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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/25 19:14:54
Subject: Firing weapons clarification
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So I heard someone who I might be playing soon has always measured range for shooting from the tip of the weapon.
I've always measured it from the base of a model (vehicles aside since they say fire from the vehicle's weapon).
What's the correct way to fire weapons for other units (such as MC, Infantry, etc). It seems to me you could pose (e.g. a Riptide) to be leaning forward and be modelling for advantage if you fire from the weapon base..
A reference would be great to have too, thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/25 19:15:44
Subject: Re:Firing weapons clarification
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Measure from base to base, unless a vehicle basically
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WH40K
Iron Wardens 11k (Iron Hands Clan Raukaan with Blood Angels Allies)
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Irontoof Guttasnarks's Warghband 0k in development |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/25 19:28:52
Subject: Firing weapons clarification
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Roarin' Runtherd
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Base to base seems has always been my go to, but it is likely to be problematic with the "optional" 32mm bases flying around now, and those can result is some tweaked advantages until they become more clarified
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Painted Armies
1350 With DreadMob budz
1100 BloodRavens |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/25 19:37:46
Subject: Firing weapons clarification
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Base to base, unless vehicles. 32mm has no real affect on this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/25 19:38:16
Subject: Firing weapons clarification
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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There's a section right at the front of the rulebook on measuring distances.
Unless its a vehicle, you always measure range from base to base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/25 19:52:52
Subject: Firing weapons clarification
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Prescient Cryptek of Eternity
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insaniak wrote:There's a section right at the front of the rulebook on measuring distances.
Unless its a vehicle, you always measure range from base to base.
If it's a Walker mounted on a base, you'd also measure base to base. Just sayin'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/25 20:04:08
Subject: Firing weapons clarification
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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No, you wouldn't.
Walkers measure weapon ranges from their weapons, like every other vehicle.
They just use the base (if they have one) for other measurement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/25 20:32:29
Subject: Firing weapons clarification
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Prescient Cryptek of Eternity
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insaniak wrote:No, you wouldn't.
Walkers measure weapon ranges from their weapons, like every other vehicle.
They just use the base (if they have one) for other measurement.
Oh wow. Brain lapse. I totally knew that. I had movement on the mind and I was just reading the Walker rules. My bad!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/26 01:03:13
Subject: Firing weapons clarification
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Flame-Rage wrote:Base to base seems has always been my go to, but it is likely to be problematic with the "optional" 32mm bases flying around now, and those can result is some tweaked advantages until they become more clarified
You still start the same measured distance from your opponent, you still move the same distance, you're still able to shoot and be shot in the exact same way as with the smaller bases..... when is the measuring different? The only differences are with how many fall under a blast template and how small of an area they can DS into, when would the size of the base affect anything to do with shooting distance? It's not like it lets you shoot your opponent a turn sooner or something like that. Automatically Appended Next Post: As for OP, you always measure from the base (unless you're dealing with vehicles). Otherwise I wouldn't make models with bolters hanging at their side or against their chest!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/03/26 01:08:41
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/03/26 01:14:18
Subject: Firing weapons clarification
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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kingbobbito wrote:You still start the same measured distance from your opponent, you still move the same distance, you're still able to shoot and be shot in the exact same way as with the smaller bases..... when is the measuring different? The only differences are with how many fall under a blast template and how small of an area they can DS into, when would the size of the base affect anything to do with shooting distance? It's not like it lets you shoot your opponent a turn sooner or something like that.
You will also have a difference when shooting out to the sides or behind... Two models with different sized bases moving directly forwards the same distance will wind up with their front edges in the same place, but the rest of the base on the larger one will be further away, so that gives you a slight bonus when shooting in any direction other than directly forwards.
Of course, that also works the same for shots coming back at your model, and really, for the difference between the 25mm and 32mm base, the effect is negligible.
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