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As nice looking as it is, huge gun emplacements, like a lot of the huge models, look completely out of place on the average 6x4 gaming table.

Or maybe that is just me.

Interesting, looks like GW is continuing the trend of including "Apocalypse" weapons in normal 40k. The plasma gun has a 7" blast but isn't a LoW or massive fortification. So I wonder which way tournaments are going to go with this: will it be banned because it has an "Apocalypse" weapon, or will it be allowed while LoW continue to be banned for having similar weapons?

Also, I see GW kept the idiotic cover rules for the pipes, where a unit halfway across the table can take wounds from the pipes if the pipe happens to give them a cover save. And somehow the spray of flame from a broken pipe can home in on the unit taking to cover save and magically avoid doing any damage to units in between.

Prices...

"Battlefield infrastructure has never been so dangerous"

Games Workshop, or Alan Partridge?

 Henry wrote:
I remember when plasma was an ancient technology, the few remaining weapons being treasured. Now every monkey and his skull plastered tower has one.

Plasma being rare mean they can give one to every 10 th Guardsman, as opposed to every Guardsman. That's the way its always been.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Henry wrote:
I remember when plasma was an ancient technology, the few remaining weapons being treasured. Now every monkey and his skull plastered tower has one.

Plasma being rare mean they can give one to every 10 th Guardsman, as opposed to every Guardsman. That's the way its always been.

I was about to say- they are rare if you consider the IoM spans a million or so planets in our galaxy.

Must admit that I cringed when I read the riles for random allocation on those things..

Mother of god

Chuck Vindi into that thing and watch all the things die :/

Those are nice terrain pieces. Would pick up some of those pipes.

That Plasma installation looks like a Titan's Plasma pistol conversion just waiting to happen!

I may have missed it, but do these terrain kits have a release date?

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
I may have missed it, but do these terrain kits have a release date?

Being in a WD, probably within this month

I think they're going up for preorder Friday with the Onagar Dunecrawler for Ad-Mech.

Good stuff. It is too bad WD doesn't post the release dates next to the prices.

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Good stuff. It is too bad WD doesn't post the release dates next to the prices.

They don't really have to, since this is the page they are usually on:

Whats the rule for 'primary weapon'?

It's exactly the same thing as Ordnance, but does not affect the rest of the weapons you're firing.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Good stuff. It is too bad WD doesn't post the release dates next to the prices.

They don't really have to, since this is the page they are usually on:

Yup, there it is. LOL, missed that image.

 Peregrine wrote:
Interesting, looks like GW is continuing the trend of including "Apocalypse" weapons in normal 40k. The plasma gun has a 7" blast but isn't a LoW or massive fortification. So I wonder which way tournaments are going to go with this: will it be banned because it has an "Apocalypse" weapon, or will it be allowed while LoW continue to be banned for having similar weapons?

One could argue that because it isn't a strength 'D' weapon it's more acceptable. 7" blast is also something that the Death Strike Launcher have, even though that's like the only example I can honestly think of.

 Zewrath wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
Interesting, looks like GW is continuing the trend of including "Apocalypse" weapons in normal 40k. The plasma gun has a 7" blast but isn't a LoW or massive fortification. So I wonder which way tournaments are going to go with this: will it be banned because it has an "Apocalypse" weapon, or will it be allowed while LoW continue to be banned for having similar weapons?

One could argue that because it isn't a strength 'D' weapon it's more acceptable. 7" blast is also something that the Death Strike Launcher have, even though that's like the only example I can honestly think of.

While true i think its just more the same offensive Ramping that is making the game less enjoyable to play (getting alpha striked suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks) (by alpha strike i mean placeing models on the table and then removing them not even a turn in and not getting to use them at all kinda thing.

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
It's exactly the same thing as Ordnance, but does not affect the rest of the weapons you're firing.

And you can roll 3d6 for armourbane discount the lowest but I personally can't think of any armorbane Primary weapons.

Man that Plasma Obliterator really didn't deliver in looks... Kinda sad about that. Was hoping for something with more cooling pipes, a different nose, and a not-so-church-like base.. Ah well!

The pipes look great, and for any terrain builder, probably a godsend in detail. Put all the terrain pieces together from GW and you can really have a flavorful and interesting map.

The plasma thing looks neat, but not worth $83. The pipes are a waste of $$. For $37 I could go to Home Depot and get enough pvc to cover the table spend 10 minutes going through the bitz box and boom. Home Depot is really an under developed gaming resource, more gamers should just spend a few minutes walking around there

couldn't you just uses these oldies but googies?

New Imperial terrain kits: Because NO ONE demanded it!

Because if anything in WH40k need more hardcounters, it was most definitely TEQ.

You would think that, for that many points, and being a structure purpose built to house and fire the thing, that the plasma weapon wouldn't have the Gets Hot! rule. The Stormblade's gun doesn't have it, and it's even more powerful.

Always what I wanted to have, a 200+pt fortification with a big gun that will, invariably, fail to fire the first time I use it.

I normally really like GW terrain, but the plasma obliterator just looks... dumb. And there are better (to say nothing of cheaper!) looking pipes terrain on the market.

Swing and a miss for me. I hope the new rumored Fantasy terrain coming is more well thought out.

 Peregrine wrote:
Interesting, looks like GW is continuing the trend of including "Apocalypse" weapons in normal 40k. The plasma gun has a 7" blast but isn't a LoW or massive fortification. So I wonder which way tournaments are going to go with this: will it be banned because it has an "Apocalypse" weapon, or will it be allowed while LoW continue to be banned for having similar weapons?

Also, I see GW kept the idiotic cover rules for the pipes, where a unit halfway across the table can take wounds from the pipes if the pipe happens to give them a cover save. And somehow the spray of flame from a broken pipe can home in on the unit taking to cover save and magically avoid doing any damage to units in between.

a str 7 ap2 single shot weapon with a 7in blast has never been an apoc only unit. We have had a bigger blast and 7in templates have been in the game since 3rd edition, hello death strike missle. This isn't even a massive fortification or av 15 building. This is not an apoc only weapon and I doubt any tournament will worry about it since it's horribly overpriced. Personally if I had to chose this building and an executioner leman Russ tank. I'd take the tank it's cheaper mobile and has a bigger plasma blast foot print.

Personally I really like the look and customization of the promethium pipes and the fact it provides great low lying cover. It should also fit well into the void shield building they are rereleasing in plastic (not polystone) soon.

 Zewrath wrote:

*swoon*

That shot is from White Dwarf?

Can the Plasma Obliterator be taken as part of any of the fortification networks? There's mention of Stronghold Assault, but that's it.