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Seems like less of a feeding frenzy for veterans and more a new player lure really - particularly if it's really a complete game and not a starter box. GW have desperately needed something like this in the range for a long time. All for nought if it's another limited edition release, of course, and we all know how wedded GW are to limited edition.

I know it says new multipart plastic models, but I think they will wind up being the same sculpts just done in plastic. After all they would be NEW in plastic and come in more than one part, and that seems to be the laziest way/GW could release stuff. Plus I'm sure the reason for the old chaos marines being used is " we have a bunch of these models laying around gathering dust, what do we do with them. They've been sitting so long the boxes are too bad to ship like this, and we can't discount them because that's not our way."

I am considerably less excited about this from the most recent news. I will be keeping an eye on this of course, but at the moment it feels like a cheap vehicle to get people to buy all four assassins (plus some throw-away Chaos), and that doesn't sound all that exciting.

Hm, sad to see that the Chaos stuff is old models only, most of which I've got enough of. As I already have one each of the old Assassin models (and even the Rogue Trader one, yay!) I'm really only interested in the paper and cardboard components... so let's hope some early adopters put those on eBay.

Finally a game from GW that caters to more than two players and then it's utterly uninteresting on the model side of things... ah well.

A GW board game? I'm expecting rules full of random, again.

Honestly, it will sell. Models can be used for W40k and plastic assassins will be the main reason for many imperial players.

No more "Dreadfleet" experience, I can see. A pity, but it was to be expected.

Codex: Assasins will set you back another £900 don't forget, so you get rules for the 4 models. Unless they include 40K rules in the boxed game, which would be TOO SENSIBLE.

Going to wait to buy a boardgame until I know how it plays.

If it gets sold out before I can read an online review, then oh well.

I'm more interested in this than I was in Space Hulk, since I like Assassins a lot more than Space Marines.

But I want to see the price and the gameplay.

Besides, Specter Ops: Shadow of Babel is coming out this year. I think that will scratch my stealth itch anyway.

In the words of David Mitchell, "Oh, and that's a bad miss!"

Still, money now saved to spend on AdMech or Malifaux. Seeing as I already have all those CSM models or close enough equivalents, and the presumably similar SH tiles, if the gameplay gets rave reviews I'll just kitbash some Assassin models, figure out the rules from leaks and reports, and do it that way.

It might be a deal if you feel the Assassins are worth the inevitable £15+ price, but I'd never pay that for a single mini so the value isn't there for me.

Yup, they half-arsed it, so I'll pass. I have zero need for a bunch of the existing fugly CSM sculpts, and I still have cultists coming out of my ears from Dark Vengeance. Completely wasted opportunity.

To be honest, the lack of new Chaos models isn't surprising; the recent 40k campaign boxes have shown that they can get people to buy old stock if a couple of nice new plastic figures are thrown in. Why would they not keep doing that if people purchase?

I know that a board game and a campaign box for 40k are different to hobbyists; but to the suits/accountants at GW I think they see those as evidence of the above.

"I have so much of X, so this is a complete waste and a horrible squandering of an opportunity for things I imagined they would put in!"

I'll get it, depending on the price.
The lure of a descent-like 40k game is strong.
While I couldn't care less about the chaos miniatures, new assassin sculpts which I can use on the tabletop is a fine reason to get the game.
So a hopefully good board game with interesting miniatures I want.
It really hinges on the pricepoint, though. 80€ for 4 clampack miniatures I'd want anyway plus some cash for the rest of it.
If they go cray cray with the pricing - it's GW after all - they can shove it. Otherwise it's a "sold" sign on a box right there.

 Bull0 wrote:
Seems like less of a feeding frenzy for veterans and more a new player lure really - particularly if it's really a complete game and not a starter box. GW have desperately needed something like this in the range for a long time. All for nought if it's another limited edition release, of course, and we all know how wedded GW are to limited edition.

Amen.

Everyone looking to fill existing armies for cheap isn't who GW are targeting this towards, this is a Space Crusade styled recruiting tool, given how long it's been since such things have existed to bring in new blood, I welcome it. Remember, new blood will initially go to GW and spend, then expand their interest to multiple other companies, this, if it's distributed and sold in sufficient numbers, will be a good thing for both The HHHobby and the hobby.

Given the rise in popularity of tile board games (ala Imperial Assault, Shadows of Brimstone, etc), and given that Space Hulk was a decent enough success, I wouldn't be surprised at a tile game. I'd be pretty excited for it, actually, even though I don't really play 40k anymore and don't use assassins even when I do.

100 EUR before discount - being sold at Indys is confirmed

Hopefully the 'lAck of new content will mean a decent numbr of the print run will actually making it into the hands of potential new players

instead of the sets being mainly cannibalised for bits, especially as the assassins are going to be released as stand alone minis later

The current rumor is that the game will be available for some months, so I think the print run must be fairly large--or they are planning on staggering the stock out to last.

If this is going to be a steady, non-limited board game, then does that make this a return to 'specialist games'? I hope so.

Commence dreaming of new Necromunda, a Rogue Trader themed game and GorkaMorka 2

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Codex: Assasins will set you back another £900 don't forget, so you get rules for the 4 models. Unless they include 40K rules in the boxed game, which would be TOO SENSIBLE.

The assassins rules for 40k are going to be in next week's WD

 sockwithaticket wrote:
To be honest, the lack of new Chaos models isn't surprising; the recent 40k campaign boxes have shown that they can get people to buy old stock if a couple of nice new plastic figures are thrown in. Why would they not keep doing that if people purchase?

I know that a board game and a campaign box for 40k are different to hobbyists; but to the suits/accountants at GW I think they see those as evidence of the above.

Well for one thing the campaign boxes gave both forces multipart kits this box does not so many people would expect them to at least try. The chaos side apart from the lord are the awful snapfits. Its hardly worthwhile.

Busy Bee Atia on B&C has probably found out the game's name



If the rules are decent this can be a good intro game to 40k indeed. A Metal-Gear-Solid-like gameplay allows for tense games without the need of many miniatures. Also the nature of an Assassin's mission - going in AND out unseen - allows for a totally different and more interesting gameplay than 40k does. I hope it is at least as fun as Space Crusade. Which we still enjoy playing ocassionally after all these years

 Davylove21 wrote:
If this is going to be a steady, non-limited board game, then does that make this a return to 'specialist games'? I hope so.

Commence dreaming of new Necromunda, a Rogue Trader themed game and GorkaMorka 2

I unfortunately doubt it. This game seems to function as a jumping-off point for 40k, in that the models can easily be integrated into new armies. Something like Necromunda or Gorkamorka is harder to incorporate into 40k with the way models are equipped, and GW seems to worry about these sorts of games cannibalizing their 40k sales.

Motograter wrote:

 sockwithaticket wrote:
To be honest, the lack of new Chaos models isn't surprising; the recent 40k campaign boxes have shown that they can get people to buy old stock if a couple of nice new plastic figures are thrown in. Why would they not keep doing that if people purchase?

I know that a board game and a campaign box for 40k are different to hobbyists; but to the suits/accountants at GW I think they see those as evidence of the above.

Well for one thing the campaign boxes gave both forces multipart kits this box does not so many people would expect them to at least try. The chaos side apart from the lord are the awful snapfits. Its hardly worthwhile.

I wouldn't call the Cultists *awful* snapfits - even though their variety is rather limited they are IMO far superior to many mid-age multipart models (Eldar Guardians, Cadians, Ork Boys, Necron Warriors).

That said...

 Accolade wrote:

 Davylove21 wrote:
If this is going to be a steady, non-limited board game, then does that make this a return to 'specialist games'? I hope so.

Commence dreaming of new Necromunda, a Rogue Trader themed game and GorkaMorka 2

I unfortunately doubt it. This game seems to function as a jumping-off point for 40k, in that the models can easily be integrated into new armies. Something like Necromunda or Gorkamorka is harder to incorporate into 40k with the way models are equipped, and GW seems to worry about these sorts of games cannibalizing their 40k sales.

... while I really like the Cultists, it would be pretty annoying to buy the Dark Vengeance starter and find 20 more of the models you already got with the Assassin game...

They allow for some nice conversions. But they should have added 1-2 new sculpted 'baddies' :(

 Kanluwen wrote:
"I have so much of X, so this is a complete waste and a horrible squandering of an opportunity for things I imagined they would put in!"

Well, yes. Partially. You do get that one can object to something for both personal AND practical reasons, aye? For me personally I'm only actually fussed about the Culexus model, so the decision to include existing CSM models means the box isn't worth anything to me, whereas new potential conversion fodder for INQ28 would have made it an automatic purchase. In general practical terms, I also think it's disappointing they went with existing models, simply because it's a missed opportunity to both expand the range and maximise sales of the product.

EDIT: Although, to not be entirely negative, if the box is sticking around for a good long while there's a chance the ebay prices on even the Assassin models will get pretty reasonable before it goes OOP, to the point that they'll be cheaper than the eventual clampacks.

This may be something I would buy. Assuming that the assassins on their own would be around $25 CAD, all four of them would cost about the same as the board game. Plus I really like the Chaos leader model! I just hope the assassin sculpts look good as the old ones are really showing their age these days...

Warhams-77 wrote:
Busy Bee Atia on B&C has probably found out the game's name

Spoiler:

If the rules are decent this can be a good intro game to 40k indeed. A Metal-Gear-Solid-like gameplay allows for tense games without the need of many miniatures. Also the nature of an Assassin's mission - going in AND out unseen - allows for a totally different and more interesting gameplay than 40k does. I hope it is at least as fun as Space Crusade. Which we still enjoy playing ocassionally after all these years

Indeed

and if it allows for other faction models to be played with it would be pretty fethin awesome. love to go kill some Tau Metal gear style.

Rather spend the cash at salute and wait for incoming WFB stuff... Or maybe flesh out some 40k Killteams instead.
Its a pass for me.

If it truly is a standalone game, but includes rules for slicing and shooting up other enemies of the Imperium, than I might succumb to my more baser urges and actually give GW money.

But hot damn what a swing and a miss not including some new enemies. You'd get vets and new blood in that way. Genestealer Cult would have been a welcome sight, that's for sure.

I'm really looking forward to this.