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Should we be expecting the next Primarch reveal at the open day? I seem to remember talk of another Primarch being almost done at the weekender, so hopefully we see one or more of the book 3 primarchs.

 Pete Melvin wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
It's an amazing model but will mostly be reserved for collection purposes, or possibly a "everything against the Warlord" match on the rare occasion. Moving this model seems to be on the side of fairly dangerous- I'm guessing it gets its own seatbelt on the way to the store!

Exalted as now I'm imagining people watching some poor neckbeard trying to manuever this thing into a baby seat then driving off with "Warlord Titan on Board" in his back window.

Aaand exalted...

Haighus wrote:I find it interesting that there is no free experimental rules PDF for using the Warlord in 40k yet- the email about Titans I just got from FW today links to book 5 for rules, so at the moment they are expecting house-ruling essentially for 40k. It will probably be in the next Imperial Armour.

BrookM wrote:Well, the rules state that you can use it in your regular games of 40k.

Plus there is a 30k force org chart that allows you to take 1-3 lords of war as your primary detachment. So you could legally field the Warlord and nothing else, call it a day.

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 Kosake wrote:

 Pete Melvin wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
It's an amazing model but will mostly be reserved for collection purposes, or possibly a "everything against the Warlord" match on the rare occasion. Moving this model seems to be on the side of fairly dangerous- I'm guessing it gets its own seatbelt on the way to the store!

Exalted as now I'm imagining people watching some poor neckbeard trying to manuever this thing into a baby seat then driving off with "Warlord Titan on Board" in his back window.

Aaand exalted...

Can we get a size comparison between a Warlord Titan and a baby if anyone has both?

 Rygnan wrote:
Should we be expecting the next Primarch reveal at the open day? I seem to remember talk of another Primarch being almost done at the weekender, so hopefully we see one or more of the book 3 primarchs.

Possibly, at least a WIP of one. I hope it's Perturabo or Corax.

From the GW newsfeed today:



Not really news, I know, but still, lovely high quality version of the Tempest cover art.

So gorgeous.

 Accolade wrote:
It's an amazing model but will mostly be reserved for collection purposes, or possibly a "everything against the Warlord" match on the rare occasion. Moving this model seems to be on the side of fairly dangerous- I'm guessing it gets its own seatbelt on the way to the store!

IIRC Foda Bett designed a titan with bendy legs for just that reason. There mgiht be a pic somewhere in the gallery.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Rygnan wrote:
Should we be expecting the next Primarch reveal at the open day? I seem to remember talk of another Primarch being almost done at the weekender, so hopefully we see one or more of the book 3 primarchs.

Possibly, at least a WIP of one. I hope it's Perturabo or Corax.

I'm thinking if they do show one off it'll be Rogal Dorn, what with all the other IF stuff they've been doing lately

 Rygnan wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Rygnan wrote:
Should we be expecting the next Primarch reveal at the open day? I seem to remember talk of another Primarch being almost done at the weekender, so hopefully we see one or more of the book 3 primarchs.

Possibly, at least a WIP of one. I hope it's Perturabo or Corax.

I'm thinking if they do show one off it'll be Rogal Dorn, what with all the other IF stuff they've been doing lately

I know at the last event Simon Egan mentioned something about the one he's working on has some hurdles to overcome, I think people took it to be Corax because of the pinions, I think they were having trouble with them before; and I can't see Dorn having many hurdles to overcome, he seems quite straightforward. Plus the Raven Guard and the Iron Warriors have got hardly anything, would be nice to throw them a bone.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I know at the last event Simon Egan mentioned something about the one he's working on has some hurdles to overcome, I think people took it to be Corax because of the pinions, I think they were having trouble with them before; and I can't see Dorn having many hurdles to overcome, he seems quite straightforward. Plus the Raven Guard and the Iron Warriors have got hardly anything, would be nice to throw them a bone.

Did they not mention Dorn's huge chainsword to be an issue as well?

I would love to see Perturabo. He is one of my favorite primarchs. I would be tempted to order him, but first I would have to get Night Haunter or my legion may disown me.

Edit:Can anyone with one of the primarchs tell me how easy it would be to put a helmet on one? I can't paint faces to save my life.

You'd have to get the right sized helmet... They're a fair bit bigger than marines. Not hugely, but enough that a marine helmet would look really silly probably.

 Lord Blackscale wrote:
I would love to see Perturabo. He is one of my favorite primarchs. I would be tempted to order him, but first I would have to get Night Haunter or my legion may disown me.

Edit:Can anyone with one of the primarchs tell me how easy it would be to put a helmet on one? I can't paint faces to save my life.

So far all heads of the Primarchs are separate ... so if you have a fitting helmet it should be no problem to use it.

 ImAGeek wrote:
You'd have to get the right sized helmet... They're a fair bit bigger than marines. Not hugely, but enough that a marine helmet would look really silly probably.

That's the one thing that always bugged me about the Lion Helm with Azrael for Dark Angels. If that's Lion El'Johnson's helmet then I'm a chinaman.

Well, maybe some great artificer who had never met him made it as a gift to standard Marine sizes and the Lion got it and was like "Well, uh, that's... lovely. Thank you, Magos, very... interesting. Do you have the receipt?".

Well all the primarchs had their own uniqueness. Angron was short, Russ had pointy teeth, Kurze was pastey white, Vulkan had a bad case of red eye, perhaps Lion'el had a tiny head.

ARGH wrong thread sorry! forget i said anything here... The Warlord is pretty darn cool isnt it yall!

Not sure what that has to do with Forge World..

I'm guessing he just posted it in the wrong thread haha.

Yeah, finding a helmet that would fit is probably impossible. I would even pay extra for one though. The only primarch I have seen so far with a head i liked was Konrad, but that's because he looks like the murderous sociopath he is.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
You'd have to get the right sized helmet... They're a fair bit bigger than marines. Not hugely, but enough that a marine helmet would look really silly probably.

That's the one thing that always bugged me about the Lion Helm with Azrael for Dark Angels. If that's Lion El'Johnson's helmet then I'm a chinaman.

When Azrael first came out, Lion El'Johnson wasn't necessarily anything more than a legendary Space Marine Commander...

 Lord Blackscale wrote:
Yeah, finding a helmet that would fit is probably impossible. I would even pay extra for one though. The only primarch I have seen so far with a head i liked was Konrad, but that's because he looks like the murderous sociopath he is.

I like Horus' head. I would pay extra for certain Primarchs helmets, Vulkans would be cool and I'd love to see the Khans in model form. I wager Alpharius will probably come with a helmet.

Well, to be far to Horus I never liked Abbadon's head either. If I ever buy him he will get a helmet. I just don't like marines without helmets.

BTW ImAGeek, who is your new avatar? I am digging it.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
You'd have to get the right sized helmet... They're a fair bit bigger than marines. Not hugely, but enough that a marine helmet would look really silly probably.

That's the one thing that always bugged me about the Lion Helm with Azrael for Dark Angels. If that's Lion El'Johnson's helmet then I'm a chinaman.

When Azrael first came out, Lion El'Johnson wasn't necessarily anything more than a legendary Space Marine Commander...

Think I wasn't even aware of 40k's existence when he came out then lol. I was about 6 or 7 lol.

 Lord Blackscale wrote:
Well, to be far to Horus I never liked Abbadon's head either. If I ever buy him he will get a helmet. I just don't like marines without helmets.

BTW ImAGeek, who is your new avatar? I am digging it.

It's a Word Bearer breacher marine from Tempest:

 Enigwolf wrote:
Look at us discussing Titan FOC/ORBAT like they're any normal 40k unit now. Oh, how far we've come since the earliest days of GW...

The bulk of the Titan fluff comes from 1989 and the release of Codex Titanicus for 1st edition Epic. Andy Chambers wrote consistent fluff and was comprehensive in his explanations. So all this is not new, second editionAdeptus Titanicusrounded out the fluff roughly described many of the Legios and included Emperor class titans for the first time, that was in 1995 I think.

So what we are seeing is a slow reawakening of the fluff from dormancy. Though Forgeworld has added stuff of their own, and even changed armament of all the Titans except the Warhound. The Reaver and Warlord are not legal for Epic with regards to main armament, and the Warlord contradicts the current Warlord datafax. The new measure is official though.

I dont think the fluff has changed significantly though, from what I have seen from Talos Campaign, and Doom of Mymeara the Titan Legions description does not go against Andy Chamber's vision from 1989. Titans came into Epic partly because of the popularity of Battletech at the time, the Clans storyline had just been introduced. Warlord titans were the most common titans in existence in the fluff because they were sold in plastic boxsets of six, wheras Warhounds and Reavers were in metal in blisters. To encourage variety for the very common Warlord titans you could even reduce or remove the carapace armament in return for a performance boost. In 1st edition Epic Warlords counted for over half of all Titans, in the 41st Millenium Reavers do. This need not be a contradiction, 1st Edition Epic was set in the Horus Heresy and both Titans and space marines were more common then.

Good Times:

Kurtz the scout Ace hunting for parts to replace a MIU, from memory from last reading the story attached to this picture in 1990. Kurtz was a very laid back individual for a Titan Princeps, from the story the titan is capable if limited independent movement and thought, but not combat. The Titan wasnt just parked that way, its actually watching Kurtz work. It was not capable of combat though, even though two Moderati were aboard. In 1st edition Titans didn't include a tech priest, that came with the next edition, but did make sense as each Titan had an accessible engineering area.





Notice the emergency loadout on the Reaver, Titans would fight Titans, and survive, but their weapon modules often wouldn't. Salvage was important, you can see the Battltech 3025 ethos throughout the product.
Loved all this, Orks and Eldar got a significant write up also.

Man, if GW could do Plastic Epic Titans to the standards of their FW Titans that would be fantstic. I think the icing on the cake would be 6mm scale plastic terrain. Mind you, in the meantime there's so many suppliers of 6mm off-brand Epic stuff it's kind of incredible.

Cheers, Orlanth. As someone who never really played Epic, I appreciate that post! (exalted).

Also, has anyone solved the mystery of how Abaddon fits his topknot in a helmet? Or is it still sorcery?

 Enigwolf wrote:
Cheers, Orlanth. As someone who never really played Epic, I appreciate that post! (exalted).

Also, has anyone solved the mystery of how Abaddon fits his topknot in a helmet? Or is it still sorcery?

I thought he just never wears one haha, obviously the topknot is more important than his life.

I imagine that he takes it out of the topknot. He is mentioned as not wearing it up several times in the first HH novel.