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2015/07/04 13:50:17
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
"When you set up this model, you can declare that it is dedicated to Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh or Tzeentch. If you do, the Daemon Prince replaces its Cursed Soul‑eater ability with the relevant ability from the following list...
1. Implies that you don't have to.
2. Contravenes current fluff about there being no unaligned Daemon Princes (besides Belakor).
So I'm calm, collected, friendly and generally a great opponent. Then Wulfrik gets within 3" of an enemy and I suddenly scream "Eat gak and die witch flaps!", and, because my opponent is obviously taken aback, I get re-rolls?
No... no... no...
It's actually a very clever mechanic to stop mixing factions, as the Elf battalion requires you to maintain an air of dignity. Consider them essentially "Come the Apocalypse" level allies without having to bother with the matrix.
The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
2015/07/04 13:51:34
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Yeah don't worry H.B.M.C., my post wasn't aimed at you. As Thraxas said, in an earlier post someone had a bit of a rant about the new rules in which they said everyone who enjoys them are either 5 year olds or have some mental problem.
And wow that Wulfik rule... Say "War" commandingly, talking to Kondrad or not laughing or smiling in a hero phase is all fine and silly, but outright insulting your opponent on purpose?
Not really a good thing to encourage GeeDubs... I'd say that rule is going to be ignored fast.
2015/07/04 13:52:40
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Alex C wrote: I hate to think what "special rules" GW might make for Slaaneshi models.
Peen-comparison challenge?
No need to guess. Example
: It is wise not to gaze long upon the splendour of a Lord of Slaanesh, lest terrible notions begin to form. If an enemy unit finishes its pile in move within 3" of a Lord of Slaanesh, you can tell your opponent that they are in danger of being beguiled.
From that point on, if your opponent looks you in the eye before the unit has made its hit rolls for that combat phase, subtract 1 from any of those rolls which target this model.
Supreme Vanity: Sigvald is narcissism personified, unable to go more than a few moments without seeking a mirrored surface. You can re-roll failed save rolls for Sigvald if you can see your reflection or are holding a mirror when you roll the dice. However, if the result of any of these re-rolls is 1, Sigvald becomes entranced by his own perfection, and cannot pile in or make attacks for the rest of the phase.
The Endless Dance: If you are dancing while rolling the dice for the Masque’s attacks in the combat phase, you can reroll any failed hit rolls. If, at any point, you can coerce your opponent to join in, you can re-roll any failed wound rolls as well.
2015/07/04 13:54:01
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
I noticed there are no silly the rules for the box contents.
I'll take a bet there won't be any for new models down the line either, that lot is just a troll of the existing users, which given they have paid the wages for thirty years is just downright poor business.
In fact, from what Ive seen the new stuff is too big to really fit in with the old stuff anyway, even the chaos guys.
2015/07/04 13:56:25
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Alex C wrote: I hate to think what "special rules" GW might make for Slaaneshi models.
Peen-comparison challenge?
As if there isn't enough genital waving in wargaming already?
....and lo!.....The Age of Sigmar came to an end when Saint Veetock and his hamster legions smote the false Sigmar and destroyed the bubbleverse and lead the true believers back to the Old World.
2015/07/04 13:58:46
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Matt.Kingsley wrote: Yeah don't worry H.B.M.C., my post wasn't aimed at you. As Thraxas said, in an earlier post someone had a bit of a rant about the new rules in which they said everyone who enjoys them are either 5 year olds or have some mental problem.
And wow that Wulfik rule... Say "War" commandingly, talking to Kondrad or not laughing or smiling in a hero phase is all fine and silly, but outright insulting your opponent on purpose?
Not really a good thing to encourage GeeDubs... I'd say that rule is going to be ignored fast.
Just compare their parents to hamsters in a mocking french accent.
....and lo!.....The Age of Sigmar came to an end when Saint Veetock and his hamster legions smote the false Sigmar and destroyed the bubbleverse and lead the true believers back to the Old World.
2015/07/04 14:14:19
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
I think what people are having the most difficulty in swallowing about all the silliness is that WHFB at least wore the clothes of a serious wargame, AoS males no pretense that it's just a lark and seriousness and strategy be damned. I think GW has made a large error in not releasing a serious ruleset prior to the just for funsies because the larger population that at least wants something close to balanced and organized play will shake their head and walk away. It's almost as if they're having a roast of WHFB before it retires to the French Riviera and hooks up with a Brazilian barkeep in its dotage.
Farewell GW fantasy, we hardly knew ye.
On another note, this can't even really draw in the board game crowd sure to models that require assembly and painting. Just look at board game fora to see how popular that is with that particular crowd (hint, it's not). So who is AoS marketed towards? Since GW does no advertising except through its own incestuous channels, I have no clue because I honestly don't see the majority of current fantasy gamers liking it.
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2015/07/04 14:31:02
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
The box is a standalone game, it is possible to utilise the contents, only the contents, and never buy another thing.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
NoggintheNog wrote: I noticed there are no silly the rules for the box contents.
I'll take a bet there won't be any for new models down the line either, that lot is just a troll of the existing users, which given they have paid the wages for thirty years is just downright poor business.
In fact, from what Ive seen the new stuff is too big to really fit in with the old stuff anyway, even the chaos guys.
A thousand times this
Like I said earlier, they've burnt their bridges with me.
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agnosto wrote: I think what people are having the most difficulty in swallowing about all the silliness is that WHFB at least wore the clothes of a serious wargame, AoS males no pretense that it's just a lark and seriousness and strategy be damned. I think GW has made a large error in not releasing a serious ruleset prior to the just for funsies because the larger population that at least wants something close to balanced and organized play will shake their head and walk away. It's almost as if they're having a roast of WHFB before it retires to the French Riviera and hooks up with a Brazilian barkeep in its dotage.
Farewell GW fantasy, we hardly knew ye.
On another note, this can't even really draw in the board game crowd sure to models that require assembly and painting. Just look at board game fora to see how popular that is with that particular crowd (hint, it's not). So who is AoS marketed towards? Since GW does no advertising except through its own incestuous channels, I have no clue because I honestly don't see the majority of current fantasy gamers liking it.
I read some of those scrolls, and my initial reaction was to gouge out my eyes! I'm tempted to drive to GWHQ and shove a cactus up Tom Kirby's rear!!
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2015/07/04 14:35:40
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Torga_DW wrote: So you're not looking forwards to the Horus Heresy: Age of PewPew?
If GW pulls something like this with 40k (which they won't, since its to valuable for them to gut like this) I think it's realistic to expect either A) The FWHH team quits over what is the death of their dream project. B) they ignore it and continue to publish rules intended for 6th edition rule set (even their 7th ed HH books are geared more so towards the 6th edition rule set)
2015/07/04 14:36:33
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Matt.Kingsley wrote: Yeah don't worry H.B.M.C., my post wasn't aimed at you. As Thraxas said, in an earlier post someone had a bit of a rant about the new rules in which they said everyone who enjoys them are either 5 year olds or have some mental problem.
And wow that Wulfik rule... Say "War" commandingly, talking to Kondrad or not laughing or smiling in a hero phase is all fine and silly, but outright insulting your opponent on purpose?
Not really a good thing to encourage GeeDubs... I'd say that rule is going to be ignored fast.
Just compare their parents to hamsters in a mocking french accent.
I feel sorry for people like yourself who have to flog this dead horse. If I lived near your shop, I can guarantee you right now, you'd be getting a very large order for KOW stuff. Hell, the way I'm feeling right now, I'd pay double for KOW models.
"When you set up this model, you can declare that it is dedicated to Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh or Tzeentch. If you do, the Daemon Prince replaces its Cursed Soul‑eater ability with the relevant ability from the following list...
1. Implies that you don't have to.
2. Contravenes current fluff about there being no unaligned Daemon Princes (besides Belakor).
They really are making it up as they go along.
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2015/07/04 14:37:43
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
agnosto wrote: I think what people are having the most difficulty in swallowing about all the silliness is that WHFB at least wore the clothes of a serious wargame, AoS males no pretense that it's just a lark and seriousness and strategy be damned. I think GW has made a large error in not releasing a serious ruleset prior to the just for funsies because the larger population that at least wants something close to balanced and organized play will shake their head and walk away. It's almost as if they're having a roast of WHFB before it retires to the French Riviera and hooks up with a Brazilian barkeep in its dotage.
Farewell GW fantasy, we hardly knew ye.
On another note, this can't even really draw in the board game crowd sure to models that require assembly and painting. Just look at board game fora to see how popular that is with that particular crowd (hint, it's not). So who is AoS marketed towards? Since GW does no advertising except through its own incestuous channels, I have no clue because I honestly don't see the majority of current fantasy gamers liking it.
I read some of those scrolls, and my initial reaction was to gouge out my eyes! I'm tempted to drive to GWHQ and shove a cactus up Tom Kirby's rear!!
Just make sure to bring Wulfrik along and make a witty insult at the same time!
2015/07/04 14:39:09
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Azreal13 wrote: The box is a standalone game, it is possible to utilise the contents, only the contents, and never buy another thing.
That makes a lot of sense, then. I couldn't envision GW coming up with 9th edition rules like this.
There is no 9th. This is instead of 9th. It is a standalone game in the same way as DV is a standalone game.
It is instead of Fantasy, Fantasy as it was known is no more.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Most of the warscrolls seems fine. It's mainly just special characters that have the silly rules. I'm gonna be playing the sigmarite faction anyway, so I won't have to deal with dancing, etc.
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2015/07/04 14:48:37
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Contravenes current fluff about there being no unaligned Daemon Princes
Where does it state that - is it 8th Edition? Mind you the fluff changes from edition to edition and you should know that?
We used to have unaligned / Independent minor powers of Choas as well as at least one Major God, Gods of Laws - loads of stuff.
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Azazelx wrote: It depends on whether it's fun or not. Mikhala seemed to think the game itself was fun and the flaws were more with the lack of balancing. If the game is fun, then it's fun, after all.
On a slightly cynical note, Mikhala is financially invested in selling the game (unless he managed to get out those 80 copies of the game he pre-ordered). It would be very poor business sense to tell everyone it's crap, don't buy it, I'm not casting any aspersions on his character and I'm sure he did have fun...it's just obviously everyone in the world has different views on fun (some people even think Russell Brand is funny, go figure!).
Fair point in one sense, but then most of us aren't actually his customers and he's been more than happy to be cynical about both GW and the game itself. As for Brand. In small doses in specific things he's funny. Mostly he's ok veering into fething annoying.
Personally I loved the WFB world, I started collecting in 1985 and despite dabbling in 40K it has always been fantasy for me, at some point I have had between 3'000 and 12'000 points of every army GW has ever produced....
~(snip)~
Yes, I can afford to go and buy 10 Bloodthirsters, but I always preferred a balanced theme based army it's just more enjoyable for both players. I had put aside quite a lot of money to get a decent sized skirmish force for Wood elves, Bretonnians, Dark Elves and Warriors of Chaos, but I think I'm going to stick to Mierce's Darklands for my skirmish games...and I'll see what in my 5000point Forgeworld chaos dwarf army can be used in KoW2 when the book comes out shortly.
yes, yes, I also started many years ago and have way more miniatures than is in any way sensible. I guess the thing is I already stopped playing WHFB quite a few years ago because HeroHammer and moved onto KoW a couple of years ago using my existing models (and the Old World fluff). I'm happy to buy the boxed set for the models, completely ignore the Silly fluff of AoS and adapt/repurpose the rest while continuing to use The Old World (or my own twisted version of it) as the background for my mostly-but-in-no-way-exclusively GW armies and Kings of War for the ruleset. But if I give their free, silly rules a spin from time to time in the privacy of my own home there's no harm, no foul. If I were a current WHFB player, I'd just stick with 8th - in much the same that people have been playing "Oldhammer" 3rd edition in increasing numbers of late.
Post your CD model list in the Mantic section and I'm sure that at least a couple of us will help you work out some list options. The Mantic Not-Bull Centaurs are based off the old GW models, and so are a bit pissweak. I'd recommend using the Ogre Chariot stats instead (rules-wise you'd just consider them allied troops).
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got a good look at the Krazy Khorne Kastle in the trailer. I'm not going to be able to "resist" that one if it is in fact a kit. Looks like it might be a new warhammer fortress style jobby with towers and walls rather than the 40k-type big moulded ones?
Spoiler:
KKK. That's not good.
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2015/07/04 14:56:23
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
