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He's mentioned a desire to do more Conquest books, as the ability to 'pan out' to the wider conflict instead of specific battles would be good.

Slightly worried about that. I've said before I really hope they do not go down the BL route and do a whole bunch of side campgains without moving the overall story on.
Sure its good to flesh out some of the other battles that occured but not at the expense of making the series into a 30 book juggarnaut =/

Can somebody with the Tempest book confirm what the Ultramarines legion rule is?

Holy Moly!!!

Every legion gets an army wide buff in games of Horus heresy. Iron hands for example get effectively pls 1 toughness, imperial fists an extra bs with bolt weapons.

So, what does an Ultramarines army get? Not sure if I was being clear about what I was referring to before.

From b&c

Ultramarine Fulmentarus Terminator Strike squad - Cataphractii armour, combo bolter, power maul and Pertiarch Targetter (additional rules depending on how many squad members are in the unit, ranging from Night Vision to Tank Hunters through to -1 cover save). All members can swap the combi bolter for a combi weapon, Reaper Autocannon or a Cyclone launcher - all must have same option

Spoke to Alan Bligh, book 6 may not be second part of the Ultramar campaign - the order has gone fluid again. He's mentioned a desire to do more Conquest books, as the ability to 'pan out' to the wider conflict instead of specific battles would be good. No firm clue what the next book is, could be anything at this point.

Translation: We're going #FullBlackLibrary, and will now be padding out the HH with filler books until the end of time. Looking forward to Prospero? See you in 2020! Siege of Terra? Part one should be out before the Sun grows dim. Not sure about parts 2 through 300 in that series though. Probably after our star has collapsed into a Black Hole. Make sure to pick up the Store Exclusive book with the Blood Angel Legion rules in it. Available only for 18 seconds in the London store on the 29th of Feb 2016. The Blood Angel rules won't ever be in print again after that, so better get there soon - only 3 copies will ever be printed!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Spoke to Alan Bligh, book 6 may not be second part of the Ultramar campaign - the order has gone fluid again. He's mentioned a desire to do more Conquest books, as the ability to 'pan out' to the wider conflict instead of specific battles would be good. No firm clue what the next book is, could be anything at this point.

Translation: We're going #FullBlackLibrary, and will now be padding out the HH with filler books until the end of time. Looking forward to Prospero? See you in 2020! Siege of Terra? Part one should be out before the Sun grows dim. Not sure about parts 2 through 300 in that series though. Probably after our star has collapsed into a Black Hole. Make sure to pick up the Store Exclusive book with the Blood Angel Legion rules in it. Available only for 18 seconds in the London store on the 29th of Feb 2016. The Blood Angel rules won't ever be in print again after that, so better get there soon - only 3 copies will ever be printed!

Well. Heresy was FW piggybacking BL's success with that line from the start. They can't really overtake them in the story and they sure as hell stopped doing anything creative and original that isn't copy-&-paste (the increasingly dull) Black Library stuff with added game-stats ~2012.

Wonderwolf wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Spoke to Alan Bligh, book 6 may not be second part of the Ultramar campaign - the order has gone fluid again. He's mentioned a desire to do more Conquest books, as the ability to 'pan out' to the wider conflict instead of specific battles would be good. No firm clue what the next book is, could be anything at this point.

Translation: We're going #FullBlackLibrary, and will now be padding out the HH with filler books until the end of time. Looking forward to Prospero? See you in 2020! Siege of Terra? Part one should be out before the Sun grows dim. Not sure about parts 2 through 300 in that series though. Probably after our star has collapsed into a Black Hole. Make sure to pick up the Store Exclusive book with the Blood Angel Legion rules in it. Available only for 18 seconds in the London store on the 29th of Feb 2016. The Blood Angel rules won't ever be in print again after that, so better get there soon - only 3 copies will ever be printed!

Well. Heresy was FW piggybacking BL's success with that line from the start. They can't really overtake them in the story and they sure as hell stopped doing anything creative and original that isn't copy-&-paste (the increasingly dull) Black Library stuff with added game-stats ~2012.

Yeah, Emperor forbid FW leap again of black library and ruin the ending! Who will win the Heresy??

Waiting on a pic of the open Warlord head, I really want to see what the cockpit looks like.

They already explained why Prospero has been delayed.


It is a collossal release. Two very unique marine legions. Spire guard models. Potentially new armies or at the very least kits to represent Custodes and sisters of silence.

Considering GW hasn't been able to make Sisters model in getting on 20 years Iam not fussed by another few with forgeworld.

It will take significantly more work than all the other previous books and it's not surprising that they are taking so long.


Also, seriously. What are the Ultramarines legion rules. It's the first anyone wit that book would look for. So far I've seen one dodgy pic of Ventanos and that's it. Considering this is an ultra focus release that's pretty poor.

I am more curious to see if Lorgar and his cronies have any rule changes/ updates or if there are a new version entirely

 Predaking wrote:
I am more curious to see if Lorgar and his cronies have any rule changes/ updates or if there are a new version entirely

Since I have a few k of ultramarines Iam way more interested in knowing what their actual legion rules are. Instead of an updated rule set for an already complete legion.

The books been for sale for three hour and nobody has posted this yet.

 BrookM wrote:
Waiting on a pic of the open Warlord head, I really want to see what the cockpit looks like.

Stand by for disappointment

Only two moderatii? Not good....

Looking forward to the chaos knight and daemon.

The walking Lord of Skulls looks very nice, wonder how much that will be, does it need all the sprues?

2 Moderatii and a Princeps in the head. Probably a whole bunch of servitors/tech priests and other staff mooching about in the rest of the body.


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 GiraffeX wrote:
Looking forward to the chaos knight and daemon.

The walking Lord of Skulls looks very nice, wonder how much that will be, does it need all the sprues?

I suspect he'll probably have all the sprues like with the plastic chassis'd tanks.

Here she is.

 stompygitz wrote:
Here she is.

Bit late buddy- someone beat you to the punch a few pages back.

Does anybody actually have the Tempest book yet?

 BrookM wrote:
Waiting on a pic of the open Warlord head, I really want to see what the cockpit looks like.

...And and an alternative head:



Source: http://millests.blogspot.co.at/

I'm going to wait for the official, non-shaky cam pictures.

Personally, I really like the Warlord, and I think the alternate head makes it look a lot less Knight-like too.
As for only 2 Moderatii, all the books I've read that go into detail of the Warlord's crew only have 2 Moderatii too (Priests/Lords of Mars, Mechanicus). Granted they are all Graham McNeill books.

Loving Sigismund and Guilliman, I particularly like how Guilliman is sort of the mirror of Horus, as both are the strategic genius for their faction. I also like the very Byzantine angle FW is taking the Ultramarines down, suits them perfectly with Ultramar basically being the Eastern Imperium during this period.

Hoping for more pictures of the Warlord weapons, want to see the plasma weapons. Looks like an Apocalypse missile launcher is visible in that last image.

The Stormbird is awesome! Also, for those dissapointed by it looking like a Thunderhawk, the fluff on the side does state that it is the smallest Stormbird pattern, and basically the direct precursor to the Thunderhawk, so maybe FW will come out with a more radical, earlier pattern of Stormbird in the future.

Hmm, I wonder if there are any WIP's of the new Mechanicus stuff. The Ordinatus WIP looked awesome.

Yes it's a warlord.

You will probably never play against one much less own one yourself.

Spamming more pics of it and it's rules won't magically give you one of the models.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Yes it's a warlord.

You will probably never play against one much less own one yourself.

Spamming more pics of it and it's rules won't magically give you one of the models.

...ok?

Love the alternate head. Very retro. The missile launchers are a nice design as well. Glad they didn't go for the giant round launchers of old.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Yes it's a warlord.

You will probably never play against one much less own one yourself.

Spamming more pics of it and it's rules won't magically give you one of the models.

...ok?

I've been asking for five hours for what te ultramarines rules are. A simple question that takes two seconds to answer and unlike the warlord is more important to your average game of Horus heresy. But people who have the book have simply ignored this question.

I'll just wait until end of May when I buy the book since clearly the net just wants to spite me.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Yes it's a warlord.

You will probably never play against one much less own one yourself.

Spamming more pics of it and it's rules won't magically give you one of the models.

...ok?

I've been asking for five hours for what te ultramarines rules are. A simple question that takes two seconds to answer and unlike the warlord is more important to your average game of Horus heresy. But people who have the book have simply ignored this question.

I'll just wait until end of May when I buy the book since clearly the net just wants to spite me.

That poor attitude won't get the same question you've been spamming for the last few pages answered. I suggest a little patience instead of having a strop.

 Totalwar1402 wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Totalwar1402 wrote:
Yes it's a warlord.

You will probably never play against one much less own one yourself.

Spamming more pics of it and it's rules won't magically give you one of the models.

...ok?

I've been asking for five hours for what te ultramarines rules are. A simple question that takes two seconds to answer and unlike the warlord is more important to your average game of Horus heresy. But people who have the book have simply ignored this question.

I'll just wait until end of May when I buy the book since clearly the net just wants to spite me.

Or the guys with the book aren't online or reading the book themselves. Not everyone with the book is on Dakka right now.
I'm looking forward to it too, but I'm confident we'll know by the end of the day.

It's a simple question. If you actually played Horus Heresy then you would understand that the legion army wide rules are THE most important rules in these books. They differentiate what is essentially the same army list and give it a unique flavour.

That and the stats of Gulliman I simply assumed would be posted pretty quickly. But instead people have the book and are refusing to talk about this stuff by instead are posting irrelevant crap about the warlord which you will probably never see on the tabletop.

Spamming? You mean like once every hour as the conversation moves on. That's not spamming that's keeping things in the loop.