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I quite like the High Elf fish like scale plate on the Sigmarite Warrior, along with the hammers (Dwarfs) and battle lizard? (Lizardmen) maybe they are supermen that are able to ally with the other "good" armies? Or I may just be plucking at straws.

 zedmeister wrote:

 Bottle wrote:


Sounds really bad. I change my mind about buying the AoS boxset almost every day. The thing as well is how fast the stuff is released I know the fullbook will be out before I have even finished my first 10 Sigmarines. Should I just wait for that instead and spend the left over money on some smaller kits?

At least the leeks leaks are coming through thick and fast now!

If I were you - wait. See how the first set of releases pan out and get a few demo games under your belt. Nothing worse than investing a ton in a new system if it's naff to play and/or they start going in a direction you dislike. By the time a month or two has passed, there should be a bunch of stuff, that impulse you have to spend spend spend will have faded and you'll probably be a bit less emotional when planning your purchases.

Sounds wise. I do have an opening in my painting schedule however with my first 10 Skitarii almost finished. I was hoping to jump right in on the AoS stuff, plus I've never preordered from GW before. I was hoping to take part in all the hype and fun. I'll give it a few more days and wait for more from SadPanda before I make up my mind.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 Vermis wrote:


It's not difficult. I'm not criticising the minis, or the new game (well, not yet), or people who like them; but there have been some snide remarks and criticisms of people who don't like them or think it's all too 40Kish, and want something else - as if it's somehow wrong-headed or not allowed. That's just not getting a free pass.

Yup, I don't dislike the Sigmarines; it's just they have no place in my WHFB.

Thing is, they may turn out to be great. Remember the whole kerfuffle when Tau were released and how they were resented by some 40k players due to not being covered in skulls? But we is just irrational haterz, right?

Is it OK to still think Tau, regardless of the merits of any particular model considered in isolation, don't fit right with 40K if you've held that view consistently since the beginning? Indeed, held it for so long now that the irrational hate has twisted you into a creature of eternal spite, with nothing to sustain you bar the bile in your veins and the black, ossified lump of once-flesh that is your heart?

Edit: will repost when I find the original source.

So I've been on a meh trip with Wargaming but these models have given me a new phase of enjoying it. Also if anything those angels wings will make great bits

 Vermis wrote:

Flashman wrote:Yeah, Bottle got an exalt from me there.

A triumph for fanboys everywhere.

No great offence meant Vermis, but your mass quoting style and detailed responses can be slightly epic at times.

Plus I've decided I like Bottle's unabashed enthusiasm. His P&M blogs are cool too.

With these new leaks, I can say it for sure.

They look awful. Rip in pepperonis WHFB.

Not sure if real:

Is that metallic gold spray? Interesting.

 Captain Vyper wrote:
... Tom Kirby told us that the tactical squad of space marines accounted for MORE in sale then the ENTIRE range of Fantasy combined!

It would have been awesome if you had posted this 107 pages earlier, so that I could have quoted it, ad nauseum, whenever someone talked about how it was financially wreckless and suicidal for GW to reboot Fantasy as AOS.

ShaneTB wrote:
Not sure if real:

White lids on top? That's been a while.

Can't read the names on the pots

 adamsouza wrote:

 Captain Vyper wrote:
... Tom Kirby told us that the tactical squad of space marines accounted for MORE in sale then the ENTIRE range of Fantasy combined!

It would have been awesome if you had posted this 107 pages earlier, so that I could have quoted it, ad nauseum, whenever someone talked about how it was financially wreckless and suicidal for GW to reboot Fantasy as AOS.

I'm trying to think if these new SigMarines make WHFB more interesting in my mind.. I guess they do. Considering that Space Marines are the easily identifiable thing for 40k, I think it's a good trick from GW to try to find some similar unique poster boys for the fantasy range.

Anyone else think the "Warhammer Age of Sigmar" logo is very dated? Looks like something from the 90s.

 SJM wrote:
Anyone else think the "Warhammer Age of Sigmar" logo is very dated? Looks like something from the 90s.

I love it! Retro is back in

ShaneTB wrote:
Not sure if real:

So I guess some/all of the golden guys are called Retributors.

 SJM wrote:
Anyone else think the "Warhammer Age of Sigmar" logo is very dated? Looks like something from the 90s.

GW has been on a nostalgia binge for quite some time now, such as with the most recent incarnation of Chaos Daemons which harken back to the classic sculpts, the Space Hulk (and sorta Man o' War) remake and the revival of some old and obscure units (Ironstriders, Lord of Battle, Castellan Robots etc.), the new Devastators have the classic bulky trim on their grieves, Harlequins got the Neuro-Disruptor, an extremely obscure gun from Rogue Trader, Jokaero etc...

Not to mention the remake of the dark angel head dress on the sprue so you could remake the classic captain, the Crimson fist limited character for the anniversary model and equating the dwarves all over again.

 SJM wrote:
Anyone else think the "Warhammer Age of Sigmar" logo is very dated? Looks like something from the 90s.

I like it alot, always liked retro stuff. It seems to fit very well with the look of the models too which always helps.

I like the retro looking logo.

I also likethe idea of a super simplified ruleset I can try out with the kids.

When the new big giant rulebook eventually drops, I wonder if it will continue to expand on the smaller scale skirmish, or just completely ignore it and focus entirely on large scale stuff.

nudibranch wrote:

 SJM wrote:
Anyone else think the "Warhammer Age of Sigmar" logo is very dated? Looks like something from the 90s.

GW has been on a nostalgia binge for quite some time now, such as with the most recent incarnation of Chaos Daemons which harken back to the classic sculpts, the Space Hulk (and sorta Man o' War) remake and the revival of some old and incredibly obscure units (Ironstriders, Lord of Battle etc.)

Well if they make it a Chaos warband/slaves to darkness game but only actually user friendly... I maybe back in!

 Bottle wrote:

 SJM wrote:
Anyone else think the "Warhammer Age of Sigmar" logo is very dated? Looks like something from the 90s.

I love it! Retro is back in

GW never left.

The more I see Chaos Marauders the more I think of these:

Where can I buy those?

MacMuckles wrote:
Where can I buy those?

Here: http://red-box-games.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13&products_id=227

The others will be available in the next couple of months (or earlier). https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1103158358/barbarian-hordes-by-red-box-games/posts/1274963?ref=dash

And a scale comparison pic

Honestly, even if Darnok's rumor comes to pass, I still intend to use the chaos 'marauders' as Forsaken and the 'Warriors' as Chosen. Both are touched hard by chaos (Khorne is a perv!), and would have expanded in size a bit. Makes perfect [GW] sense, and enables me to have my cake and eat it. And I'm saying this as someone who has spent the last two years pissed at GW!

 SJM wrote:
Anyone else think the "Warhammer Age of Sigmar" logo is very dated? Looks like something from the 90s.

I was thinking that it was looking retro... which is I guess a nice way of saying dated.

 silent25 wrote:
Some more news via Darnok over at warseer. Probably skipping the box based on this.

Originally Posted by Some Birdy

Concerning models:

humans much larger in scale than standard WHFB humans
not just more bulky and differently proportioned, but I mean the models themselves stand taller, they're just a different scale as WHFB humans (each about the size of a Terminator)
about the model compatibility, and they just went like "yeah well if someone really wants to use their old armies they can, but we didn't intend the new models and old models to be compatible, we think larger models are the way forward, blah blah"

Concerning rules:

it's really for small battles and not as deep and strategic like LOTR was
very simplified, seems intended for short quick beer & pretzel games, lots of random and little strategy
no way you can use it for existing warhammer armies, so with the scale difference and incompatible rules I don't think there's any point in rebasing your existing collection
'post it note' size of the rulebook is pretty much accurate
very much revolves around your commander, which has elaborate special rules
rest of the squads feels much as filler for the commanders to smash up and feel good about
no info yet about anything planned for really large-scale battles

Additionally:

This box set is not the full deal though. There will be a "big rulebook" coming shortly afterwards. That one should cover larger battles, I have yet to hear anything definite on it though (unless I missed something ).

This is honestly what I was most concerned about. Good to see that a mini-game option for those who are less tabletop hardcore/well-funded, but I hope they support it rather than make it a one-off like Dreadfleet, etc. Otherwise the mini-game will just exist to sell models for this "massive scale game"- thereby completely ignoring the biggest problem of WHFB: that it costs an astronomical amount of money to play.

Scaling up the models is another concern- now obviously the Sigmarines will be bigger than regular humans since they're supposed to be demi-god warriors, whatever, but I wonder if this new larger scale is something they want to apply across the board? I simply see no reason for that other than they want to raise the cost of the kits. I guess it's not different than the points dilution that's been going on in both WHFB and 40k for years- you get less and less "bang for your buck" to play what is essentially the same game over the years. And I tend to trust Darnok more than most, he was the one of the couple people who broke the rumors of Sigmarines back at the beginning of the year, so it's a worrisome rumor.

Well, the way the reputable rumors are shaking out, I feel I'm going to keep a very keen eye on everything, but hold off until the future is in clear sight and GW's attempts at impulse-buying are subdued. I have really lost almost all of my interest in 40k, so WHFB might be a game that I can finally get into. But it's GW who has been making 40k unbearable, so what they're going to do with its older-and-wiser brother...well, time will tell...


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 Dullspork wrote:

 SJM wrote:
Anyone else think the "Warhammer Age of Sigmar" logo is very dated? Looks like something from the 90s.

I was thinking that it was looking retro... which is I guess a nice way of saying dated.

It's riding out the hard years of "dated" towards the glory years of "vintage".

migooo wrote:
You know I'm really not liking what I'm hearing at all.

Whenever I think of God Kings I think of Babylon but instead of that lets go for nipple armour.

So the Chaos guys are going to be small? That's stupid.

You know I had a " slime knight " army that I used as a counts as dwarf army, now it doesn't feel as crazy as this now....


Game over man game over.

i'm not seeing a single nipple on any of the Sigmarite armor...
i see pectorals with no nipples...
since the nipples seemed to be the biggest gripe about the Sanguinary Guard sculpts, it looks like GW actually heard their customers, and sculpted pectoral armor without nipples, but there is still this refrain of "nipple armor" running through the last 15 pages...
seems like GW can't win no matter what they do...

personally, the pectoral armor looks good to me, bringing forth a Greek and Roman vibe...
it may not be Babylonian (which looks awesome on the FW Chaos Dwarf stuff!!!), but it is classical, which is cool with me...

cheers
jah

migooo wrote:
Can't read the names on the pots

My guess is Flesh Wash, Armour Wash and Bleached Bone (for the skulls on the bases).

The circle is complete!