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I don't know about anyone else, but I'd buy a box of Hunters as an add on, if I could.

I think making the basic troops an add on would be nice too.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Hunters look like the kind of anime robots that are very threatening in Act 1 but blow up like fireworks by Act 3. This pleases me. Hopefully the scarecrows will look a bit more menacing in non-silhouette form.

The silhouette for the angel looks pretty boss, too. I hope it's as monstrous in the plastic.

Add another squad of drones and of Karist troops/angel adults for maximum yield.

Pretty much what Bob said. "Act 1" hunter robots to go with the "Chapter 1" Epirian Contractors . . . which is just how I like them, too. And it sounds like you guys are interested in doing the elite Corporation mercs sometime down the long road later anyway, so it seems like you're thinking along those lines, too. The Hunters do come with weapon options, right?

Hurrah for 2x Shadow Walkers / Robot controllers (I'm guessing it's two to a sprue, like the Tempest elites, but cool anyway.)

It's the Angel profile that really has my attention, though. If the model looks anywhere near as cool as that black outline, I'm sold. I was honestly expecting something a lot more blobby, closer to the ground, with a few tentacles lashing out of its gelatin. This spidery, raised-by-it's-own-tendrils silhouette blows my idea out of the water.

All this and an audiobook too. An audiobook! Bless you. Love them. Wish more companies would do them.

And should your totals skyrocket and you wonder how to add value in the future, I'd just follow Bob's advice.

P.S. You're not going to "pull a Mantic" and advertise flying models with transparent flying bases, then ship them with crummy opaque ones, right? Damn, but I hate that.

My first reaction to ME was that the Karlists looked kinda cool and that the Epirians looked kinda bland......now I'm looking more at the Epirians as useful miniatures to add to my collection and wondering what I would do with the Karlists apart from ME.

 Vermonter wrote:

The Hunters do come with weapon options, right?

3 different guns on the right arm, 2 guns and a hand on the left arm, 2 rocket pod variants (cluster and rocket)

 Vermonter wrote:

Hurrah for 2x Shadow Walkers / Robot controllers (I'm guessing it's two to a sprue, like the Tempest elites, but cool anyway.)

They are one per sprue as they have lots of extra options - the handler makes a normal handler or an HQ handler with different torso, antenna, heads, etc.

 Vermonter wrote:

It's the Angel profile that really has my attention, though. If the model looks anywhere near as cool as that black outline, I'm sold. I was honestly expecting something a lot more blobby, closer to the ground, with a few tentacles lashing out of its gelatin. This spidery, raised-by-it's-own-tendrils silhouette blows my idea out of the water.

The angel was our most difficult model to get right, but it looks great and I cant wait to show it off. You would not believe it is made with plastic until you have it in your hands.

 Vermonter wrote:

All this and an audiobook too. An audiobook! Bless you. Love them. Wish more companies would do them.

We did it so we can saturate our lives with Maelstrom's Edge and force our families to listen to the stories in the car

 Vermonter wrote:
You're not going to "pull a Mantic" and advertise flying models with transparent flying bases, then ship them with crummy opaque ones, right? Damn, but I hate that.

They will only be transparent. I personally cant stand opaque flight rods, but those who like that can paint them.

Love the Hunter model.

Any chance we can see the sprue for it?

Thanks for the replies, legoburner. And that's great news about the Shadow walkers / Robot controllers. 1 per sprue, lots of options, 2 per $90 pledge. Very nice.

Just wanted to add that I love the new stretch goals, because they're things that I'm not that invested in. If that sounds counter-intuitive, let me put it this way: If you're going to structure stretch goals around things like dice, suppression markers, and bases, it means that you're quite serious about putting unrevealed models in the base pledge from the get-go. If I read this correctly, there aren't going to be any more new model stretch goals - when you say the Karist Angel is included in the $90 pledge, you mean it, it isn't conditional.

Which of course means that the $90 deal is actually a hell of a deal right now, as opposed to possibly becoming that in the eleventh hour of the campaign. If we never add in a few more dice or suppression counters, I'll live. If the adult Angel never made it in to the base pledge, honestly, I'd pull out, but it sounds like retreat is no longer an option for me.

You guys are indeed being quite serious and gutsy with your initial launch. I respect that.

Well, that was good timing. I was thinking of dropping, but I think this will keep me on.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Love the Hunter model.

Any chance we can see the sprue for it?

It takes three sprues to build a hunter. We'll have pictures in an update later this week.

Thanks for the kind words everyone! Vermonter, the large angel and all the rest is now forever fixed as part of the boxed set, and that will remain the case. No stress about what you'll get in the boxed set now!

Love the Hunter. I would gladly buy several more. If it were bigger, I'd probably try and build a cockpit into one.

Hoping we'll see that hooded Karist officer eventually.

 legoburner wrote:
Vermonter, the large angel and all the rest is now forever fixed as part of the boxed set, and that will remain the case. No stress about what you'll get in the boxed set now!

So were these going to be....dare I ask it....

FAKE STRECH GOALS?!?!

The hunter looks nice. I'm curious to see if it'll be an add on later on in the campaign.

Lego, when you post pics of the sprues (or even the models again), can you pose either the sprue or the hunter next to ruler and/or some of the other Epirian models to gauge the size? It's hard to tell given that you said the cover art had the larger models made even larger for dramatic visual effect.

 warboss wrote:
The hunter looks nice. I'm curious to see if it'll be an add on later on in the campaign.

Lego, when you post pics of the sprues (or even the models again), can you pose either the sprue or the hunter next to ruler and/or some of the other Epirian models to gauge the size? It's hard to tell given that you said the cover art had the larger models made even larger for dramatic visual effect.

There is a pic with other models in the latest KS update:



Just to be 100% clear, this is *not* a model comparable to a dreadnought-size in 40k. Its more of Tau Crisis Suit sized.

 warboss wrote:
The hunter looks nice. I'm curious to see if it'll be an add on later on in the campaign.

Lego, when you post pics of the sprues (or even the models again), can you pose either the sprue or the hunter next to ruler and/or some of the other Epirian models to gauge the size? It's hard to tell given that you said the cover art had the larger models made even larger for dramatic visual effect.

They've said 48mm

(although that said a picture against something known wouldn't hurt)

This tau player approves of the crisis suit size. Thanks for the update. I was going off of what was posted in the thread and didn't see that pic. Also, it appears my other question (for now) was also answered.

One side effect of adding all these additional models is that we have to simplify our packing process, which means that other than the terrain (which is handled at a separate facility), we will not be able to offer other add-ons for the moment. We intend to keep exploring this over the course of the kickstarter to try and find a way to make it work though!

Just to copy over a few other pictures from the KS update:-

You sneaky bastards put that hunter model on a little hill .

Seriously though, nice looking model. I'm not a terribly huge fan of most of the ME art/models, but that hunter is pretty dern cool!

 legoburner wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Love the Hunter model.

Any chance we can see the sprue for it?

It takes three sprues to build a hunter. We'll have pictures in an update later this week.

Thanks for the kind words everyone! Vermonter, the large angel and all the rest is now forever fixed as part of the boxed set, and that will remain the case. No stress about what you'll get in the boxed set now!

So what is the MSRP on this boxed set now after adding all this stuff?

Damn and there I was thinking the original $90 pledge/starter box contents were a pretty good deal but now it's a real bargain.

Love the Hunters can't want to get my grubby mitts on those.

weeble1000 wrote:
You sneaky bastards put that hunter model on a little hill .

Seriously though, nice looking model. I'm not a terribly huge fan of most of the ME art/models, but that hunter is pretty dern cool!

That was done on purpose, because as he doesn't have a base currently, when you stand him next to the infantry, it looks shorter than it actually is…so putting him up on a little hill actually gives a better sense of the size of the model really.

Well, I'm definitely going to have to base the Hunter. It looks way too top heavy looking to be practical as a stand alone, maybe depending on how you pose it.

And now I'm tempted.

Would still be painting the "scientologists" as Pink skinned aliens but really tempted.

Was very gutted that I did t win the free books from beasts of war, guess I'll have to pick them up when there's a real book release.

The hunters are fantastic. Great move on upping thie base pledge contents. You are laying the groundwork well for becoming a big player in the market.

Again, those hunters are absolutely fantastic. You may consider changing the native Dakka banner to include pics of them, should get some more people to give the project another look.

I personally hope at least one of the stretch goals is to add in some more of the infantry sprues.

I'm in!

What size bases are spiders, hunters, scarecrows and adult angels 'supposed' to be on - you know, when bases get made/released/etc. for them?

 Gallahad wrote:
The hunters are fantastic. Great move on upping thie base pledge contents. You are laying the groundwork well for becoming a big player in the market.

Again, those hunters are absolutely fantastic. You may consider changing the native Dakka banner to include pics of them, should get some more people to give the project another look.

That's a good idea there -

The Hunter is a full drone, right? There isn't some life form crammed into that tiny chest cavity, right?

 Cyporiean wrote:
The Hunter is a full drone, right? There isn't some life form crammed into that tiny chest cavity, right?

Description says robot so i assume its automated.

In the story, they require a bot handler.

Cyporiean wrote:The Hunter is a full drone, right? There isn't some life form crammed into that tiny chest cavity, right?

Yep, full bot. Its just designed originally to be a warmech, whereas the other drones were originally made by the Foundation to perform non-military functions and then later converted to military service. The Hunter is the first true bot we've shown that the Foundation designed specifically for war.

BobtheInquisitor wrote:In the story, they require a bot handler.

None of the bots require a bot handler to function. They all have rudimentary processing abilities that allows them to function on their own (think of ED-209 without the homicidal bugs). Its just a bot handler allows them to perform at a higher level of capabilities.

 yakface wrote:

weeble1000 wrote:
You sneaky bastards put that hunter model on a little hill .

Seriously though, nice looking model. I'm not a terribly huge fan of most of the ME art/models, but that hunter is pretty dern cool!

That was done on purpose, because as he doesn't have a base currently, when you stand him next to the infantry, it looks shorter than it actually is…so putting him up on a little hill actually gives a better sense of the size of the model really.

Will he be on a base for game purposes? If so what size?