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 lord marcus wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 lord marcus wrote:
I'm enjoying hydroid so far. just came back after a big break and bought him. I'm looking for a good bow frame though? Volt maybe?

Loki is the best. Infinistealth gives you the time to actually aim.

Mirage gives you a safety net with her mirror image things.

Really, any frame works with a bow, as long as you play it right.

Infinistealth? how?

with the proper build he'll regenerate more energy while invisible than he uses, meaning you can recast as soon as it ends.

 lord marcus wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 lord marcus wrote:
I'm enjoying hydroid so far. just came back after a big break and bought him. I'm looking for a good bow frame though? Volt maybe?

Loki is the best. Infinistealth gives you the time to actually aim.

Mirage gives you a safety net with her mirror image things.

Really, any frame works with a bow, as long as you play it right.

Infinistealth? how?

Max duration and natural talent. You should spend less than 10 seconds out of stealth on an entire mission.

...With infinistealth, shouldn't you be able to solo pretty much everything?

 Ashiraya wrote:
...With infinistealth, shouldn't you be able to solo pretty much everything?

Enemies can trace your position due to sound. So in T4 he dies a lot.

Anyone want to do a Mesa keyshare? Basically, four people each have one key, and do four runs of mutalisk alad v in a row, each one using up their key in return, in hopes of getting all three mesa parts in one go.

 Melissia wrote:
mutalisk alad v

Ew, get your crappy RTS game off of my Warframe.

Hey, you said 'mutalisk' first.

Yes I know, you have inferior tastes in games than I

 Melissia wrote:
Anyone want to do a Mesa keyshare? Basically, four people each have one key, and do four runs of mutalisk alad v in a row, each one using up their key in return, in hopes of getting all three mesa parts in one go.

Ive already got my mesa done(3 forma!), but I dont mind helping out if youre on the ps4.

Nope, I'm on PC.


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Managed to get it. Now to wait three and a half days to actually play as mesa.

 Melissia wrote:
Nope, I'm on PC.


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Managed to get it. Now to wait three and a half days to actually play as mesa.

She'll be hard work until level 10. To make it easier, find a weapon that isn't top tier for her first ability, and max out efficiency ASAP.

Eh, I'll be fine with her. Have plenty of weapon choices, can complete most missions without relying on powers at all.

 Melissia wrote:
Eh, I'll be fine with her. Have plenty of weapon choices, can complete most missions without relying on powers at all.

Mesa is all about the powers. She has no AoE or damaging powers until level 10. So XP gain is slower, unless you take a mid range weapon to max out Ballistic Battery. Just because your weapons are max rank doesn't mean they miraculously stop leeching XP. It's why the fastest way to level a weapon is to go into a DSD with a frame and the weapon you want to level.

Is it just me, or does Exalted Blade simply outclass Hysteria?

 Ashiraya wrote:
Is it just me, or does Exalted Blade simply outclass Hysteria?

It does, only advantage hysteria has is the invul.

Soloed Sargas Ruk with my Lato and Paris. Took all damn night. Had no idea what to do at first, so I experimented. I killed something like 700 adds during the fight. X.X

I am surprised I lived all the way to see him dead, but I stayed alive by healing with Hysteria.

Leveling up my mesa occasionally~ been amusing. Very different playstyle.


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 Wolfblade wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
Is it just me, or does Exalted Blade simply outclass Hysteria?

It does, only advantage hysteria has is the invul.

The invul is the primary point of hysteria though.

To be fair, given the automatic stamina-independent parrying that Exalted Blade gives, you're basically invulnerable with it too as long as you keep your enemies in front.

I find Hysteria's lifesteal a big selling point, though. Healing synergises very well with Valkyr's high armor, because it means she is healed for more of her effective health.

 Melissia wrote:
Leveling up my mesa occasionally~ been amusing. Very different playstyle.


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 Wolfblade wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
Is it just me, or does Exalted Blade simply outclass Hysteria?

It does, only advantage hysteria has is the invul.

The invul is the primary point of hysteria though.

Not saying it isn't, but with the way other frames have had invuls removed, I expect hysteria to get changed.

 Wolfblade wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Leveling up my mesa occasionally~ been amusing. Very different playstyle.


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 Wolfblade wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
Is it just me, or does Exalted Blade simply outclass Hysteria?

It does, only advantage hysteria has is the invul.

The invul is the primary point of hysteria though.

Not saying it isn't, but with the way other frames have had invuls removed, I expect hysteria to get changed.

Which would render Valkyr even more pointless.

Trinity had hers removed because she's awesome without it. A zone wide heal is great. Having it provide invuln is too good.

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 Wolfblade wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Leveling up my mesa occasionally~ been amusing. Very different playstyle.


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 Wolfblade wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
Is it just me, or does Exalted Blade simply outclass Hysteria?

It does, only advantage hysteria has is the invul.

The invul is the primary point of hysteria though.

Not saying it isn't, but with the way other frames have had invuls removed, I expect hysteria to get changed.

Which would render Valkyr even more pointless.

Trinity had hers removed because she's awesome without it. A zone wide heal is great. Having it provide invuln is too good.

Frost had has removed because it was OP, it was easily his best and honestly only worthwhile skill.
Rhino had his removed at the time where it was his best skill, and only reason to use him.

What I'm saying is, don't expect any sort of immortality power to stick around.

Rumor has it that update 17 is launching today if not tomorrow.

 Wolfblade wrote:
Not saying it isn't, but with the way other frames have had invuls removed, I expect hysteria to get changed.

I thought that their attempt to balance Valkyr's Hysteria was the addition of the buff-removal bubble enemies?

That's more than enough, Valkyr's rarely desired in high end play any more because of those alone.

 Melissia wrote:

 Wolfblade wrote:
Not saying it isn't, but with the way other frames have had invuls removed, I expect hysteria to get changed.

I thought that their attempt to balance Valkyr's Hysteria was the addition of the buff-removal bubble enemies?

That's more than enough, Valkyr's rarely desired in high end play any more because of those alone.

That was DE's counter to powers period, not just valk.

Yeah but it hit Valkyr the hardest.

 Melissia wrote:
Yeah but it hit Valkyr the hardest.

AHEM. Loki disagrees.

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Yeah but it hit Valkyr the hardest.

AHEM. Loki disagrees.

At least Loki's ult doesn't eliminate his ability to do ranged attacks with weapons.

Both Valkyr and Loki are still desirable in nightmare raids, and that's the most end-level content aside from Tier 4 Void endless missions past some absurd time.

 Melissia wrote:

 thedarkavenger wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Yeah but it hit Valkyr the hardest.

AHEM. Loki disagrees.

At least Loki's ult doesn't eliminate his ability to do ranged attacks with weapons.

Valkyr at least has a bunch of health and armor even without Hysteria.

Loki dies to a stiff breeze without his powers.