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Bioptic wrote:
How do people feel about the movement grid - that there isn't one, just a dot matrix to show off a more "natural-looking board"? I think placing models directly over the dots might be a big strange, as there's so much fudging, and a slight knock makes it rather hard to remember the position a model was originally in. The tiny snippets of the boards seen so far do look lush though.

I am not sure how I feel about the dot grid yet. I wouldn't be too worried about a slight move, that would happen in squares and the circle is still covering the majority of the dot unless you really bumped the table hard. It is different, so it may take some getting used too. It technically isn't any different than a zone type movement, just placing a miniature on the dot.... but I'm also along the lines, I don't see an issue with square based board (if it isn't broke, why change it?).

Those who have trouble with The SD style, please stay away from Japan and especcially places like Akihabara, Nakano sun plaza and Denden town. It will drive the social Justice warriors nuts.

This is not meant as being sexy but more as being cute, i have never hear any stories about Otaku getting aroused by chibi characters (lollicon on the other hand ).

My god people, this is why we can't have nice things. The KS hasn't even started yet and the thread is full of ridiculous negativity.

Dark Severance wrote:

Bioptic wrote:
How do people feel about the movement grid - that there isn't one, just a dot matrix to show off a more "natural-looking board"? I think placing models directly over the dots might be a big strange, as there's so much fudging, and a slight knock makes it rather hard to remember the position a model was originally in. The tiny snippets of the boards seen so far do look lush though.

I am not sure how I feel about the dot grid yet. I wouldn't be too worried about a slight move, that would happen in squares and the circle is still covering the majority of the dot unless you really bumped the table hard. It is different, so it may take some getting used too. It technically isn't any different than a zone type movement, just placing a miniature on the dot.... but I'm also along the lines, I don't see an issue with square based board (if it isn't broke, why change it?).

I wasn't that bothered by lines on the play tiles either. I don't think the dots will be an issue though - the only thing I can think of is that they might make things more difficult for the people who like to create the really neat 3d boards.

Jehan, sending you a PM out of curiosity as it is offtopic.

Hope you do not mind.

I wonder if they will include SDE cards to use these figures are heroes and villains? That would probably make it a much more attractive purchase.

I think it's a pretty safe bet that we'll be seeing SDE cards for some of these guys. At least the heroes.

 cincydooley wrote:
But is there a minis only pledge....I sure darn rootin tootin hope so!!!

That's what I'm pledging for. Though I will have to get the game-components addon to go with my minies. I hope they bundle them together at some point.

 Azazelx wrote:
I wonder if they will include SDE cards to use these figures are heroes and villains?

This has not been confirmed, but rest assured, you are not the only person asking (and hoping) for SDE crossover cards to play NAS Ninjas as SDE Heroes.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
I wonder if they will include SDE cards to use these figures are heroes and villains?

This has not been confirmed, but rest assured, you are not the only person asking (and hoping) for SDE crossover cards to play NAS Ninjas as SDE Heroes.

This is what would sell me on another kickstarter featuring chibis. Someone posted earlier that hey wish they weren't in chibi style and I agree...cause if they are chibi there is only ONE thing I can use them for...and that is this game. I like my miniatures to have some cross use if possible.

I should point out that I really am looking forward to the game, and for more details of that to emerge - it originally sounded like they were gearing this up for competitive play, so I'd be interested to see what that looks like for a miniatures-heavy boardgame that isn't a wargame.

My frustration about some of the character designs is being brought into sharp relief because they are the only things being revealed right now. I'm not trying to just be negative for negativity's sake - it is going to be an element of the game which serves to limit who I can play it with, and that's a shame if it proves to be a great game. Clearly it's not going to be a problem for most of the intended audience!

I plan on backing this, and will only throw more money at it if by chance they cross over to SDE. At the very least I'm sure we'll get some heroes and mini bosses out of it, as was with relic knights. But depending on the scale of the game I wouldn't mind the 6 clans each having a spawn point, and only the named ninja being heroes/minibosses.

 Dentry wrote:
I think it's a pretty safe bet that we'll be seeing SDE cards for some of these guys. At least the heroes.

 cincydooley wrote:
But is there a minis only pledge....I sure darn rootin tootin hope so!!!

That's what I'm pledging for. Though I will have to get the game-components addon to go with my minies. I hope they bundle them together at some point.

I'm sure you're asking the same Q that I am: how many crossovers will we get for SDE?

I'm hoping for 3-6 new heroes/villains.

 Azazelx wrote:
I wonder if they will include SDE cards to use these figures are heroes and villains?.

I would certainly dig some Spawning Ninja Horde for SDE, in the pure 1980 movies style.

"Ninja Rule Number 1: The more Ninja there are, the less skilled they become. One Ninja will always be more powerful when fighting alone a lot of them at once."

I'm quite confident with this Kickstarter. Soda Pop has a very good communication on the Forgotten King one. Will keep an eye for this. More Chibi models never hurt.

Bioptic wrote:
My frustration about some of the character designs is being brought into sharp relief because they are the only things being revealed right now. I'm not trying to just be negative for negativity's sake - it is going to be an element of the game which serves to limit who I can play it with, and that's a shame if it proves to be a great game. Clearly it's not going to be a problem for most of the intended audience!

I am father of 4 children, one who is autistic so I have to be careful how things are presented to him initially. It all depends on how they are painted, even then using the original art style I see nothing wrong with presenting these to my children. My youngest are 11 and 13 and I've already showed them the miniatures which matches up with Krosmaster and SDE so they are both excited, especially since it is is Ninjas. I've seen worse in a Carls Jr commercial, which I wouldn't want them watching because of how its presented vs the appearance. I don't understand how these are considered over sexualized because they aren't nor do I see any issues of playing this at game storms or conventions.

rayphoton wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
I wonder if they will include SDE cards to use these figures are heroes and villains?

This is what would sell me on another kickstarter featuring chibis. Someone posted earlier that hey wish they weren't in chibi style and I agree...cause if they are chibi there is only ONE thing I can use them for...and that is this game. I like my miniatures to have some cross use if possible.

If the game is good enough (like BattleLore 1E & SDE 1E), having game-specific minis isn't a bad thing. I'm not missing that my chibi SDE minis are only for SDE. Not at all. They're cute and the game is great.

That said, I do get the point of crossover use - nothing wrong with that at all, especially with the variety of things in the 28-32mm scale.
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Bioptic wrote:I should point out that I really am looking forward to the game, and for more details of that to emerge - it originally sounded like they were gearing this up for competitive play, so I'd be interested to see what that looks like for a miniatures-heavy boardgame that isn't a wargame.

My frustration about some of the character designs is being brought into sharp relief because they are the only things being revealed right now.

I think this will be campaign/league play, such as Blood Bowl, Dreadball.

SPM / ND have been trickling out detail very slowly, and it has been a little frustrating for many of us as well. More recently, the information has started to reach a critical mass of what things might look like and how it might play.

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Spartan-Kun wrote:I plan on backing this, and will only throw more money at it if by chance they cross over to SDE. At the very least I'm sure we'll get some heroes and mini bosses out of it, as was with relic knights. But depending on the scale of the game I wouldn't mind the 6 clans each having a spawn point, and only the named ninja being heroes/minibosses.

We shall see. It would not be to difficult to structure each Clan as a Spawn Point (flag), Hero/Miniboss (special character), and Minions (regular Ninja), but we'll see if they go that route. I hope so.
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Dark Severance wrote:I am father of 4 children, one who is autistic so I have to be careful how things are presented to him initially. It all depends on how they are painted, even then using the original art style I see nothing wrong with presenting these to my children. My youngest are 11 and 13 and I've already showed them the miniatures which matches up with Krosmaster and SDE so they are both excited, especially since it is is Ninjas. I've seen worse in a Carls Jr commercial, which I wouldn't want them watching because of how its presented vs the appearance. I don't understand how these are considered over sexualized because they aren't nor do I see any issues of playing this at game storms or conventions.

I agree, and don't see anything over-sexualized with these toys - if a 3-year-old can have a Barbie doll, then this is fine. The recent Kate Upton commercial is pretty good, but the burgers are too wet and messy.

I've been told it's more of a "sports game."

That Ninja All-Stars is a sports game???

cincydooley wrote:I'm sure you're asking the same Q that I am: how many crossovers will we get for SDE?

I'm hoping for 3-6 new heroes/villains.

That seems like a fair estimate. But how many crossovers will we see into Ninja All-Stars?

Marie-Claude will be there since she's in everything Soda Pop does. Other than that we have Relic Knights, Super Dungeon Explore, and Tentacle Bento to draw from. But I don't think SDE or Tentacle Bento have ever made it into the other games, though. So I'm expecting a Kisa or Mamaro To ninja figure as those are the most recognizable from RK. And, personally, I'd like to see a Kingdom Death Twilight Knight promo ninja.

I'm also curious if we'll get a new Candy & Cola figure for this campaign or if they'll just offer rules for the SDE: Forgotten King ninja Candy.

Sarouan wrote:I would certainly dig some Spawning Ninja Horde for SDE, in the pure 1980 movies style.

It hasn't crossed my mind in quite some time but thanks to you I'm having flashbacks to the Dudikoff films.

Azazelx wrote:That Ninja All-Stars is a sports game???

Bloodsport.

 Dentry wrote:

cincydooley wrote:I'm sure you're asking the same Q that I am: how many crossovers will we get for SDE?

I'm hoping for 3-6 new heroes/villains.

That seems like a fair estimate. But how many crossovers will we see into Ninja All-Stars?

Marie-Claude will be there since she's in everything Soda Pop does. Other than that we have Relic Knights, Super Dungeon Explore, and Tentacle Bento to draw from. But I don't think SDE or Tentacle Bento have ever made it into the other games, though. So I'm expecting a Kisa or Mamaro To ninja figure as those are the most recognizable from RK. And, personally, I'd like to see a Kingdom Death Twilight Knight promo ninja.

I'm also curious if we'll get a new Candy & Cola figure for this campaign or if they'll just offer rules for the SDE: Forgotten King ninja Candy.

Given how nicely the minis cross-over they'd only really have to make new cards to add SDE characters into NAS. I can't see them NOT doing that. So I bet we'll have a fair amount both ways.

 Piston Honda wrote:
Jehan, sending you a PM out of curiosity as it is offtopic.

Hope you do not mind.

Muhhahahaha!!!!!!

Be careful what you ask for, young padowan.... Jehan's dead on...

Please, don't save me from my evil, scanty-clad wommonz!!!! I need a moral minority beacon of light like I need another hole in my head. I'm not a big fan of Soda pop's gak, but I'm full on on their SDE stuff. Its a really tight game.

Let people play what they want, and stop pushing that a little T and A is a bad thing.

 Azazelx wrote:
That Ninja All-Stars is a sports game???

Yeah, that's what I was told.

It'll have what sounds like a really cool campaign/league system with it too.

 Grot 6 wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:
Jehan, sending you a PM out of curiosity as it is offtopic.

Hope you do not mind.

Muhhahahaha!!!!!!

Be careful what you ask for, young padowan.... Jehan's dead on...

Please, don't save me from my evil, scanty-clad wommonz!!!! I need a moral minority beacon of light like I need another hole in my head. I'm not a big fan of Soda pop's gak, but I'm full on on their SDE stuff. Its a really tight game.

Let people play what they want, and stop pushing that a little T and A is a bad thing.

I don't have an issue with Soda pop's style. Not my Brew of beer won't slap others for liking it.

Wanted to ask Jehan's person exp. from living in Japan. Some questions I asked would have more than likely turned this thread into a moral and culture argument.

Don't tell me I'm wrong Dakka

 Piston Honda wrote:

Don't tell me I'm wrong Dakka

You're wrong.

If by sports it means capturing objectives before the other team, ganging up on other players to stop a run away winner, and making a muck of everyone's well laid plans, I'm all for it.

Sounds like the game of Arcadia Quest we played tonight, in fact.

Hell, if it's just Ninja Arcadia I'd be perfectly content with that.

 Azazelx wrote:
That Ninja All-Stars is a sports game???

In the sense that it is intended to be played as a series of linked games as part of a campaign, yes.

The specifics of the league / campaign are not yet revealed, but I would not be surprised if this builds off SDE Arena and whatever SDE Campaign concepts were trialed there.

Seems potentially interesting. I guess we'll find out in a week.

Teaser trailer posted today. New pics (I think) - but too hard to tell anything from the unpainted plastic.

I like that song, reminds me of a super nintendo game tune.

Schmapdi wrote:
Teaser trailer posted today. New pics (I think) - but too hard to tell anything from the unpainted plastic.

Very nice. This has just gone up from a definite yes and moved into wonder-how-much-i'll-blow-on-addons territory.

Well after seeing hammer- wielding monkey warriors, kitsune samurai, and tengu in the mix (I'm guessing larger based figures on top of that) I will be keeping a very close eye on this one.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Well after seeing hammer- wielding monkey warriors, kitsune samurai, and tengu in the mix (I'm guessing larger based figures on top of that) I will be keeping a very close eye on this one.

Why are the beastmen not Chibi? The head of the tengu and kitsune are smaller than the eye of a ninja. This is SDE Kasaro To all over again.

Buzz around Forgotten King got me re-interested in this style of product.

I will watch this with great interest.