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2015/07/05 14:18:29
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
AegisGrimm wrote: My problem is that with such a drastically different direction from the last 30 years of Warhammer, AoS almost looks like another company trying to copy the Warhammer IP, but with their own twist to make is just enough different, so they took some "planes" stuff from Magic the Gathering.
I totally liked the idea some of us wondered about when we only had the name of Age Of Sigmar to go by, where it's possibility was that it would be about a new edition of games set back in the far past of Warhammer when Sigmar first showed up, and the building of the Empire. A drastic change in regards to armies like Bretonnia, etc that would not exist yat, but still deeply a part of the Old World fluff.
Us long-term guys could feel like we were playing games to set the stage for the editions our younger selves would play. Play Nagash as one of the earlier times he showed up? Or as heroes fighting alongside Sigmar himself to pacify the great forest? It would be epic, like 40K Horus Heresy.
But then the baby went out with the bathwater.
I mentioned that idea about 200 pages ago
I would have loved the AOS to be the AOS, it would have been a great look.
Picture pre-Empire tribes in the style of Conan, Orcs that were more feral, dangerous tribes of beastmen, Nagash turning up with his undead, Dwarves trying to re-build their Empire, Skaven plotting as always, Chaos always there, etc etc
Some armies would have missed out, but you could have had a raw, feral look, and the re-boot can have showed us the evolution of Warhammer. For example, the Empire tribes get better weapons when the dwarves pass on their metal knowledge. GW could have milked that for years.
For me, GW's models (most of them ) and artwork have never been the problem. They've always been high quality. The idea of simple rules to get people in the game is not that big a deal for me, I get it.
Two things, two simple things that could have fixed this and made AOS a success
1) A points system. You want a 15 a warscrolls game? 10 Chaos warriors = 1 scroll, 20 clanrats = 1 scroll and so one. EASY! EASY! So EASY
Beginners could have played the scenarios while they learned the rules. Everyone's a winner. That GW didn't do this
2) Move trays GW. move trays. The skirmish game could have easily been war of the ring. People who wanted larger battles would have been happy. People who wanted smaller games would have been happy. You did it with war of the ring. Mantic wrote simple rules for big games. GW could have wrote simple rules as well. You didn't do this? WHY WHY?
With their living rulebook and promised regular updates, GW could have saved fantasy with simple steps.
Norsed wrote: You won't ever achieve a perfectly balanced game.
Drop the man made of straw. He's never done nuthin' to ya!
Or, to put it another way: We know. No one's asking for that.
Don't mention balance in these parts - it's a swear word to some people
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2015/07/05 14:20:55
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
I don't 'actually mind the lore of AoS. I just find it infuriating that they add all these nonsensical, obnoxious rules like "you have to have a beard to benefit from this rule" or "shout something at the top of your lungs to get a reroll".
Aside from making the game more suitable for loud, smelly neckbeards (who are by no means the majority of players), it basically requires me to dress in drag in order to best make use of my dwarves.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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2015/07/05 14:21:03
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
People can play weak units now, but play more of them.
What? was there some sort of restriction on weak units in your town? must have sucked for those gobbo players
Are goblins weak? I meant weak in relation to their points cost. Some units aren't good choices if they are too expensive compared to their battlefield ability. Now that doesn't matter.
Bottle wrote: People can give themselves handicaps if they know they usually beat that opponent. Yes, all this could have been done in 8th, but it is much easier now.
Huh? How is it much easier?
I cant think of anything easier than 'I will play with 200 less points' or 'you start the game with an extra 200 vps'
How is it so much easier in a game with no inherant balance to start with
If you played a pick up game of 8th and said "I want to play with 200 more points". The answer would have been "err no thanks".
Bye bye Dakkadakka, happy hobbying! I really enjoyed my time on here. Opinions were always my own :-)
2015/07/05 14:21:11
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Hey, I generally despise GW and the way they've acted since they became a corporate entity. But suddenly, everything I hated about the last few editions of warhammer has suddenly gone. It's like they've been listening to my dreams or something. They've even managed to put stuff in there I didn't even know I wanted. Of course, there are a few wrinkles - this is GW after all, they always manage to find something to cock up. But on the whole I like it. I'm still sticking to rogue trader for my 40k though. I'm posting in this thread 'cos it's the one that's up on my phone and I'm posting in between bits of work. Can't be bothered to trawl through everything else plus there are a lot of people on thus thread who annoy me, which is probably not the best reason to post but there we go.
But go ahead, proclaim me a plant. Means you don't have to bother acknowledging anything I say. It'll certainly make it easier for you.
You despise GW yet you only joined 4 days ago and have made over 60 posts, all in this thread, all defending gw...
No one needs to label you a plant, you made it obvious yourself!
Yeah, because frankly dakkadakka is a pretty horrible place. But I ended up reading this thread. And then someone got me annoyed. SOMEONE WAS WRONG ON THE INTERNET, a feeling I'm sure we've all had at some point. I'm not defending GW, I'm defending Age of Sigmar. I'm defending the fact that for the first time in ages I can actually go into a GW shop and feel like I'm not massively out of place. I hate everything 40k past first edition. I hate what they've done to white dwarf by turning into an advertising pamphlet with no actual substance. And I hate the fact they blew up the warhammer world, even though I'm kind of liking some of what they're doing with it afterwards.
So screw you and your plant gak.
That happens to me alot -_- if people could stop being so wrong I could stop checking 2 or 3 times a day lol.
On a side note I get people are upset but hell it is what it is no point in getting upset over it. There is a topic \/ down there somewhere trying to make a community 8.5 edition. Try working with them to fix 8th if you liked it because this is not leaving anytime soon.
Face it fantasy was good some places not so much in others it had alot of rules and alot of models ect. The new people to join the hobby and are trying to make it more fun and quick to start for the younger kids. Please don't say well i know this one kid who likes to read, because ya there are a few but come on go to walmart and see how many quick fixes there are out there for anything.
There is actually a tablet that has a already built in facebook icon for those to lazy to type those what 8 letters in the search bar? They need to attract younger people and the modern youth "on average" barly takes the time tomake eye contact let alone read a dictonary then a army book. Those days are gone right beside getting fire starter/carve kits for your 8 year old kids.
Now if only jewelry would die out so I do not lose 2 grand a day for a shiny rock
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2015/07/05 14:22:51
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
xaszatm wrote: I guess I'm the opposite. I look at the game and tried it and was just not having fun. It's a shame because I really like the new models but nothing in the game is actually interesting for me to play. It certainly doesn't help that every game I played and saw was reduced to all models bunched up at the middle with more coming from the sides creating this giant ball of violence. I'm happy for people who do enjoy this game but this definitely wasn't fun for me.
Oh, and before people say "you just need to try another game", I tried 3 and watched like 5. There's a limit here.
This!
Thank for your input, that was something I observed too and was thinking about it.
The battle reps that I have seen on youtube had exactly the same problem... all ends in a mass of miniatures in the middle of the table, no movement tactics and this does not scale well at all... more minis = bigger mosh pit... Horribly boring.
I will keep on looking at reviews hopefully the more experienced people get they will find some kind of variety on the final outcome.
Warmachines has anyone played with them?
Mikhaila wrote a post saying movement and tactics mattered a lot, and he had no mosh pits.
But he has also been house ruling stuff as well has he not? So that could make a difference.
.
We've been throwing out roughly equal forces on the table. Just sort of guessing and getting close. Like saying "bring 80 wounds worth of stuff". About the only real house rule we did was measure from the bases. Didn't really even decide, just both started doing it, realized that, and said "screw it, this is so much easier". And I didn't bother with the sudden death nonsense when i had the smaller army. Other than that, played it straight up. Less than two hours and fought about 10 rounds.
Edit: quotes got messed up this text above is a quote from Mikhalia
I know this was posted a few pages back, but felt the need to comment on this. I would say the bolded part is the biggest and most game altering house rule you have done, and has probably made the game more enjoyable. Not that its a bad thing, but the core game itself is never going to be like that in any "competitive setting". The biggest problem I have with this game is that if you want to be competitive or try to win the game your either going to want to use all the models you have available, and hope you can avoid the sudden death loss condition, another thing you've not been playing with, or your going to make your army so that you can just keep summoning new units over and over again.
Also something to be noted, is that thanks to the new measure from the model rules (assuming you aren't house ruling that) you can no longer use third party miniatures , thank to that huge modeling for advantage thing that people discuss all the time. I always liked the look of fantasy and have wanted to get into it for years, but now . . . well now I'm just sad.
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2015/07/05 14:23:05
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Hey, I generally despise GW and the way they've acted since they became a corporate entity. But suddenly, everything I hated about the last few editions of warhammer has suddenly gone. It's like they've been listening to my dreams or something. They've even managed to put stuff in there I didn't even know I wanted. Of course, there are a few wrinkles - this is GW after all, they always manage to find something to cock up. But on the whole I like it. I'm still sticking to rogue trader for my 40k though. I'm posting in this thread 'cos it's the one that's up on my phone and I'm posting in between bits of work. Can't be bothered to trawl through everything else plus there are a lot of people on thus thread who annoy me, which is probably not the best reason to post but there we go.
But go ahead, proclaim me a plant. Means you don't have to bother acknowledging anything I say. It'll certainly make it easier for you.
You despise GW yet you only joined 4 days ago and have made over 60 posts, all in this thread, all defending gw...
No one needs to label you a plant, you made it obvious yourself!
Yeah, because frankly dakkadakka is a pretty horrible place. But I ended up reading this thread. And then someone got me annoyed. SOMEONE WAS WRONG ON THE INTERNET, a feeling I'm sure we've all had at some point. I'm not defending GW, I'm defending Age of Sigmar. I'm defending the fact that for the first time in ages I can actually go into a GW shop and feel like I'm not massively out of place. I hate everything 40k past first edition. I hate what they've done to white dwarf by turning into an advertising pamphlet with no actual substance. And I hate the fact they blew up the warhammer world, even though I'm kind of liking some of what they're doing with it afterwards.
So screw you and your plant gak.
It a shame really, if you'd signed up on a day that it wasn't reported that people were signing up on other forums specifically to post in AoS threads in defence of AoS and were likely stooge accounts, people probably wouldn't have thought anything of it.
Just bad luck I guess, but hey...
frankly dakkadakka is a pretty horrible place
So screw you and your plant gak.
Brilliant way to predispose the community towards you!
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Just been looking at Wayland's site and the pre-orders for AOS are up, but there's no pictures.
What's the deal there?
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deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
2015/07/05 14:25:35
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Just been looking at Wayland's site and the pre-orders for AOS are up, but there's no pictures.
What's the deal there?
GW get arsey if third party sites use official images before release I think.
Not joking.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Melissia wrote: I don't 'actually mind the lore of AoS. I just find it infuriating that they add all these nonsensical, obnoxious rules like "you have to have a beard to benefit from this rule" or "shout something at the top of your lungs to get a reroll".
Aside from making the game more suitable for loud, smelly neckbeards (who are by no means the majority of players), it basically requires me to dress in drag in order to best make use of my dwarves.
Yeah, I agree they're stupid. But they really are a minor, easily ignored part of the game that turn up in only a few places. If you really don't like the rest of the game, then fair enough, nothings going to change that. But you really don't have to be a loud smelly neckbeard to do well in AoS.
2015/07/05 14:26:55
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Jaceevoke wrote: We've been throwing out roughly equal forces on the table. Just sort of guessing and getting close. Like saying "bring 80 wounds worth of stuff".
So how does this work with low-quality spam units, like goblins, skink, or skaven, compared to high-quality models like Bret Knights or WoCs?
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2015/07/05 14:29:57
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
xaszatm wrote: I guess I'm the opposite. I look at the game and tried it and was just not having fun. It's a shame because I really like the new models but nothing in the game is actually interesting for me to play. It certainly doesn't help that every game I played and saw was reduced to all models bunched up at the middle with more coming from the sides creating this giant ball of violence. I'm happy for people who do enjoy this game but this definitely wasn't fun for me.
Oh, and before people say "you just need to try another game", I tried 3 and watched like 5. There's a limit here.
This!
Thank for your input, that was something I observed too and was thinking about it.
The battle reps that I have seen on youtube had exactly the same problem... all ends in a mass of miniatures in the middle of the table, no movement tactics and this does not scale well at all... more minis = bigger mosh pit... Horribly boring.
I will keep on looking at reviews hopefully the more experienced people get they will find some kind of variety on the final outcome.
Warmachines has anyone played with them?
Mikhaila wrote a post saying movement and tactics mattered a lot, and he had no mosh pits.
But he has also been house ruling stuff as well has he not? So that could make a difference.
We've been throwing out roughly equal forces on the table. Just sort of guessing and getting close. Like saying "bring 80 wounds worth of stuff".So how does this work with low-quality spam units, like goblins, skink, or skaven, compared to high-quality models like Bret Knights or WoCs?
Well, it doesn't really. I guess people just rough-shot it and give the other person a couple extra models or something? There isn't much of a better way to do it.
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2015/07/05 14:31:23
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Brilliant way to predispose the community towards you!
Welcome to Dakka!
I'll admit that was a little bit out of order. A couple of people with no argument except to call me a plant got under my collar and I apologise.
But these boards do get pretty nasty.
So does any board that talks about a hobby with such a large financial and time investment as Wargaming. Emotions can run high, because people care so much.
2015/07/05 14:32:34
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
RoninXiC wrote: Youre wrong.
In 7th i played some deamons and we agreed that ill laways play 250 points down.
You see, we did this because the system wasnt balanced.
At me? Yeah no one cares if you give yourself a handicap. It's the other way round that caused problems.
Besides never said it wasn't possible in 8th or before, just that it's easier now as it is essential. The game is a collaborative effort to create fun, like inquisitor. With no points people can really look at the units themselves and decide how best to balance it themselves.
In my opinion of course.
Bye bye Dakkadakka, happy hobbying! I really enjoyed my time on here. Opinions were always my own :-)
2015/07/05 14:33:41
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Norsed wrote: But you really don't have to be a loud smelly neckbeard to do well in AoS.
... I literally have to have a beard to gain the full benefit of my Thane's combat abilities. If the person I battle against even has so much as a five o'clock shadow, RAW says I do not benefit from the Honour of the Clan rules. Even if it's true that many people are willing to ignore this kind of stupid, that still means I'm basically rolling the dice and hoping that I don't face off against TFG, where other people don't have to.
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2015/07/05 14:34:23
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
So how does this work with low-quality spam units, like goblins, skink, or skaven, compared to high-quality models like Bret Knights or WoCs?
Well to start Bret Knights and WoC's are 2 wounds instead of 1 so you get twice as many skaven/skink/goblins.
In general I think people are underestimating the combat phase. Just selecting the right order for your combats is going to be huge. It's something I noticed because of Wrath of Kings but combat is incredibly interesting now. Also baiting is going to be a huge part of this.
Honestly if it wasn't for a lack of army building mechanism this game would be very good (not perfect by any means).
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2015/07/05 14:36:50
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Just been looking at Wayland's site and the pre-orders for AOS are up, but there's no pictures.
What's the deal there?
GW get arsey if third party sites use official images before release I think.
Not joking.
Bloody hell. But the pictures are everywhere, anyway I mean...
This is weird
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2015/07/05 14:36:59
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Hulksmash wrote: Well to start Bret Knights and WoC's are 2 wounds instead of 1 so you get twice as many skaven/skink/goblins.
So a Bretonnian Grail Knight, iwth two wounds, is equal to two skaven slaves?
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2015/07/05 14:37:15
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Goblins have the same damage output as an equal wounds' worth of Chaos Warriors in some weapon configurations, just gotta be clever with list construction.
The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins.
2015/07/05 14:38:04
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Norsed wrote: But you really don't have to be a loud smelly neckbeard to do well in AoS.
... I literally have to have a beard to gain the full benefit of my Thane's combat abilities. If the person I battle against even has so much as a five o'clock shadow, RAW says I do not benefit from the Honour of the Clan rules. Even if it's true that many people are willing to ignore this kind of stupid, that still means I'm basically rolling the dice and hoping that I don't face off against TFG, where other people don't have to.
Simpely wait them out. I get a 4 oclock shadow after a couple hours. I can wait -_-
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Millions of people on welfare depend on me.
2015/07/05 14:38:43
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
xaszatm wrote: I guess I'm the opposite. I look at the game and tried it and was just not having fun. It's a shame because I really like the new models but nothing in the game is actually interesting for me to play. It certainly doesn't help that every game I played and saw was reduced to all models bunched up at the middle with more coming from the sides creating this giant ball of violence. I'm happy for people who do enjoy this game but this definitely wasn't fun for me.
Oh, and before people say "you just need to try another game", I tried 3 and watched like 5. There's a limit here.
This!
Thank for your input, that was something I observed too and was thinking about it.
The battle reps that I have seen on youtube had exactly the same problem... all ends in a mass of miniatures in the middle of the table, no movement tactics and this does not scale well at all... more minis = bigger mosh pit... Horribly boring.
I will keep on looking at reviews hopefully the more experienced people get they will find some kind of variety on the final outcome.
Warmachines has anyone played with them?
Mikhaila wrote a post saying movement and tactics mattered a lot, and he had no mosh pits.
But he has also been house ruling stuff as well has he not? So that could make a difference.
.
We've been throwing out roughly equal forces on the table. Just sort of guessing and getting close. Like saying "bring 80 wounds worth of stuff".
So how does this work with low-quality spam units, like goblins, skink, or skaven, compared to high-quality models like Bret Knights or WoCs?
You probably need to house-rule it by dividing elite troops from normal troops and then establish an allowed percentage for elites on those 80 wounds? I really dont know! Like only 50% can be elites and since elites have more wounds you would end up with a lot less powerfull minis... thing is there is no way to know how that would work.
Since I will only play this game with my son thats not a problem since I will have control on things but yes this is no good for a normal pick up game with a stranger, this will only be realistic for themed small warband skirmish with your friends.
Unless a group of fellas comes up with a good balance for this game.
Norsed wrote: But you really don't have to be a loud smelly neckbeard to do well in AoS.
... I literally have to have a beard to gain the full benefit of my Thane's combat abilities. If the person I battle against even has so much as a five o'clock shadow, RAW says I do not benefit from the Honour of the Clan rules. Even if it's true that many people are willing to ignore this kind of stupid, that still means I'm basically rolling the dice and hoping that I don't face off against TFG, where other people don't have to.
I don't really see that losing one minor advantage in a game without inherent balance is much of a problem. Yeah, if you had to pay points to get the thane and you weren't getting the full benefit I could really see it. But points aren't a thing anymore so... Anyone else that plays dwarfs and doesn't have a beard are in the same boat.
2015/07/05 14:39:49
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Norsed wrote: But you really don't have to be a loud smelly neckbeard to do well in AoS.
... I literally have to have a beard to gain the full benefit of my Thane's combat abilities. If the person I battle against even has so much as a five o'clock shadow, RAW says I do not benefit from the Honour of the Clan rules. Even if it's true that many people are willing to ignore this kind of stupid, that still means I'm basically rolling the dice and hoping that I don't face off against TFG, where other people don't have to.
Simpely wait them out. I get a 4 oclock shadow after a couple hours. I can wait -_-
... even if I did grow a beard (thankfully, I do not), I do not want to have to be the bearded lady for the sake of playing with plastic fething soldiers, thank you very much. If that's what this game requires, the game can go feth itself.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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2015/07/05 14:40:29
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Accolade wrote: People keep saying the silly rules are relegated to the legacy armies, but how can anyone prove that? The only new AOS armies to come out are the super-serious Sigmarines, blessed by their God-King Sigmar, and the bloody Khorne bloodsecrators (a joke of a name in and of itself), is there any evidence that the antics won't pop up in future armies? And if not, then why do it with the old armies?
Well at the moment it's only the legacy armies that have the joke rules, and we don't have any evidence one way or another whether they'll put them in anything in the future but the models in the starter box don't seem to have them. So it's perfectly legit to say so far it's only the legacy armies and there's no reason to believe they'll put them in the new ones, since the only new army we have doesn't have them.
Right, I get that. Personally, I'm not entirely sure what GW is planning to do (though it seems few are). There have been some rumors that they're trying to make AOS models incompatible with WHFB models- I wonder if that would come from upscaling all future releases, making WHFB look out of place and giving the Legacy armies the stupid rules so that they don't feel a part of the game overall. In that regard, it feels questionable whether it's worth even buying pre-AOS models...they seem to have a bad ROI at the moment.
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2015/07/05 14:40:33
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Norsed wrote: But you really don't have to be a loud smelly neckbeard to do well in AoS.
... I literally have to have a beard to gain the full benefit of my Thane's combat abilities. If the person I battle against even has so much as a five o'clock shadow, RAW says I do not benefit from the Honour of the Clan rules. Even if it's true that many people are willing to ignore this kind of stupid, that still means I'm basically rolling the dice and hoping that I don't face off against TFG, where other people don't have to.
I don't really see that losing one minor advantage in a game without inherent balance is much of a problem.
It IS a fething problem because it's misogynistic bs, thoughtlessly thrown in by jackasses who don't care about the game.
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2015/07/05 14:44:10
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Norsed wrote: But you really don't have to be a loud smelly neckbeard to do well in AoS.
... I literally have to have a beard to gain the full benefit of my Thane's combat abilities. If the person I battle against even has so much as a five o'clock shadow, RAW says I do not benefit from the Honour of the Clan rules. Even if it's true that many people are willing to ignore this kind of stupid, that still means I'm basically rolling the dice and hoping that I don't face off against TFG, where other people don't have to.
Simpely wait them out. I get a 4 oclock shadow after a couple hours. I can wait -_-
Uh dude, her name is MELISSIA I don't think 5 oclock shadows are going to happen.
Yeah, on point, hard not to notice how all these special rules assume it's a man playing and how Sigmar apparently only chose to reincarnate male heroes.
Sorry Sisters of Sigmar, guess you should have won more Morheim games.
Ah GW never changes...
2015/07/05 14:46:17
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
Norsed wrote: But you really don't have to be a loud smelly neckbeard to do well in AoS.
... I literally have to have a beard to gain the full benefit of my Thane's combat abilities. If the person I battle against even has so much as a five o'clock shadow, RAW says I do not benefit from the Honour of the Clan rules. Even if it's true that many people are willing to ignore this kind of stupid, that still means I'm basically rolling the dice and hoping that I don't face off against TFG, where other people don't have to.
Simpely wait them out. I get a 4 oclock shadow after a couple hours. I can wait -_-
Uh dude, her name is MELISSIA I don't think 5 oclock shadows are going to happen.
Yeah, on point, hard not to notice how all these special rules assume it's a man playing and how Sigmar apparently only chose to reincarnate male heroes.
Sorry Sisters of Sigmar, guess you should have won more Morheim games.
Ah GW never changes...
My point is more of if they be dic..jerks then be one back. Wait them out say I got no where to go after 10 minutes it will pass. Or hell ignore them and do it anyways. But in all honesty I thought she was a dude since you know "g.i.r.l. " guy in real life"
But you would have to play with the worlds bigest....jerk if they apply any of those "fun rules"
Sorry bad grammer day lol trying to sculpt watch my kids and type -_-
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2015/07/05 14:46:39
Subject: Age of Sigmar 4th July WD leak and new names pg 1
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