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When the dex comes out, I'll probably end up getting them

There's going to be a dex?

lliu wrote:
There's going to be a dex?

If rumors are right, there will be 2

Well, great news on the Doctrine front... its not a DEBUFF! :-)

This week's WD accidentally reveals one, and it seems you give one army-wide "order" per turn.

The first grants models +3 BS, but -2 WS for the turn.

So it sounds like you need to either list build, or very tactically think about what your army will be doing that turn, in a macro-sense, but they do seem to provide pretty deep situational bonuses!

Combined Mechanicum/AdMech is now the single coolest army in 40k.

AdMech on their own are going to be super-boring gameplay wise.

But definitely bring on an army that'll contain: character HQ, 3 HQ choices, walkers, MCs, flyers, knights, infantry, jetpacks, jump packs, beasts, tanks and giant freight trains o' pain.

to answer op, I like the infantry models.

Can someone tell me if there are any admech/skittari bikes or jetbikes in the fluff?

ThrashPower wrote:
to answer op, I like the infantry models.

Can someone tell me if there are any admech/skittari bikes or jetbikes in the fluff?

In the Grim Darkness of the Far Future errebody has bikes!!

But seriously, I don't think I have read any Black Library books that has anyone riding bikes to be honest? Though I mostly have read the HH series.

Dark Angels believe that they have the only Imperial Jetbike still flying in 40k. A few civilian ones appear in Malleus (Dan Abnett) however.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Dark Angels believe that they have the only Imperial Jetbike still flying in 40k. A few civilian ones appear in Malleus (Dan Abnett) however.

That may however be just a mistake on their part, though at the same time it was mentioned that Sammuel seems to end up with a fully repaired jetbike no matter how much damage his takes.

So could they have a stc somewhere?

lliu wrote:
So could they have a stc somewhere?

or they are lost in anal technicalities.

O that isnt a Jet-bike, it's a hover-scooter. We have millions of them. Hoverscooters and jetbikes are totally different dont you know. The technology that powers them is like oil and water.

I wonder if and when they will get more models. I absolutely love the skitarii and walker things, but to make an entire army out of them would be boring, not to mention very expensive.

So far we have two light walkers, four infantry and one heavy walker guaranteed by leaked images.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Well, great news on the Doctrine front... its not a DEBUFF! :-)

This week's WD accidentally reveals one, and it seems you give one army-wide "order" per turn.

The first grants models +3 BS, but -2 WS for the turn.

So it sounds like you need to either list build, or very tactically think about what your army will be doing that turn, in a macro-sense, but they do seem to provide pretty deep situational bonuses!

I bet they're gonna work like UM chapter tactics. you have a half dozen, they effect your army all at the same time, and are one use.

BrianDavion wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Well, great news on the Doctrine front... its not a DEBUFF! :-)

This week's WD accidentally reveals one, and it seems you give one army-wide "order" per turn.

The first grants models +3 BS, but -2 WS for the turn.

So it sounds like you need to either list build, or very tactically think about what your army will be doing that turn, in a macro-sense, but they do seem to provide pretty deep situational bonuses!

I bet they're gonna work like UM chapter tactics. you have a half dozen, they effect your army all at the same time, and are one use.

Still, we need to learn more.
Like +3 BS, but -2WS. First what is the point of +3 BS on an army full of BS4? Does it affect snap firing? Is there any reason you wouldnt use this on the first turn for a great alpha strike?

It just seems too weird.


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 Furyou Miko wrote:
So far we have two light walkers, four infantry and one heavy walker guaranteed by leaked images.

yes and it is rumored the heavy walker is a dual kit, one of which is a transport.

Been contemplating taking a Skitarri force to go along with my DKOK Tank list, what are you guys thoughts on Maxing out the Close Combat Dragoons with a few Iron Striders and Ranger teams?

 gmaleron wrote:
Been contemplating taking a Skitarri force to go along with my DKOK Tank list, what are you guys thoughts on Maxing out the Close Combat Dragoons with a few Iron Striders and Ranger teams?

sounds fun.

it looks like the latest leaks show us there is a formation based around the walkers. 2 dragoons and an ironstrider. so maybe go with dragoons, 3 iron striders, that's about 700 points that you could take there.

For fun based whats released I pointed up a list with:

x3 Squads of 6 Dragoons

-x3 Squads of 3 Iron Striders (2 squads with Lascannons, 1 with Autocannons)

-Rest of army made up of Ranger Squads with Haywire Rifle Special Weapon Choices.

Idea would be to be insanely fast and maneuverable with Dragoons and rush them forward while Iron Striders and Rangers seek out enemy vehicles primarily and do what they need to.

Where do i find the rules for these?
Is there a new codex?
Or are the rules in the white dwarf magazine? (Like SoB)

There are rules being released in White Dwarf, and a codex that will go up for pre-order on Saturday for £18

 Furyou Miko wrote:
There are rules being released in White Dwarf, and a codex that will go up for pre-order on Saturday for £18

So if i got a white dwarf magazine RIGHT NOW i would have the rules?

Some of them.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Some of them.

Im guessing the vanguard,walker and marksman units? (Are they called marksmen? I cant remember)

Rangers, but yes, partial rules for those four - next week brings the Sicaran infantry and one of the Doctrina Imperatives.

Hmmm... 36 bucks for a dex?

The rules for the new units (rustwalkers & infiltrators) are sexy as hell. Too bad they're so expensive. They got decent delivery (+3" to move, run and assault) but they lack survivability. FNP isn't going to help much on T3 models (Heavily modified humans with metal that replaces half or more of their organic tissue with metal, but still as squishy as a guardsman? Seems legit).

They cost more than a Triarch Praetorian but what do they really bring to the table that outclasses them? I'd take jump pack over dunestrider. You want these 4+ dudes to benefit from cover, but at the same time you really don't want them in there because terrain hinders your advance.

This codex will stand or fall by its formations and bonuses from the doctrine.

lliu wrote:
So could they have a stc somewhere?

Knowing the Angels, they more than likely have a entire Forge World dedicated to the "ONE IMPERIAL JETBIKE IN EXISTENCE, TOTES MAN".

The problem I have with the walkers is that they're made of explodium.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
The problem I have with the walkers is that they're made of explodium.

Is Explodium found in the Badass Crater of Badassitude?

commander dante wrote:

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
The problem I have with the walkers is that they're made of explodium.

Is Explodium found in the Badass Crater of Badassitude?

Yes.