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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Interesting designs. I want better looks at the Khorne stuff.

But of course, me being me, I'm far more interested in the new terrain in the background.

I noticed that too.

Given what we know of the new background, one wonders if there's a gameplay element to them?

 Da Boss wrote:
Nah, sky's not falling, just not feeling the release so far. Looks competently executed but not a style I enjoy.

Oh well! More historicals for me.

Totally agree. These are very nice models, very well done, but in a style and theme I have no interest in whatsoever. I really liked the Empire as beleaguered humans fighting against monsters and hulking chaos warriors. The starter set inverts this entirely, with the only human factions we have seen so far being heroic, superbly equipped 'good guys' and a rabble of largely unarmored and conventionally armed chaos marauders.

If the two sides released in the starter set aren't supposed to be iconic or representative of the themes of the game, they're a poor choice for a starter set.

I had faint hopes that the new material released for Age of Sigmar might be compatible with the look and themes of the former WFB, so that I could ignore their storyline and continue to play games in a previous edition while still buying new models. From the starter set, that doesn't look to be a possibility. While the chaos marauders definitely fit the esthetic of the old Chaos Warrior army, they seem too big to be marauders, and too poorly equipped to be Chaos Warriors.

For the person who has no investment in the old style of play or the old look and feel, these may be great for them. I don't see anything I like, and I'm dreading half of the pages of WD being filled with a game I have no interest in, while I still like 40K a lot.

Thank goodness we still have whippy sticks.

Is it me or are there no ranged weapons in the set at all?

 -Shrike- wrote:
Thank goodness we still have whippy sticks.

every time I read whippy sticks now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2SHm8dqL9M

 Da Boss wrote:
Is it me or are there no ranged weapons in the set at all?

Just wait till we get the rules.

The Sigmarines will probably be firing bolts of lightning out their hammers.

 Aerethan wrote:
And so begins the new game system: Warhammer -40k. Taking place in the grim dark(yet surprisingly shiny and polished) world of 40,000 years before Sci Fi became a thing.

Sigmarines abound.

Anyone want literally every piece of GW anything I own? Will let it all go for a very reasonable price!

Yes please. What do you have?

Okay... Definately not what i expected.
I Kind of like the models. They look quite plasticy though.

Will the hammers be called "bolters"

I think the models look nice, if a bit chunky. A total rebranding was coming, we all knew that. A high fantasy setting is too generic for GW's rabid IP protection kick. Also, I have to believe that the Sigmarines aren't replacing anything. They're in addition to the former Empire line, sorta like allies. Some Fantasy tropes will remain for the time being, but as time goes on and the new setting develops, the elves and dwarfs and anything not wholly "original" will get total makeovers, too.

I feel for the WFB players, tho. It's how I feel about the mess 40K has become. Unfortunately, loyalty isn't rewarded by GW these days. Open your wallet or GTFO is GW's sole mantra.

 Formosa wrote:
Will the hammers be called "bolters"

that's trolling lvl 1000

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

xowainx wrote:
I can make out 47 models, dice and, most importantly, range rulers.

See? Can't have a proper starter set without whippy sticks.

Not a fan of the Sigmarines. Muscle armour pretty much always looks dumb, in my opinion.

Also, one thing I keep thinking is: "They killed off Malus Darkblade for this?!"

Oh I'm so glad I didn't read that book

FINALLY PICTURES!!!!! Thanks for that folks.

Looking at these new models I have to say that it looks like there is a scale creep going on there, the models look 32mm++ assuming the bases are 32mm, maybe its just an optical illusion or the fact that these are special super human things?

Another thing that I noticed is that the painted blue shoulder pads bits look like inverted Space marine shoulder pads, the feet are HUGE and that the new iconic spam is not the skulls anymore but Hammers instead. MC hammer time!

SO, the bases are now rounded which sucks.

Model design I do not know were to begin with, the proportions look off on most of them, like there is no attention to realism and all is distorted beyond the already distorted WFB models, I mean those marauders look like they have muscles in all the wrong places but I will no expand to much on that because the pictures are blurry.
The overall look now is even less medieval and more fantasy, there was an immense change to the WFB traditional designs. WFB has always been cartoony but this is a few extra steps and leaps into fantasy lands.

Does it look like 40k? Its hard not to in those bases and in loose formations and its even harder when the new faction has so many futuristic features, like those strange mechanical wings?

All in all I do retain from these pictures a shift in the miniature design, bases and formations... Do they appeal to me? I need to see more. Specially O&G.

 Da Boss wrote:
Is it me or are there no ranged weapons in the set at all?

Perhaps the glare reflecting from all the shinny washboard armor abs and pecs counts as a template weapon?

It's a bloodbath in the rumor tracker

The main thing that strikes me about the chaos picture is from the text:

"The warriors of the God-King, unleashed upon shafts of magical lightning, have arrived in the Mortal Realms, striking the first blow in a war of vengeance."

What does "unleashed upon shafts of magical lightning" mean? Are they attacking the lightning? Is the magical lightning anathema to proper, God-King fearing lightning? Are they instead riding the lightning? Like, literally on the lightning?

Yea, sure, GW's fluff has always been fairly over the top, but that sentence doesn't even make sense.

oh god, what a joke those are. I feel sorry for fans of the old fantasy factions and their aesthetics. Empire has now turned into pauldron wearing, bolter hammer wielding, Space Marine knockoffs. Might as well call them astartes knights and be done with it.

Reading the blurbs of text this looks to be a "prequel" to the Age of Sigmar.

This is an army of a god (Sigmar) fighting the army of another god(Khorne) in order to open the gates for the "lesser races".

It sounds like all the old models are still there and available for use in Age of Sigmar. Likely the Sigmarines are an elite faction that can ally the "good guys".

I am in for a starter set and if my assumptions are correct and the rules are fun I will be playing the Age of Sigmar.

More rumours for the rumour God Pretre.

Is that some form of gribbly to the right as we look at it of (what I assume is) the Chaos Lord? Looks interesting.

If this set is sub £85 I am in.

Looks like Tim the Thief and Steve the Warboss from Natfka are fully debunked at this point. Maybe he'll start actually sorting out his sources this time. Nah.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 Da Boss wrote:
Is it me or are there no ranged weapons in the set at all?

Just wait till we get the rules.

The Sigmarines will probably be firing bolts of lightning out their hammers.

Oh god you joke but that's probably in the rules you know... And I bet those bolts of lightning have the exact same ranged weapon profile as a boltgun ;-) And those sigmarines probably save on a 3+ as well...

 primalexile wrote:
Reading the blurbs of text this looks to be a "prequel" to the Age of Sigmar.

This is an army of a god (Sigmar) fighting the army of another god(Khorne) in order to open the gates for the "lesser races".

It sounds like all the old models are still there and available for use in Age of Sigmar. Likely the Sigmarines are an elite faction that can ally the "good guys".

I am in for a starter set and if my assumptions are correct and the rules are fun I will be playing the Age of Sigmar.

This seems bang on. Those models are clearly not the new Empire models.

 pretre wrote:
Looks like Tim the Thief and Steve the Warboss from Natfka are fully debunked at this point. Maybe he'll start actually sorting out his sources this time. Nah.

what sources? they just need to stop guessing to get hits on their page........

The worst part is this is only the first half of FantasyRumor-mageddon. Once we get the rules, people like Vela are going to go down in flames (huge rumor posts with all the specific rules they said changed).

We can't even revert to the dakka default setting of blaming Mat Ward for this!

The Sigmar faction looks good, I can use my Kings of War Basileans as proxies, they already have angels and paladins and a lion rider.

Truly a rumor gak show

Il grab the popcorn

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
We can't even revert to the dakka default setting of blaming Mat Ward for this!

Sure you can, didn't he "mentor" the current design team?

I really liked the more realistic armour empire rang around with.


I'm sure 40k players will love converting these guys.

I am definitely not liking the Sigmarines. They are amazing miniatures, but they don't fit the Warhammer aesthethic that I like so much. I hope that normal Empire-like humans will still be around somewhere in the Age of Sigmar.
The Chaos miniatures are awesome and I am probably going to pick some up for my 40k Chaos armies.