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 pretre wrote:

 PLC wrote:
petre,

Can I get a "true" for the box contents/

plc

Umm. Sure, where's the link to where you posted before the release with the box contents?

Pg 113 of this thread

 The Shadow wrote:
Good news about not having to rebase.

Can anyone give me a summary of the Death/Destruction/Order/Chaos thing? I can't quite make it out... Are they the four army factions?

Four core factions. You can still deploy whatever you want.

And then Sigmar imprisoned great dragon under the soil of red moon...

Is it duardin? I thought it was dwarden.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
It's like a train wreck

But one made from two circus trains colliding.

A collosal, terrible, flaming, buring, hysterical train wreck with burning clowns running around spaying it with seltzer bottles while ring masters cry out how everything is fine and we should all come in while the dancing elephants lurch around leaving trails of blood behind them.

How could I look away?

fantasic mental image there

I keep coming back to the thread and thinking that something will turn up that will bring all this together into a cool balanced game....

 Sidstyler wrote:
Is it duardin? I thought it was dwarden.

Bumping back since it was at the end of the page:

 Accolade wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Can someone put up a list of new names vs old

my eyes are bleeding too heavily.

What I can derive so far...

Dwarves- Duardin
Elves- Aelfs
- Dark Elves- Red Slayers? Dark Aelfs? Not anywhere near positive on this one (thanks Eldarain!)
Lizardmen- Seraphon
Beastmen- Brayherd
Skaven- Still Skaven!
Vampire Counts- Still Vampires (probably)
Orcs- Orruks
Grots- Still Grots!
Ogres- Ogors
Humans- well, maybe they'll be called "Kirbians"?

I see "duardin" on the WD page.

That new "creation myth" read like a sixteen year old handing me the idea for his first novel at a writing convention.
Sigmar and sigmarite?
Is that like Gundam and Gundanium alloy?

Hes the God, he can name his metal any name he damn well pleases.

So all very imaginative and mythological and High Fantasy.

But Dwarves and Elves now appear ready to be good old pals.

And assume anything with a pointy Ear is an Elf, so all flavors work together.

And ultimately the discord caused by the muddy, nitty gritty existing armies just looks and feels "off" in the face of Star Realms and Heavenly Cities on a Hill...

Think this really put the last nail in the coffin for me.
Will stick with the wonderful, joyful variety and detail and DIRT and GRIME of the "World before Time" that was the WoW.

Old!

AND LO! was the world torn asunder and the forces of good and evil scattered across the cosmos. But power begets power and new realms emerged, fantastical realms of untold wonder.
The Ancient One watched, as ever, until one fateful day he arose, cast aside his raiments and declared:
"Nope. This is dumb."

 unmercifulconker wrote:
So when the world collapsed, only its core remained which Sigmar clung to and was aided by the great drake whoever that is and where they have been hiding.

Sigmar is able to forge his palace on Azyr, the core basically acting as a sun/moon?

The emperor.. I mean Sigmar sets on a crusade to find all his sons...I mean realms and briefly united them until gods be gods, its good old fashioned punch in the face time.

Quite like the setup at the moment, like how the old world still exists in some way, I'll see where the story goes.

Well, the God-Emperor does have a seat on a golden throne:

GW sure has put the "crazytrain" into full gear with all these new names. It's as if they seriously believe that their drop in sales is NOT because of A) Terrible rules B) Lack of customer focus C) High prices but D) COPYRIGHT

Who the hell is stealing GWs copyright? and what could they possibly do to GW that GW isn't already doing to themselves?? It's insane that the chapterhouse lawsuit diverted GW from improving their games and instead has them focusing on stupid name changes for a copyright no one is even abusing?

(3rd party models for models GW doesnt make.. creates more players for their games anyway)

Oh, and lest I forget:


All HAIL Sigmar!

pzzzzt!

This reminds me of Dwarven Forge's Stefano Pokorny who named the material for his new Dwaven forge tiles Dwarvanite as a joke.

 Accolade wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Can someone put up a list of new names vs old

my eyes are bleeding too heavily.

What I can derive so far...

Dwarves- Duardin
Dark Elves- Red Slayers? (not anywhere near positive on this one)
Lizardmen- Seraphon
Beastmen- Brayherd
Skaven- Still Skaven!
Vampire Counts- Deathmages?
Orcs- Orruks
Grots- Still Grots!
Ogres- Ogors

I'm assuming Elves will be renamed, just don't see them mentioned. Humans, well, maybe they'll be called "Kirbians"?

Welp. This is not for me.

Ogors? Did some work experience pupil misspell this or something?

On something of a tangent. If these names are correct can GW trademark these when likenesses (models) have only months previously been named something else?

Is there a trademark for Age of Sigmar? Probably start with proving that first.

Chopxsticks wrote:
This reminds me of Dwarven Forge's Stefano Pokorny who named the material for his new Dwaven forge tiles Dwarvanite as a joke.

Well, the difference is that joke was intentional so we'd all laugh with him.

GW didn't mean for it to be a joke and we are laughing AT them.

@Accolade.
Elves= Aelfs
Also it seems Gork and Mork have merged to become Gorkamorka.

Was the battlescroll for the cultist guys ever leaked? Given the "you can use as many models as will fit on the board" as well as the advantage to the outnumbered player thing the difference between strong and spammy dudes would be a very interesting thing to know

I don't care, as long as they Saurusicons can have an Indominus Fex.

Obviously Ogor is a hate crime, but does that say Aelf in the Order blurb??

 Eldarain wrote:
@Accolade.
Elves= Aelfs
Also it seems Gork and Mork have merged to become Gorkamorka.

Oh, good catch Eldarain! I've added it to the list!

Adding that extra "a"...oh GW, you are soo clever

I wanted... I really wanted to give it a chance. I'm not as long in the hobby as some other people here, but I invested a lot of imagination, time, passion and of course money into it.

Considering the fact that I played Warhammer Fantasy less than 40k, although I liked it more, is the reason why I feel ashamed right now, for all that is good I even refused to use Forgeworld stuff in 40k because Fantasy didn't get the same amount of love.

So you see, I wanted it to suceed, to carry on the legacy of an World I loved.

But after the newest leaks, I can't do it anymore. It has Warhammer in its name, but nothing of its soul.

Me and my roomate downloaded the Regiments of renown rules, and try to get our hands on every rules containing book there is.

We will keep playing 8th, It might not been a great end, but it is Warhammer.

The funny thing is that Aelf is still a generic term for Elf...

Renaming everything simply for trademark purposes is pretty damn stupid when in the process you destroyed a game system and world that had serious brand recognition.

Somehow I doubt that there would be a Total War: Warhammer if they had to use Age of Sigmar, Seraphons and Orruks. Trademarks don't mean jack when your product is a joke.

 agnosto wrote:
The funny thing is that Aelf is still a generic term for Elf...

And I bet the intern that came up with Aelf didn't know that.

 Kirasu wrote:
Renaming everything simply for trademark purposes is pretty damn stupid when in the process you destroyed a game system and world that had serious brand recognition.

Somehow I doubt that there would be a Total War: Warhammer if they had to use Age of Sigmar, Seraphons and Orruks. Trademarks don't mean jack when your product is a joke.

They've become a parody of themselves.

I blame that Mantic guy, James; he is obviously a mole sent by Mantic to help GW along towards their demise.

Goblins got the name from their 40k counterparts it seems.

Yeah I'm not seeing any positives in this new setting.

Is it clearly written as Aelf somewhere? The Order blurb is blurry enough that it might be Aeelf or Aefl or Aell or Aetl or sigh.....

The renaming (which I'm taking to be true but I don't recall seeing the actual confirmation) is beyond dumb. Miniatures are very visual. People don't care if it's called an Orc, an Ork, a Green Skin, a Marauder, an Orox, an Uruk Hai or whatever else.. If it looks like it's usable, it's usable.. Protecting a name is just a petty jab back at 3rd party that will do nothing to help them.