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Hello everyone,

I have a tactical challenge for you. I would like to build a Dark Eldar force that would operate without trasnports (so no Venoms and no Raiders). My first thought would be to use a Webway portal for increase mobility and a solid base of Wracks and other Coven units to offer a little bit more resistence due to toughness 4 and easier access to Pain tokens supported by multiple small squads of warriors with heavy weapons for support. Fonctionnaly, I would see them like a slightly faster, but more expensive ork army. What kind of list and tactics would you build with that in mind.

Yes I am aware that this build is almost impossible and not competitive, but that's the whole point of a tactical challenge. The environment in which it's going to be used is far from being competitive and rather diverse when it comes to armies so you can see a little bit of everything (except Necron, Imperial Knight and all non-vanilla Space Marines).

Question: are Harlequin Allies allowed? A wyches/troupes army supported by 6 Shadowseers all running Phantasmancy to grant veil of tears would be pretty good for foot DE.

epronovost wrote:
Yes I am aware that this build is almost impossible and not competitive, but that's the whole point of a tactical challenge. The environment in which it's going to be used is far from being competitive and rather diverse when it comes to armies so you can see a little bit of everything (except Necron, Imperial Knight and all non-vanilla Space Marines).

I'm currently running a Coven foot list at the moment. It takes good objective placement and careful positioning, but it's actually pretty potent army once you get the hang of it. Bellow are links to reports (with diagrams) that might prove useful to you:

BR1: The Repugnant Ramblers Vs Necrons - 1250pts
BR2: The Repugnant Ramblers Vs Serpent Spam - 1250pts
BR3: The Repugnant Ramblers Vs Grey Knights - 1250pts
BR4: The Repugnant Ramblers Vs Imperial Knights - 1250pts

Hope that helps.

the_scotsman

Yes I will consider Harlequin allies (but using count has models from Fantasy Dark Elves) because I don't like the harlequin esthetic, but like some of their rules. Thanks for the suggestion.

Using only 2 detachments
CAD
Lhamaean
2x5 warriors
3x3 Talos with haywire blasters

Corpsethief Claw
5 Talos with haywire blaster

1840 points
14 Talos with 14 twin-linked haywire blasters.


It's more of a monster mash than foot, but hey, it doesn't have any transports.

Alright then, I'd do

Harlequin CAD

2x2 barebones shuriken skyweavers
3 troupes with Kiss (provides high strength AP2 attacks the wyches lack
1 Voidweaver with prism cus you have to
6 Shadowseers
1 Solitaire

Dark Eldar
Some HQ
3 wyches squads, get a Shadowseer each
Haywire Scourges
Razor wing Jetfighter
Heat Lance Reavers

The Shadowseers are dirt cheap ML2 Psykers with Sanctic (hey wyches want hammer hand) Phantasmancy (can't shoot me at all outside 24" also I have enemy target quasi-invisibility and stealth/shrouding) and telepathy (ain't nothing wrong with that)

The Solitaire is a beast and good at getting stuck in. The Harly detachment grants a special rule allowing them to fleet run+charge after turn 2, the skyweavers at very worst draw some fire and tie up small shooting units. The Voidweaver tries not to suck and earns its mandatory participation trophy every battle.

 HawaiiMatt wrote:
Using only 2 detachments
CAD
Lhamaean
2x5 warriors
3x3 Talos with haywire blasters

Corpsethief Claw
5 Talos with haywire blaster

1840 points
14 Talos with 14 twin-linked haywire blasters.


It's more of a monster mash than foot, but hey, it doesn't have any transports.

I really like this list. If you're determined to run foot DE, I would concur with HawaiiMatt and strongly recommend that Talos and/or Grotesques comprise the bulk of your army. If you want to make the list even more resilient, squeeze in one or two Cronos to buff the FNP for your heavy hitters. Running Kabal or Wych Cult foot DE is usually a good way to get tabled by turn three. Especially if your opponent brings lots of flamers and/or large blasts.

Also, it's a good idea to check out Mushkilla's battle reports using a Coven army if you haven't already done so. Grotesques + WWP can be extremely strong if you know how to use them.

Grotesques + WWP can be extremely strong if you know how to use them.

Totally agree. This is one of the few ways the army won't be completely shot off the board.
WWPs, grotesques, talos and scourges would be the way to go imo.

sweetbacon wrote:
Running Kabal or Wych Cult foot DE is usually a good way to get tabled by turn three. Especially if your opponent brings lots of flamers and/or large blasts.

This can still be a problem even with raiders. My friend once set up three raiders pretty much side by side because he had turn one. I seize the initiative, shunt forward with a dreadknight, and laid the torrent heavy incinerator across all three of them. His archon took a hit and rolled a 1 on his shadow field....*pop* We just redeployed and started another game.

If you do plan on running foot- dark eldar you need to figure out how to deal with GK. Those shunting flamers are brutal, and they completely don't mind fighting multi-wound monstrous creatures.

Belac Ynnead wrote:

sweetbacon wrote:
Running Kabal or Wych Cult foot DE is usually a good way to get tabled by turn three. Especially if your opponent brings lots of flamers and/or large blasts.

This can still be a problem even with raiders. My friend once set up three raiders pretty much side by side because he had turn one. I seize the initiative, shunt forward with a dreadknight, and laid the torrent heavy incinerator across all three of them. His archon took a hit and rolled a 1 on his shadow field....*pop* We just redeployed and started another game.

If you do plan on running foot- dark eldar you need to figure out how to deal with GK. Those shunting flamers are brutal, and they're completely don't mind fighting multi-wound monstrous creatures.

Yeah, people say that you have to cover as much as possible of the target vehicles hull, but all you have to do is target the far one, and you're good.