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**DaveC**

She'd fit nicely into Von Drakk

**Azazelx**

Schmapdi wrote:
Azazelx wrote:
Schmapdi wrote:
The SDE cards are just a generic deck - they will let you adapt any hero you want into either a melee hero or a ranged hero and use any clan as a "ninja" spawning point for your SDE game.

It's pretty clever how they did it, really.

Shame though - with so many heroes, etc I'd buy it if it came with individual SDE cards for them. As it is, I'm thinking it's a pass for me.

I guess. I will point out that there are currently 21 heroes for SDE, and that number is going to more than double in the next few months as SDE:FK stuff comes out. So that'll be nearly 50. There will also soon be 12 spawn points, 15ish mini bosses, 4 bosses and 3 different tile sets. I.E. you could play 5 games of SDE a day for the next 20 years and never play the exact same game twice. Adding another 30 heroes (plus spawns, etc) from NAS would seem to be a bit of overkill IMO. And would probably be pretty hard to do without getting a lot of overlap of existing (or future) SDE stuff.

The official reasoning (aside from it saving them a buttload of work) is that they didn't want to box themselves into a corner when it came to designing the "far east" region of the world SDE inhabits.

Sure. But then, do you know how many Zombicide heroes there are at this point? Doesn't seem to hurt that game or its sales, and you don't see a lot of upset people about that. But like I said, I'm not butthurt, but I'm not super-interested in this particular game on its own merits.

- But if it came with enough SDE utility I'd buy it anyway, so I do see it as a bit of a shame. As opposed to something that triggers The Red Mist, you understand...

And Dave - I do agree!

**DaveC**

1500 backers passed clan Kitsune unlocked

**JohnHwangDD**

Yay, 5 of 6 Clans unlocked!

**NAVARRO**

Glad they introduced more intermediate goals since it was dragging a bit. Clever move.

I think the sweet spot for this will be around 160 with all the clans, the individual characters at 10 each has little value per mini.

I was also thinking if there should not be an option to buy just one shrine pack, one could buy say a water shrine and paint it in a way to form the 7th ninja clan? The minis are already there just a small facelift with a paintjob would do the job.

**Dice Monkey**

I am in just because they made a chibi Ogami Ittō and Daigoro if they made a Retsudō I would buy 2

**Rainyday**

DaveC wrote:

She'd fit nicely into Von Drakk

Yeah, I'm hoping they'll at least give Jorogumo an SDE card. She'd be great as a mini-boss or hero (or both).

**DaveC**

Beta Rules and cards

http://ninjadivision.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/ninja-all-stars-public-beta-rulebook-sz1.pdf
http://ninjadivision.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/ninja-all-stars-public-beta-moon-deck1.pdf

Full list of the 18 Ronin - so the other 12 are the 2 heroes per clan

Benkei
Blind Swordsman
Dark Kitsune
Howl and Yip
Inu Clan Kaiken
Jorogumo
Kappa
Komuso
Miyamoto Musashi
Mochizuki
Momotaro
Moon Princess
Ondori Clan Kaiken
Onibaba
Shojo
Sun Empire Wandering Samurai
Tengu
Yagyu Jubei

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Well I think Clan Kitsune and now Clan Tanchyo have pulled me in

**JohnHwangDD**

Nice! I'm liking the look of that clan.

**Schmapdi**

Stretch goal hit, next one revealed.

Two more goals likely hit tomorrow.

**Maniac_nmt**

This has got me wanting to convert up some Mini Ninjas (Futo, Hiro, Tora, Shun, Suzume, and Kunoichi). Anyone have any good ideas for parts (other than models from Ninja All-Stars (as there are a few good base models to use in it) or models?

I wouldn't mind taking a coversion stab now to work through the team before the game releases....

http://www.minininjas.com/us/

Spoiler:

**Bioptic**

My understanding is that all of the characters & Ronin for this will be in the base game's rulebook, correct?

If so, then I genuinely might consider getting two $100 pledges so that I can convert & give alternate paint schemes to the characters/Ronin from the $100 level, turning them into the $10 add-ons.

It would only take adding a greenstuff eye patch, slightly extending the hairline and slicing the baby (unfortunate turn of phrase) off his back, to turn this freebie

into this $10 model

for example! The spider queen might be harder...

I was also considering painting the duplicate trophy either silver (or 2nd prize) or grey with a bit of texturing to make some nice stone statue scenery.

**DaveC**

Yes all of the rules for all 12 Heroes and 18 Ronin are in the rulebook so it should be easy enough to proxy/convert them - I already have Kappa, Tengu, ninjas, monks and other suitable miniatures from Impacts! Range so I'm limiting myself to 6 paid add on ronin - Jorogumo is definitely 1

Apparently the gameplay video is finished and should be up today but they are having difficulty uploading it at the moment

**highlord tamburlaine**

Silly question- does it matter if we're getting the clan that each stretch goal hero is attached to?

I ask because the newer stretch goals, such as the kitsune hero, say that ninja and elemental master pledges receive him free.

Do I need to have the kitsune clan, or do I just get the hero tossed in with my pledge? Have Soda Pop clarified that?

Not a bad deal if all those stretch goal heroes end up in the box regardless of which clans I get.

**DaveC**

Yep they confirmed you get the stretch goal heroes whether you get the clan or not

“
@Kraymore All of the current free hero stretch goals will go to each pledge regardless of the clan you choose.

Mar 28 2015 on Ninja All-Stars

**JohnHwangDD**

Bioptic wrote:
My understanding is that all of the characters & Ronin for this will be in the base game's rulebook, correct?

If so, then I genuinely might consider getting two $100 pledges so that I can convert & give alternate paint schemes to the characters/Ronin from the $100 level, turning them into the $10 add-ons

Yeah, it's looking like the "sweet spot" will be $200 for both Master pledges - double SGs will cover a lot of options.

**Manchu**

That is where I have been sitting and despite my best efforts to convince myself to back out, this KS is just getting too good.

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Arashikage haha ... is Snake Eyes next?

**Maniac_nmt**

Storm Shadow is sweet...I'm definitely stuck fleshing out a Snake Eyes and Zartan now...

**Schmapdi**

Kinda a slow day today - but two stretch goals hit. The next freebie revealed:

and the 6th and final clan unlocked.

**Schmapdi**

New backer-based stretch goal announced.

**DaveC**

Gameplay videos

**Schmapdi**

Another freebie hit - and the next one is revealed!

**Schmapdi**

Spider-girl unlocked. Next goal announced.

~$15k away from next freebie (and last clan hero) being unlocked. Things have slowed way way down on this one unfortunately, so the campaign has gotten pretty dull. Still inching along though.

**JohnHwangDD**

Looks like the core pledges are all set now, so it's just small unlocks from here out:

-or-

Completist Clan pledge would be:
. $100 Ninja Master for 1st 4 Clans & SGs
+ $60 for remaining 2 Clans
+ $65 for all unlocked Ronin
= $ 225 total

Alternative:
. $100 Ninja Master for 1st 4 Clans & SGs
+$100 Elemental remaining 2 Clans, 4 Shrines & 2nd set SGs
+ $15 for Jorogumo
= $ 215 total

**PsychoticStorm**

So whats the difference between the two sets, or whats is the point in getting the ninja master set?

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

t's all down to the shrine ninja clans which just use the basic rules and are identical models in different colour plastic

The elemental master set comes with 4x shrine ninja clans and you get to choose 2 of the main clans (which use the fancier more complex special rules)

the ninja master set lets you choose 4 of the main clans but has none of the shine clans

if you want lots of minis the elemental master is the best deal, but for variety pick ninja master

**TheDraconicLord**

OMFG, this month is getting ridiculous. First it's Adeptus Mechanicus now this Kickstarter. This will probably be the first Soda Pop Kickstarter I will back so I'd like to know:

- The previous kickstarters, any problems with them?

- The shipping is an estimate of 20$ for Europe. From past experiences, is this "estimate" true, or will I have a very unpleasant surprise?

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Relic Knights their partnership with CMON was late by over a year with terrible communications

but

after they split with CMON their Forgotten King KS was well run with great communications and is delivering (wave 1) at the moment only about 3 months late

they charges actual shipping costs which to the UK came to $26 for Forgotten King (main game box and a couple of add ons)

**TheDraconicLord**

Thanks Orlando, that's all I needed to know.

I'm in, those miniatures are far too damn cool to miss.