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Skullhammer wrote:
And dont forget no escape on the arks so the dk can still fry upto 6 warriors then cc the ark.

He could, at most, cook 6 if he rolled a 6, didn't roll a 1 to wound, and we failed all of our Reanimates. Under normal circumstances that wouldn't happen, and therefor he's not doing much to the guys inside.

He'll probably kill one, then pop the transport easily. What are they going to do? 10 guys rapid fire, 20 shots,14 hits, 2.3 wounds -> about 1/3 of a wound.

The wriaths can tarpit them, wraiths can do most things, people can prioritise your wraiths, unless you're bringing 18, focus fire will cripple their tarpit potential, considering if they get to a DK, it'll kill one each round


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DK's are still one of the most concerning things for our army, that's my point. Any 12" move, T6+ 2+save melee specialist unit, is a problem for us. Thankfully it's a short list.

harkequin wrote:
He'll probably kill one, then pop the transport easily. What are they going to do? 10 guys rapid fire, 20 shots,14 hits, 2.3 wounds -> about 1/3 of a wound.

The wriaths can tarpit them, wraiths can do most things, people can prioritise your wraiths, unless you're bringing 18, focus fire will cripple their tarpit potential, considering if they get to a DK, it'll kill one each round


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DK's are still one of the most concerning things for our army, that's my point. Any 12" move, T6+ 2+save melee specialist unit, is a problem for us. Thankfully it's a short list.

Well, what do you typically bring in your lists?

Recently i've been running 18 wraiths, so i guess the point is a bit moot

I used to run Decrion, 2 Garks, 10 immortals, orikan star 3tombblades. and played one dropsquads . (+ a culexus)

I found problems with the fact, that things with 12 moves, had an easier time picking targets against me than i them. Bear in mind it could handle most things, but grav cents, neutered ghost arks easily, making the 3DKs a huge problem for me.

If i had run a 6 man wraith squad , i could still only tarpit one 225pt knight with 250 pts, of wraiths.

Again, i should mention, I could go toe to toe with 90% of lists, but against friends practicing for tourneys it was a different story. DKs are straight up a bad time for casual necrons, that arent packing a full up, Dcult/ Judicator, (cos half of either is no fun )

My current list wouldnt have too much of an issue with the 3DK draigostar list, mainly because it runs 18 wraiths

It's great now that Invisibility exists, because it's the only thing Necrons struggle with even in the slightest. The day it is removed should be the day Necrons receive a nerf.

If someone denies that Reclamation Legion and Canoptek Harvest aren't both immensely powerful and require nothing but fielding them to be so, they are either a Necron player or highly ignorant.

harkequin wrote:
Recently i've been running 18 wraiths, so i guess the point is a bit moot

I used to run Decrion, 2 Garks, 10 immortals, orikan star 3tombblades. and played one dropsquads . (+ a culexus)

I found problems with the fact, that things with 12 moves, had an easier time picking targets against me than i them. Bear in mind it could handle most things, but grav cents, neutered ghost arks easily, making the 3DKs a huge problem for me.

If i had run a 6 man wraith squad , i could still only tarpit one 225pt knight with 250 pts, of wraiths.

Again, i should mention, I could go toe to toe with 90% of lists, but against friends practicing for tourneys it was a different story. DKs are straight up a bad time for casual necrons, that arent packing a full up, Dcult/ Judicator, (cos half of either is no fun )

My current list wouldnt have too much of an issue with the 3DK draigostar list, mainly because it runs 18 wraiths

Well, you're also apparently fighting someone with 3 Dreadknights and Grav Cents, which breaks the fun of the game anyway. I always refer to casual, not top-tier competitive level games.


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 RunicFIN wrote:
It's great now that Invisibility exists, because it's the only thing Necrons struggle with even in the slightest. The day it is removed should be the day Necrons receive a nerf.

If someone denies that Reclamation Legion and Canoptek Harvest aren't both immensely powerful and require nothing but fielding them to be so, they are either a Necron player or highly ignorant.

I won't say it's not powerful, but it won't win you games on it's own.

Well, you're also apparently fighting someone with 3 Dreadknights and Grav Cents, which breaks the fun of the game anyway. I always refer to casual, not top-tier competitive level games.

Well yeah, but it was agreed beforehand that it was tourney practice, so no surprises there. Still perfectly enjoyable, challenging games can be fun.

To be fair, this thread is about the strength of decurion. I think my point illustrates that, although decurion is strong, if everyone is bringing their A-lists, it's really not OP. It's just in a casual setting very easily to accidentally build a top tier list using the decurion. Both from unit choices, and from everliving.