also pretty to look at and well designed.

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 thedarkavenger wrote:
As a fan of shooter style games, I've been getting into this. It's a breath of fresh air from the homogenous "realistic" FPS style we're flooded with now.

Anyone else playing? If so, what platform?

I'm currently on the PS4, playing with a friend. It'd be awesome to get more people to join up!


Realistic shooters?? There are no 'realistic shooters' any more. Not even 'modern shooters'. It's all sci-fi crap and stillborn concepts too 'revolutionary' to a) work right and b) keep the game afloat. Hardline will be the only modern shooter worth anything to players that don't like Valve and Valve engine games.

But, I'm looking forward to trying Warframe (type Warface and god that game was awful...). It's downloading now on the Xbone and hadn't heard anything about it. Glad someone is enjoying it though. Gives me a little confidence. Appealing aesthetic is a very big part to what makes a game good to me. I can forgive nearly any flaw if the universe the game tries to build is attractive.
   
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 SharkoutofWata wrote:
 thedarkavenger wrote:
As a fan of shooter style games, I've been getting into this. It's a breath of fresh air from the homogenous "realistic" FPS style we're flooded with now.

Anyone else playing? If so, what platform?

I'm currently on the PS4, playing with a friend. It'd be awesome to get more people to join up!


Realistic shooters?? There are no 'realistic shooters' any more. Not even 'modern shooters'. It's all sci-fi crap and stillborn concepts too 'revolutionary' to a) work right and b) keep the game afloat. Hardline will be the only modern shooter worth anything to players that don't like Valve and Valve engine games.

But, I'm looking forward to trying Warframe (type Warface and god that game was awful...). It's downloading now on the Xbone and hadn't heard anything about it. Glad someone is enjoying it though. Gives me a little confidence. Appealing aesthetic is a very big part to what makes a game good to me. I can forgive nearly any flaw if the universe the game tries to build is attractive.



I say it's different to realistic shooters, because you can do stuff like summon tentacle swarms to defeat mobs of cloned abhumans.

As for the aesthetic, it's pretty as hell. Especially if you enjoy running around in tight latex with superpowers. And I mean stuff like invisibility, magnetism, antimatter manipulation and hydro/cryokinesis.


The only real major gripe I have is the crafting system. If I wanted to craft dual revolvers. I'd need to spend the in game currency on a pair of the revolver blueprints. Then I'd need to farm the materials and currency to make them both. Then I'd need to farm the materials and currency to combine the pair of them into the dual wielding versions.

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Played it for a while, but the grind was starting to get to me.

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Terrible game. The only thing it really has going for it is its incredibly unique asthetic, but pretty art doesn't keep you coming back when the mechanics are ass. The multiplayer is horrific thanks to the lack of servers, the CO/OP is also horrific due to the lack of servers, and the entire game is based off grinding for the sake of grinding while DE keeps adding new gimmicks instead of balancing the damn game.

Plus combat is incredibly dull as after the AI nerf, the enemies are about as intelligent as Civilization AI and act more like turrets then actual soldiers. The only difficulty comes when DE just changes the armor and damage values in T3 or above instead of making legitimately intelligent, dangerous AI that can threaten you.

I keep coming back around once a month to check if they've actually improved anything, but always end up taking another vacation from the game as DE still has yet to stop the power creep of weapons, balance gak, or improve enemy AI instead of just adding crappy gimmicks like the Archwing or Kubrows.

Real shame given how pretty the game is. But they desperately need to get actual servers, as right now the connection quality is just as bad, if not worse then some console games. For something that's a PC game. Heresy. Dedicated servers are practically mandatory these days to ensure a game is actually playable or any MP that exists can function properly.

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I am playing it on PS4, mastery level 7 still haven't unlocked some of the later planets, yes it can be grindy, the trick is just to go for the alerts and leave the normal missions be.

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The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.

Im at mastery level 3 and am up to Sedna. I've invested in a Mesa and haven't looked back yet.

As for the archwing stuff, now that I've done it, it's easy. Your primary gun has infinite ammo. Well, 250 bullets at a time that regenerate.

As for the grinding, it's present in spades. It's not mandatory beyond levelling your equipment. If you think that's too much, well, maybe an online game isn't your cup of tea.

Also, the PS4 version seems quite populated. I've not waited more than 2 minutes to find a squad for anything yet.

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 thedarkavenger wrote:
Im at mastery level 3 and am up to Sedna. I've invested in a Mesa and haven't looked back yet.

As for the archwing stuff, now that I've done it, it's easy. Your primary gun has infinite ammo. Well, 250 bullets at a time that regenerate.

As for the grinding, it's present in spades. It's not mandatory beyond levelling your equipment. If you think that's too much, well, maybe an online game isn't your cup of tea.

Also, the PS4 version seems quite populated. I've not waited more than 2 minutes to find a squad for anything yet.


War Thunder, World of Tanks, LOL, DOTA, Planetside 2, etc all manage to have engaging gameplay that does not feel like a World of Warcraft fetch quest while still having a grind, but also being a game. Warframe is a terrible title because you only grind for the sake of grinding. There is no end goal in Warframe, no endgame or final tier. DE just updates and adds more items that are either completely useless usefully only for grinding more mastery, or further break the game by being horribly unbalanced weapons that shift the meta.

The multiplayer is also godawful and laggy thanks to DE not buying any dedicated servers, meaning any competitive play flies clean out the window due to Warframe's terrible connection rates with players teleporting around even when they aren't Loki or Ash. Plus like the CO/OP meta, it's unbalanced as hell with there simply being a list of must-have weapons that will wreck everything you fight. There's simply no point to even bother with Dark Sector conflicts unless you're a masochist.

The CO/OP is currently gak as well, with it suffering from the same connection and balance issues as the multiplayer- only this is further compounded by even more boring gameplay due to how incredibly stupid the AI is. They don't act like AI in most games since it was changed/reverted- those with ranged weapons will pursue you, those with melee weapons will bumrush you. That's it. They don't try to outflank. They don't try to retreat upon taking heavy losses. They simply stand around and shoot at you in massive blobs that barely try to even take cover, or charge at you like they're a mob of Ork Boyz. They behave more like turrets then actual soldiers, and don't get me started on those laughable laggy boss fights which are a complete joke.

Plus CO/OP really does feel like a boring WOW grind quest, considering all you have to do is get something like the Dragon Nikana, then press E to win up until you reach enemies who are high T3 or T4. Oh, and T3/T4 enemies aren't tough because they're an actual legit challenge that test your skills. DE just simply cranked up their stats and gave them the same moronic AI that only wins through shear numbers or hilariously jacked up stats like they've been taking steroids.

TL;DR, Warframe has a great art design, but fails in everything else. It has no endgame, you grind for the sake of grinding, it has no dedicated servers, and it is incredibly broken/unbalanced. Oh, and it has no proper trading mechanics either and uses a bloody chatbox as its trade store.

(I also know what I'm talking about because I've spent 649 hours in Warframe.)

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Please, World of Tanks feels FAR more grindy than Warframe does. Dear GOD is WoT jaw-strainingly boring to grind. It's nice when you have a tank you actually like, but before then it's so crap that it makes it unbearable.

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 Melissia wrote:
Please, World of Tanks feels FAR more grindy than Warframe does. Dear GOD is WoT jaw-strainingly boring to grind. It's nice when you have a tank you actually like, but before then it's so crap that it makes it unbearable.


Not if you like your stuff to be Russian.

   
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 Melissia wrote:
Please, World of Tanks feels FAR more grindy than Warframe does. Dear GOD is WoT jaw-strainingly boring to grind. It's nice when you have a tank you actually like, but before then it's so crap that it makes it unbearable.


To be frank, I stopped taking the complaints seriously at that WoT comment, as well as the DoTA 2 and LoL having endgame content.


Also, currently levelling my Loki.

TROLLING THE WORLD. ONE TELEPORT AT A TIME.

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 n0t_u wrote:
 Melissia wrote:
Please, World of Tanks feels FAR more grindy than Warframe does. Dear GOD is WoT jaw-strainingly boring to grind. It's nice when you have a tank you actually like, but before then it's so crap that it makes it unbearable.


Not if you like your stuff to be Russian.


But seriously even then you have to deal with crappy tanks, even if it's never as bad as the crime against humanity that is the M3 Lee.


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 thedarkavenger wrote:
 Melissia wrote:
Please, World of Tanks feels FAR more grindy than Warframe does. Dear GOD is WoT jaw-strainingly boring to grind. It's nice when you have a tank you actually like, but before then it's so crap that it makes it unbearable.


To be frank, I stopped taking the complaints seriously at that WoT comment, as well as the DoTA 2 and LoL having endgame content.
The idea of LoL having end-game content certainly does amuse me

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Played this on PC last year/year before. It is pretty, and being a space-ninja was always cool... but there's no real story behind the game. There's not even really a basic hook as to why you're doing what you're doing and the grind, oh, God, the grind for every new suit, weapon, skill...

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 Psienesis wrote:
Played this on PC last year/year before. It is pretty, and being a space-ninja was always cool... but there's no real story behind the game. There's not even really a basic hook as to why you're doing what you're doing and the grind, oh, God, the grind for every new suit, weapon, skill...


Story has been added by trickles, with each new update in small comments in weapon and frame explanations, at least it is in the game and not with destiny at some internet site

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So, first impressions of the Xbox One version, very few people play it despite it being free. Scrolling through the Online Users gave me maybe 40 names? No idea if that's regional or not though. Game is friggin pretty and I do like the character options. WAY more than I expected from a free game but the missions are incredibly dull. I have gotten to the bit where you take off the ankle bracelet from the Face Guy. Something like Level 4 character.

Tutorial could have been better but I didn't exactly search for how-tos so they may be in there, but I still don't know what actually happens when I make my sword go all glowy, but the enemy bodies disintegrate so I assume it's good. Energy usage was not explained at all and there's more than a couple control issues. Not being to make X my melee mode strike button does bug me. it SAYS customizable but it's pretty limited.

Market makes no sense. I have 50 squares and 25,000 trio squares but I need 75 squares and no idea how to get more of them since I started with 50 and have yet to get another despite picking up credits (the universal term for space money). I guess Credits are the trio squares but I can't buy anything with them but the starting equipment?

I'd have preferred a corner window instead of characters speaking to me taking up the ENTIRE side of the screen. No-Eyes is not interesting enough or attractive enough to be worth half my screen whenever she wants to provide background. And Face Guy takes up even more but he's an intrusive program so that makes sense.

Combat is fluid even if it is pretty simple. No cover system I've found and the only issue comes up when my character decides to slide for 90ft instead of crouch sneakily behind a wall. But I think I'd prefer more textile feedback. Impossible on a PC, I get that, but more Vibration in the controller when I take damage. Twice now I've been killed simply because nothing else in the game even drops my shields and I just forget to look at my health bar. Surprises you with death more often than 'it was a long and difficult fight'.

All in all, gonna be playing it quite a bit. I don't like 3rd person shooters generally (Gears of War comes to mind) but this one is actually worth sticking to. It'll prolly stay on my harddrive as my fallback game when I'm bored. Somewhat looking forward to the grind folks are mentioning.
   
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The 50 'squares' are platinum. The real money currency. Once you craft stuff you'll be thankful they gave you 50. Credits get you blueprints for warframes and weapons. Not that you'll use them all. Eventually you'll find a weapon that suits your frame(s). I definitely suggest looking into the codex for the different frames to find the ones you like.


Energy usage is explained once you look at your abilities. The different frames all have very different abilities. Nova instakills everything. Mesa clears rooms with a cough at high levels. Loki messes around and annoys the world. It's highly recommended go to look into a rhino/nova/loki prime, with a boltor prime and a scindo prime. It eliminates the grind completely, though being a pain to grind towards.


As for the characters taking up half the screen, wait till you get to the assassinations. Then you'll whinge like s little girl. Screw assassinations.


And the shield thing is annoying, especially at later levels when enemies start doing damage types that ignore shields. It make as Volts cry.

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So it's a REALLY good thing I didn't spend the Platinum on a cape then huh?

So I buy a blueprint with Credits and then grind for materials and THAT is how to get weapons? Can't flatout buy, for instance, the Cutlass and dagger looking weapon set? Atleast not without paying proper money for?

I think I'm playing as a Volt. The lightning turned out to be too tempting to pass up. But that Loki one is prolly my next. Speed and Blinking is a big bit of what I want to do in the game.
   
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I put maybe 10 or so hours into it when it came out on PC- the grind got to be too much for me after that. Very unique and interesting gameplay though.

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Use platinum only for warframe slots and maybe weapon slots anything else is just waste of money (unless you don't want to grind)

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Have 246 hours on record, myself. Was surprised by how much I had-- only Blacklight: Retribution and Starbound have more hours on record for me.

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So, the grind folks are talking about, that's to find the components for a new suit, right? Bought a blueprint and realize I have not yet seen a helmet of any kind drop. So, is that a luck thing or what?

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 SharkoutofWata wrote:
So, the grind folks are talking about, that's to find the components for a new suit, right? Bought a blueprint and realize I have not yet seen a helmet of any kind drop. So, is that a luck thing or what?



Parts for suits drop from specific locations. Nyx parts, for instance, only drop in phorid infestation assassination missions.

Weapons are much easier, as they drop on planets.

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And lots of stuff drops in void defense missions, with a good team you can rack in some good stuff.

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 Jehan-reznor wrote:
And lots of stuff drops in void defense missions, with a good team you can rack in some good stuff.
tell me about it. I got half the stuff for the latron prime, the nova prime prints, mag prime prints and chassis, and ember prime systems in under two hours.

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When I was playing it, the Nova blueprint (for the helmet, I think) dropped in one of 2 places... one was an at-the-time end-game zone, the other was a higher-mid-level, but it only dropped off the boss and only had a 5% chance of dropping at all.

Ran that zone over 50 times before getting the Nova helm BP to drop.

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 Psienesis wrote:
When I was playing it, the Nova blueprint (for the helmet, I think) dropped in one of 2 places... one was an at-the-time end-game zone, the other was a higher-mid-level, but it only dropped off the boss and only had a 5% chance of dropping at all.

Ran that zone over 50 times before getting the Nova helm BP to drop.


I'm trying to get the Loki Prime systems at the moment. I want to run the invisibility/radial disarm build.

It only drops in T4 defence, after a certain number of waves. And then the RNG kicks in.

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Yeah, no. Ain't nobody got time for that.

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Primes are stupidly dumb to grind. Normal weapons are much less insane to get...

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