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 Sidstyler wrote:
So that was their idea for "saving" Fantasy; killing it dead, and then using the opportunity to try and sell more models to Space Marine players to use in their 40k armies under the guise of a new game.

Not a fan...

Sad but true

 unmercifulconker wrote:
JESUS CHRIST THOSE MODELS, ME THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL,

trying to grab the image at warseer.




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Look at those Sigmarite war machines, look at that dragon demigryphon lizard thing, look at those stellar wings, look at the kick ass sorceror

Look at it....
LOOK AT IT

DONE....PURCHASING!!!

Those models are flipping lovely! That demigrpyh thing is motuh watering....that's set tho I'm buying it...all I wanted was a picture of the models and I got that...done..buying...so happy...can't contain myself!

They did just reskin and change the arm of the Helbrute from the 40k starter but the rest look really, really cool.

Love the chaos models!! Sigmarines look pretty cool too lol

Best starter set ever!! I hope its all thats pictured and not added kits to fill it out. Either way, very good start. finished my Blightkings, time to finish my glotkin and hope they can all be fielded in the same army!!

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 NYPetey88 wrote:
They look amazing! However they look like 40K models. Someone please explain?

Games Workshop saw that Space Marines made a lot of money.

Clearly, changing everything into Space Marines will increase sales for WHF (if we can even call it that now).

You might be joking, but already people are talking about using them for Space Marine conversion/proxy.

Space Marines have infiltrated Fantasy.

I just hope there's not like 5 different Sigmar factions, each with their own army book.

Wow. What a disaster. The sigmarines are bad, and the chaos are even worse. If this is the future of Warhammer...

I love this, converting everything to 40k

 Red Viper wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 NYPetey88 wrote:
They look amazing! However they look like 40K models. Someone please explain?

Games Workshop saw that Space Marines made a lot of money.

Clearly, changing everything into Space Marines will increase sales for WHF (if we can even call it that now).

You might be joking, but already people are talking about using them for Space Marine conversion/proxy.

Space Marines have infiltrated Fantasy.

I just hope there's not like 5 different Sigmar factions, each with their own army book.

I'm joking and being serious at the same time.

Mainly crying, though. Once the "official" pictures have been released (So you can pre-order this AMAZING set!!!!!!!!11!) I'll be sending GW a Cease & Desist letter!

Oh look, and there's the Chaos half for all the CSM players to put in their 40k armies, and they don't even need to buy extra bases. Not a god damn person buying this box is going to give two gaks about the new Warhammer game and I think even GW knows that.

Ugh.

So from reading the extract under the chaos boys, these sigmarites aren't mortal beings as in part of the Empire?

Need to see the chaos at better quality before making my final judgement on these guys, love the hound with the lord.

Seems like a good starting point, fighting small first to 'open the realmgates' which I imagine will lead to something larger?

Not a fan of the chaos side at all though?! I love the current chaos warriors and stuff but these guys remind me of chaos cultists and hellbrute?

It is a little 40K, but I love the new Chaos vehicle.

 Sidstyler wrote:
Oh look, and there's the Chaos half for all the CSM players to put in their 40k armies, and they don't even need to buy extra bases. Not a god damn person buying this box is going to give two gaks about the new Warhammer game and I think even GW knows that.

Ugh.

That could be true actually... The chaos half is so 40k its ridiculous
I still like the empire/sigmar side tho the models are beautiful

Yeah the big thing does seem to be a spit of the hellbrute, which is why I wanna see it at better quality, mainly because I wasnt a fan of the hellbrute anyway and hope it looks awesome.

I do wonder if these had been ranked up on bases if people would be saying the same thing. I think the combination of the round bases and the skirmish style set up has already thrown people into the 40k frame of mind when looking and it doesn't look like fantasy to them.

Because overall the models are pretty excellent. And now their is a Sigmarite version of Chaos Warriors (which have been in the fluff forever) so I'm seeing the fluff or aesthetic issue (been playing fantasy and 40k for almost 20 years).

 chiefbigredman wrote:
Not a fan of the chaos side at all though?! I love the current chaos warriors and stuff but these guys remind me of chaos cultists and hellbrute?

I just wwant to know how we missed GW hiring Rob Liefeld as a creative director. Those chaos whatevers are right up his alley.

 Hulksmash wrote:
I do wonder if these had been ranked up on bases if people would be saying the same thing. I think the combination of the round bases and the skirmish style set up has already thrown people into the 40k frame of mind when looking and it doesn't look like fantasy to them.

Because overall the models are pretty excellent. And now their is a Sigmarite version of Chaos Warriors (which have been in the fluff forever) so I'm seeing the fluff or aesthetic issue (been playing fantasy and 40k for almost 20 years).

Except that... you know, they all actually look like Space Marines?

They look like Fantasy Terminator. Maybe old Dragio did make it back to the WHFB and showed them how to make storm shields and power hammers.

 Hulksmash wrote:
I do wonder if these had been ranked up on bases if people would be saying the same thing. I think the combination of the round bases and the skirmish style set up has already thrown people into the 40k frame of mind when looking and it doesn't look like fantasy to them.

Because overall the models are pretty excellent. And now their is a Sigmarite version of Chaos Warriors (which have been in the fluff forever) so I'm seeing the fluff or aesthetic issue (been playing fantasy and 40k for almost 20 years).

Yeah, it'd be interesting to see what the Sigmarite Knights (?) look like ranked up in a shield wall. I think it would certainly look a lot more like the old Fantasy.

Im liking all these new models.

All of them look great in the own regard, without having to compare them to la space marines and what not.

Now comparing it to Warmahoards
Sigmanoids looks way to close to it. but the chaos side looks flipin awesome.

 Kanluwen wrote:

With an explosion of light and thunder, a new age of war has begun. The warriors of the God-King, unleashed upon shafts of magical lightning have arrived in the Mortal Realms, striking the first blow in a war of vengeance.

Sooo...maybe a new faction rather than Empire itself?

Thats what im getting from reading that, will be interesting if true as I wonder what the Empire will look like now.

 unmercifulconker wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

With an explosion of light and thunder, a new age of war has begun. The warriors of the God-King, unleashed upon shafts of magical lightning have arrived in the Mortal Realms, striking the first blow in a war of vengeance.

Sooo...maybe a new faction rather than Empire itself?

Thats what im getting from reading that, will be interesting if true as I wonder what the Empire will look like now.

Space Marines, probably.

well
They are decent looking figures...but, not warhammer, and i have no desire to replace a massed fantasy game with yet another skirmish game, with an aesthetic that's really already on the market. I already had a glut of various skirmish games to play, well see how this is maybe it'll be the best skirmish game evah! but lets face it, that's pretty unlikely.

I wonder if these will be faction starters, light or dark and a few sheets of "rules" and a price point of less than the traditional two faction starters...but still high enough to be an overall price increase. I really get the feeling that if the scale of battle is going down the price per model is going to go nuts.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
I do wonder if these had been ranked up on bases if people would be saying the same thing. I think the combination of the round bases and the skirmish style set up has already thrown people into the 40k frame of mind when looking and it doesn't look like fantasy to them.

Because overall the models are pretty excellent. And now their is a Sigmarite version of Chaos Warriors (which have been in the fluff forever) so I'm seeing the fluff or aesthetic issue (been playing fantasy and 40k for almost 20 years).

Except that... you know, they all actually look like Space Marines?

Or they look like one unit in 40k that's designed to look like they are wearing archaic plate mail. They don't look a thing like standard space marines except that they are wearing armor....

But to each their own. We're going to see what we see. Personally I love the Sigmar side and like everything but the warriors on the chaos side. I see the look being good for selling starters and getting people to possibly be playing fantasy again. Whether that Fantasy will resemble the last 20 years of fantasy or not we'll see.

If this is GW's master strategy for saving Fantasy, then the company's in deeper trouble than I thought.

Sanguinary Guard and a chaplain in Terminator armour is what the empire has transformed into? Not for me...

If I want space marines, I'll buy space marines.

If I want Chaos space marines...you can see where this is going.

These models hint at a creative drought. The two systems are now virtually indistinguishable.

I've made my choice. My money's going on Flames of War: Berlin.


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 knighthaunter wrote:
well
They are decent looking figures...but, not warhammer, and i have no desire to replace a massed fantasy game with yet another skirmish game, with an aesthetic that's really already on the market. I already had a glut of various skirmish games to play, well see how this is maybe it'll be the best skirmish game evah! but lets face it, that's pretty unlikely.

I wonder if these will be faction starters, light or dark and a few sheets of "rules" and a price point of less than the traditional two faction starters...but still high enough to be an overall price increase. I really get the feeling that if the scale of battle is going down the price per model is going to go nuts.

This.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Just saw this on FB

Can anyone say war machine cygnar?

This is essentially 40k. There is almost zero difference between space marines and chaos marines in the 40k
line

Just going back to that "world has split into bubbles" thing, as a staunch traditionalist the only explosion of bubbles I want to see is the humourous one I create myself in the bath.

The models look cool though. Although the Imperial Griffon has still got a fat chest.

 Hulksmash wrote:
They don't look a thing like standard space marines except that they are wearing armor....

In your opinion. Personally I think all they need are bolters and backpacks and you'd never know the difference.

Motograter wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
Just saw this on FB

Can anyone say war machine cygnar?

This is essentially 40k. There is almost zero difference between space marines and chaos marines in the 40k
line

That's because CSM have ancient models. I mean, look at Forgeworld for proper CSM.