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Ok I'm in, I am a sucker for Blaine.

What's a brood mother? Is it what finally adds some character to the veermyn?

Ronnie mentions them in an interview they breed lots and lots of new VeerMyn think Alien Queen although probably a lot less mobile and fighty. It looks like it's the $200k goal unless they start to narrow the goals now that it's slowing down.

I think it's a momma rat, but I'm not sure how that's going to translate into a functional DZ unit... will she be ogre sized? Some kind of giant bloated monster that spawns rats? Just some lady-rat that happens to have babies when she isn't doing other stuff? Who knows.

I'm curious though.

Is that why all the veermyn are dressed so neatly, because their brood mother picks out their clothes for them?

Thanks for the price estimates. I will add to first post breakdown.

Muahahaha broodmother+cleaner veermyn aesthetic makes with laugh.

Those estimates seem off, $25 for 5 is RRP for Enforcer peacekeepers, and pretty much nothing else.

The forge guard pricing is probably the best place to look for a unit of 6 models (5 + extra character/support model). Those are $20 RRP currently (and £10 in the UK, so we get a much better deal this side of the pond with those).

Either way, it is fairly pricy. I will probably wait on the inevitable Warpath release of a box of 20 (or army deals) before getting loads of nightstalkers or pathfinders.

On the other hand, the industrial terrain might be undervalued a bit there.. if it is a single battlezone, those retail for $40 each.

Good call. I will update.

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Yeah, unless it gets crazy cheap, I'll just get my one of everything type pledge and stop there.

Taaloc wrote:
A dollar here also, although I really like the vermin. More than I thought I would. I'm interested to see what else is 'unlocked' for them. Pathfinders not so much. I don't think they look as good as the renders, but that may just be down to the in house painter's style. I find something about it off, can't put my finger on it, but it was the same with the Mars Attacks stuff. Just doesn't sell the figures to me.

Their torsos are off. I will write more later, but they need some more work in the proportions.

I'm in for a dollar. I may upgrade to the all-in pledge after the pledge manager comes out. For sure though, when it does come out I'm planning on getting some Enforcers.

My price estimate was based purely on the last KS. Followed by the rest of the after-KS estimate being based on regular plastic enforcers/terrain. If those are a bit off, apologies, but since most of us buying it are at KS prices...those value estimates should be accurate. It's already at a decent enough deal. Just not at awesome yet.

Triple9 wrote:
The HIPS miniatures are selling for $25 a sprue at retail...at least the Peacekeepers are. They were priced at $10 add-on as well in the last KS, so the value is in there over retail, it's just a matter of whether you want/need that much.

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/catalog/product/view/id/43278/s/mgdze05-1/

Yeah, but that retail price is a sick joke. The enforcers cost more per mini than the superior Valkir*, and even their KS price seems a bit high for the limitations of the kit.

*Whether or not one prefers the design or aesthetics of the enforcers, the kit is clearly less sharply detailed, the pieces fit together poorly in comparison to the Valkir, and the sprue comes with a lot less in terms of extras. You can't even give all five enforcers the same helmet.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Those estimates seem off, $25 for 5 is RRP for Enforcer peacekeepers, and pretty much nothing else.

The forge guard pricing is probably the best place to look for a unit of 6 models (5 + extra character/support model). Those are $20 RRP currently (and £10 in the UK, so we get a much better deal this side of the pond with those).

Either way, it is fairly pricy. I will probably wait on the inevitable Warpath release of a box of 20 (or army deals) before getting loads of nightstalkers or pathfinders.

On the other hand, the industrial terrain might be undervalued a bit there.. if it is a single battlezone, those retail for $40 each.

Really? I've never seen a Battlezone for more than around $25. Probably wouldn't buy one for more than that either.

I'll update the terrain price later. As for comparisons with other companies, /shrug. I'm just calculating mantic retail for the first post.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

Triple9 wrote:
The HIPS miniatures are selling for $25 a sprue at retail...at least the Peacekeepers are. They were priced at $10 add-on as well in the last KS, so the value is in there over retail, it's just a matter of whether you want/need that much.

http://www.miniaturemarket.com/catalog/product/view/id/43278/s/mgdze05-1/

Yeah, but that retail price is a sick joke. The enforcers cost more per mini than the superior Valkir*, and even their KS price seems a bit high for the limitations of the kit.

*Whether or not one prefers the design or aesthetics of the enforcers, the kit is clearly less sharply detailed, the pieces fit together poorly in comparison to the Valkir, and the sprue comes with a lot less in terms of extras. You can't even give all five enforcers the same helmet.

Agree with you 100%. I made the mistake of buying Mars Attacks Martian Marines and Stealth Martians at retail. Mantics RRP is a bit...odd, sometimes. . I was simply comparing value of the pledge now vs buying at retail later. Unless things change and they throw a bunch of scenery in, I'll probably end up dropping down to getting just the rulebook and throwing in for a sprue of Pathfinders. The DOG is this KS's Mawbeast, which almost drove me over the edge and not buy the Marauders at all.

Could this be the Veer-myn "Brood mother"?



I like those back attachments.

Looks a bit like a big brawler.

That's one sexy brood mare.

Er.

In miniature terms.

It looks more like something you leave back to guard the brood mother to me. Also, want. On a sprue. Maybe 3 on a sprue? Want.

Love that the Mantic Leg Syndrome extends to quadrupeds. I'd love to see what happens to arachnids under the same aesthetic. It would be like the Powers of Ten video, but for legs.


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It looks more like something you leave back to guard the brood mother to me. Also, want. On a sprue. Maybe 3 on a sprue? Want.

Oh man, in hard plastic?

I never thought I'd say this, but I hope there's a way to make it into a fantasy mini off the sprue.

If you're thinking Skaven, I'm sure you could just do the skaven/orc method of bolting on extra plates over any armor bits that look too scifi. And if it's Skaven, you could always introduce some warpstone mutations to cover up scifi bits too.


Well... I know resin and metal are possibilities here... but surely it won't be metal, and resin seems... well in the same place as metal for this really. I really wanna see the big rat beast on sprues, fingers are crossed. And the mono bikes... I would love to see sprues of the monobikes. I don't play 40k anymore but I always wanted a unit or two of scout bikers, and I still kinda do.

Heath Foley does a wonderful job time and time again with his concept art, that Blaine is exceptional.

Maybe the buck pledge is the way to go AzazelX.

That looks more like the 'Giant Rats' mentioned than a brood mother...

Looks like a giant ratty version of a Maulerfiend and Exocrine from WH40K

I think the current deal is half a battlezone's worth of terrain, actually. One standard BZ is 32 full size panels (or smaller bits with a roughly equivalent total surface area) and what's shown here so far is half that.

Enjoying the project so far. Personally I'd have prefered Blane in a Mech. (predator in a powerloader-esk) The Predator on Endor vibe is actually growing on me though. If this project follows previous examples I'm sure the sweet spot will become a no brainer. I like the option to play Veermyn but would actually like to see more Rebs/Mercs. There's a bunch of Dreadball/DBX species yet to be introduced to Deadzone.

Na voltron Blaine will be saved for the warpath kickstarter

I want a mini of Blaine standing over Ronnie Renton, with a chain link leash, forcing him to sign thank you cards to all backers.

It's scenic. And I could see Mantic doing it!

Thats the Brood Mother



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