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Sorry for the shameless plug, but here is an extensive review of the Age of Sigmar starter set, including a closer look at the book and the lore, as well as large high quality pictures of the sprues, and what we think about Age of Sigmar: http://taleofpainters.blogspot.de/20...r-starter.html

We've actually been provided with a review sample by Games Workshop, completely unexpected and unrequested. Quite a shocker indeed There must be much at stake for GW with this release indeed.

Also, no point costs or army selection guidelines are real. Models aren't push fit but require glue. Anything else?

Have they put up the rules somewhere, or just the warscrolls?

Lot's of loverly shouting for the greenskins (or whatever they are called now)

eg

Waaa gh! Drummer
Models in this unit may be Waaagh!
Drummers. You can add 2 to the charge
rolls of a unit that includes any Waaagh!
Drummers, but only if you bellow
‘Waaagh!’ when rolling the dice.

Some really good stuff in there.

Standards and musicians have rules that are army specific.

For example, a TK standard resurrects D6 skeletons, a skaven standard lets them retreat and charge in the same turn, lizzies penalize enemy Battleshock tests.

Well Morathi is still there.. so I'm happy.

 Thunderfrog wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Yeah there now seem to be lots of rules that 'require' you to shout something in some kind of tone.

Taking Settra gives you a command ability that tells you to hold out your hand and in a commanding (sorry, supremely commanding) tone say "War".


EDIT: ninja'd... twice!

All for ignoring these 'requirements' say "Aye"

EDIT2: Also kinda sad that the Heirotitan is gone. Dammit GW you only came up with that unit last book!
EDIT3: And goodbye every TK special character except Settra and Khalida... may you rest in eternal slumber.

Apophas is still around.

Ah yes, I'd forgotten he existed .

I guess any missing characters are the ones melted down to make the sigmarites

Ancient Dignity: Dragons are ancient and prideful creatures, and the Elves that
ride them are no less haughty, but from such nobility and dignity stems an inner
strength. If, during your entire hero phase, you can maintain a dignified (even
arrogant) composure and not smile, smirk or laugh regardless of your opponent’s
antics, you may re-roll all hit rolls of 1 made for models in a Dragon Host until
your next hero phase.

Wow, mikhaila's post really turned my opinion on this release from fairly negative to a lot more positive. However, it's now gone to the point of tragic, as the nearly confirmed news of there being no points feels like finding the perfect house, only to realize it has no bathrooms. It just isn't going to work

Shouting gets you special rules.

Really?

REALLY?

What are they smoking in Lenton these days.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Did anyone else notice where the Hellcannon is listed?

WOC PDF between the Warshrine and the Spawn.

One Bat Short of a Belfry: Konrad is a
violent lunatic, and his temper does little
to help his stretched sanity. If, during
your hero phase, you talk to Konrad von
Carstein, you can re-roll all hit rolls of
1 for him until your next hero phase. If
Konrad von Carstein talks back to you,
re‑roll all failed hit rolls instead.

Come on, like you can't just ignore the shouting crap if you don't like it? It's hardly a big deal. I don't expect to see tournaments enforcing it (or playing Age of Sigmar in the first place).

Anyone that that will be a problem for is going to have a bigger problem with the lack of points costs, etc. A little levity, god.

 Tamereth wrote:
Shouting gets you special rules.

Really?

REALLY?

What are they smoking in Lenton these days.

I think they're really just trying to make the point "this is all just a fun, jokey experience guys, like playing imaginary cop vs. robber when you were a child." The problem then comes at how much money people are willing to fork out for something that really isn't a "game" by the definition of the word, more like a miniature-aided rpg. I feel that amount will be much lower than the previous game.

 pretre wrote:
One Bat Short of a Belfry: Konrad is a
violent lunatic, and his temper does little
to help his stretched sanity. If, during
your hero phase, you talk to Konrad von
Carstein, you can re-roll all hit rolls of
1 for him until your next hero phase. If
Konrad von Carstein talks back to you,
re‑roll all failed hit rolls instead.

This game is going to be the marmite of the gaming community. I thus far like its yeasty goodness.

GW saw how much fun Ork players having in 40K (and Orcs in Fantasy? Dunno no one I know played O&G) yelling Waagh! and made it a requirement for everyone

While fun... my god, auto-losing if I kneel when I take Settra... that's harsh.


That rule for Kondrad... I have to admit that whole thing about him talking back is funny. I take back what I said before... I'm now saying a resounding "Nay!" (this is for my "ignore the requirement to shout silly things" thing from earlier)

I was reading the entries for my counts force and I am finding it quite disappointing. Just feels a bit too simplified for my taste, its like you dont even have to look at the rules, oh yeah just roll, its always 3s or 4s to hit and wound anyway.

Then I thought you guys were making joke posts, you actually shout stuff now? I dont even wanna know what you have to do for Slannesh rules.

Are there any that require shouting? I haven't seen them yet.

edit: Just got to Orruks. Nevermind.

Lizard scrolls look ok to me at first glance. I like how slaans can summon skinks all over the place, and you can have units of salamanders without those pesky handlers. With the bonuses you get for big units I'm also thinking it might be handy to still keep em ranked and on trays the old fashioned way, at least till you have to pile in

 pretre wrote:
One Bat Short of a Belfry: Konrad is a
violent lunatic, and his temper does little
to help his stretched sanity. If, during
your hero phase, you talk to Konrad von
Carstein, you can re-roll all hit rolls of
1 for him until your next hero phase. If
Konrad von Carstein talks back to you,
re‑roll all failed hit rolls instead.

I officially won't hear another negative word about warscroll day.

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:

 pretre wrote:
One Bat Short of a Belfry: Konrad is a
violent lunatic, and his temper does little
to help his stretched sanity. If, during
your hero phase, you talk to Konrad von
Carstein, you can re-roll all hit rolls of
1 for him until your next hero phase. If
Konrad von Carstein talks back to you,
re‑roll all failed hit rolls instead.

This game is going to be the marmite of the gaming community. I thus far like its yeasty goodness.

Same. This is completely amazing.

For the Skaven Screaming Bell,

roll 2 dice (roll cannot be modified).... but

13 Improbable Victory!: Against
all probability and reason, you
immediately win the battle (and
are hereafter branded a cheat –
not that that should bother a true
skaven general).

(so all Skaven players need to pick up a couple of dice with a 7 on them...)

Oh sweet Sigmar, I think I'm in love with these rules! Bonuses for yelling, for bribing, for talking to your minis! This is just brilliant!

Of course, it might make balancing even trickier for the bunch of us trying that down in the Proposed Rules forum, but who cares?

Some of these special rules remind me of that incredibly awkward, and epic fail, of an advertising campaign where McDonalds was letting random people get their food for free if they hugged someone or something like that...

I get it GW. We're not supposed to care about points. We're not supposed to play in tournaments. We're supposed to forge a narrative with random die rolls. We're supposed to yell "WAAAGGGHH!" when we have a unit charge. That's all fine and dandy. When it's not forced... I have friends I game with where yelling WAAAAGGGHHHH is what we do. I don't expect my game to require it, however, because I also have friends where that's not how we roll.

Valete,

JohnS

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:

 pretre wrote:
One Bat Short of a Belfry: Konrad is a
violent lunatic, and his temper does little
to help his stretched sanity. If, during
your hero phase, you talk to Konrad von
Carstein, you can re-roll all hit rolls of
1 for him until your next hero phase. If
Konrad von Carstein talks back to you,
re‑roll all failed hit rolls instead.

This game is going to be the marmite of the gaming community. I thus far like its yeasty goodness.

Thats several kinds of awesomeness

 Bull0 wrote:

 pretre wrote:
One Bat Short of a Belfry: Konrad is a
violent lunatic, and his temper does little
to help his stretched sanity. If, during
your hero phase, you talk to Konrad von
Carstein, you can re-roll all hit rolls of
1 for him until your next hero phase. If
Konrad von Carstein talks back to you,
re‑roll all failed hit rolls instead.

I officially won't hear another negative word about warscroll day.

Also, if Konrad does talk back to you...well....we'll just cross that bridge when we come to it.

100% the best rule in AoS. Top this:

Pride of the reiksguard: Helborg’s
skill is as legendary as his moustache is magnificent. You can re-roll any failed hit rolls when attacking with the Runefang
so long as you have a bigger and more impressive moustache than your opponent.

Wow. I'm actually a bit surprised so many people find the idea of a game system that requires you to behave like a five year old appealing.

Note that Chaos Marauders etc are still a thing in the lists, so the AOS Warscrolls are basically unique units?

Hooded Villain: A Great Moonclan’s Warboss is a mean-spirited villain whose
beady red eyes stare malevolently from beneath his hood before he launches his
attack. You can re-roll any hit dice when this Warboss attacks, but only if you are
either wearing a hood or you can beat your opponent in a staring contest before
rolling the dice (first one to blink or look away loses).


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 unmercifulconker wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:

 pretre wrote:
One Bat Short of a Belfry: Konrad is a
violent lunatic, and his temper does little
to help his stretched sanity. If, during
your hero phase, you talk to Konrad von
Carstein, you can re-roll all hit rolls of
1 for him until your next hero phase. If
Konrad von Carstein talks back to you,
re‑roll all failed hit rolls instead.

I officially won't hear another negative word about warscroll day.

Also, if Konrad does talk back to you...well....we'll just cross that bridge when we come to it.

Totally getting a small recording device for him.