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2015/03/12 21:27:57
Subject: Powdered Alchohol now legal, will be sold comercially
Some people do things because they can. I feel like that’s precisely the case here with “Palcohol” founder Mark Phillips. I don’t deny that he saw a use for his product and went after that, but no one in their right mind would look at powdered alcohol and think, “Oh, that’s a great idea!”
The Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau approved Palcohol on March 10th.
On their website, Phillips complains that people have been focused on the negative aspects and possibilities of Palc0hol. He mentions that “no one has ever tried Palcohol so all the criticisms are just speculation.” Well… that’s true. Palcohol has not been made available to the market yet, but consumers have had experience with other powder substances – MDMA, (crushed) meth, cocaine, etc.
People are prone to abuse and overdoing things, testing their limits and, in general, being idiots. I’ve witnessed people crush an ecstasy pill, rail it, complain about how much it burns, and then do another. At a summer internship at a drug abuse clinic, I learned how tampons can be soaked in alcohol and then inserted to bypass the liver and go directly to the blood. People. Are. Stupid. If Phillips doesn’t think that his product has room for abuse, then he’s stupid, too.
It seems that he’s not a terrible businessman, though, as he does point out that there are “possibilities” for abuse.
“Listen, people can snort black pepper….so do we ban it? No, just because a few goofballs use a product irresponsibly doesn’t mean you ban it.”
I understand his argument to an extent – after all, goofballs will be goofballs. But when you open the public up to something like this, with the potential for abuse on yourself and others, it’s bad news bears.
The website, and probably the product, will be plastered with cautions of “Use responsibly” because they know that people won’t. It’s a legal liability waiver that essentially gets them out of trouble because, “Oh, but we provided a disclaimer. It’s the public’s fault how they use it.” Knowingly releasing a product to the open market that has a possibility for abuse is essentially third-degree murder in my opinion. Sure, you didn’t shoot anyone, but you loaded the gun, so to speak.
I’m all for drug legalization and such, but I think prevention and awareness are more of a pressing issue here. As more research chemicals flood the market while pure substances and harmless substances are subjected to Schedule 1 classification, potentially dangerous legal substances like powdered alcohol can enter the market. It’s a seriously backward system.
If you’d like, you can read how Phillips justifies his product on his website in a list of pros and cons
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I give it a week until some teen dies from snorting it
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2015/03/12 21:37:36
Subject: Powdered Alchohol now legal, will be sold comercially
Interesting as a product, but yeah, in an age where kids snort hand sanitizer and light their balls on fire it'll probably get pulled after some kid dies from it (even though thousands of kids die just as easily from liquid alcohol).
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2015/03/12 22:18:04
Subject: Powdered Alchohol now legal, will be sold comercially
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2015/03/12 22:25:39
Subject: Powdered Alchohol now legal, will be sold comercially
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Powdered alcohol? Is that even possible?
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This is obviously bad news but I hate ALL government restrictions on freedom of choice. Just a new tool for date-rape artists. They don't even need to drug the girls anymore - just poor more powdered alcohol into their drinks and they get drunk much faster. With no evidence of foul play. Girls need to be aware of this pronto.
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2015/03/13 18:26:00
Subject: Powdered Alchohol now legal, will be sold comercially
Xenomancers wrote: This is obviously bad news but I hate ALL government restrictions on freedom of choice. Just a new tool for date-rape artists. They don't even need to drug the girls anymore - just poor more powdered alcohol into their drinks and they get drunk much faster. With no evidence of foul play. Girls need to be aware of this pronto.
According to the websites FAQs, it takes over a minute of constant stirring to dissipate the powder completely. No guy wold be able to just drop it in while she isn't looking, and its stupid to accept drinks from strangers if you didn't watch the barkeep pour it. So I don't see it being used for date rape.
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2015/03/13 18:43:56
Subject: Powdered Alchohol now legal, will be sold comercially
Xenomancers wrote: This is obviously bad news but I hate ALL government restrictions on freedom of choice. Just a new tool for date-rape artists. They don't even need to drug the girls anymore - just poor more powdered alcohol into their drinks and they get drunk much faster. With no evidence of foul play. Girls need to be aware of this pronto.
Like in what situation is a guy giving a girl drink that isnt already spiked anyway?
If it really is a powder, then you likely could. Although that would probably not be a very fast way to imbibe it.
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The hype is really overblown. One package only makes one standard drink, so to kill yourself by snorting it you would literally need Tony Montana sized piles of it and would more likely die from lung complications before the alcohol. It's gonna be a niche market for backpackers like me, and not really much else. All the fear mongering is kinda ridiculous,
2015/03/14 14:37:42
Subject: Powdered Alchohol now legal, will be sold comercially
I cant talk for anyone else but after a long trek or hike I have never craved a Cosmopolitan or a 'Powderita'. I might like a brandy or something so I just pull out a hip flask.
I could also say that a frosty beer might be ahead of cocktail when finishing a hike or something, but I am usually in sight of a pub by then anyway - So why the need for the powder?
Unless you are a raging alcoholic In which case you would substitute your Kendall mint cake for Tesco Value Gin in your rucksack.
Seems too niche to be niche.
Looking at the website the stuff isn't even manufactured yet so I doubt this is even going to be a thing come summer in the states.
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