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MaxT wrote: I wonder how pissed are they that the setting they're busy creating doesn't exist and isn't supported anymore by GW ?
Opportunity for Zero-Day DLC, $10 to update your base game to the new Age of Sigmar edition.
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Yup, if they're genuinely putting that level of enthusiasm and care for the source material into the whole game and the standalone expansions/sequels that will broaden the world map with each, I'll be happy. At least the real Warhammer will live on in this, providing GW keep their dirty fingers out of it.
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
MaxT wrote: I wonder how pissed are they that the setting they're busy creating doesn't exist and isn't supported anymore by GW ?
I'd think they should be overjoyed with the scenario. Any brand recognition GW's Warhammer brand would bring would reference the pre End Times events. It would be far worse if GW made them create the game in the new Bubbleverse.
GW has gone from not properly leveraging their IP (No Blood Ravens support with promotional figures and offers for minis during DoW's heyday) To now having a completely different setting and game to the one you are licensing out.
BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
I wonder how the dwarfs will play with their Anti-Magic in the game. Do they get to drain their enemies pool of wind of magic, is there going to be abilities to lessen or out right stop magic spells from going forward? IDK but I am interested in finding out.
Also I hope to heaven sakes that GW can see that people love the old world more so then Regalia and I hope some how it is remade. If only through forge world with a Age of Legends series to iron out a lot of kinks of the original time line.
Apparently a more in-depth trailer is due this Friday. After the recent change in art direction for Fantasy, it is good to touch base with the old HRE aesthetic once again
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Starting to get really excited for this now, I hope we get an elf expansion sooner rather than later. Still of the four Warhammer armies I own two of them are in the starting line up so can't complain too much.
it's the quiet ones you have to look out for. Their the ones that change the world, the loud ones just take the credit for it.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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Alpharius wrote: I'll definitely be picking this game up at launch to show some support to the Old Game!
Yeah don't. Really, really don't.
It's a Creative Assembly game, and it's being published by Sega. This means that:
1. It won't be complete at launch.
2. It will be riddled with bugs that will take them several patches to iron out.
3. Sections of the game will be cut and turned into pre-order/Day 1 DLC.
You shouldn't buy PC games at launch to begin with, but if it's this creative duo, you definitely should not be buying at launch.
Alpharius wrote: I'll definitely be picking this game up at launch to show some support to the Old Game!
Yeah don't. Really, really don't.
It's a Creative Assembly game, and it's being published by Sega. This means that:
1. It won't be complete at launch.
2. It will be riddled with bugs that will take them several patches to iron out.
3. Sections of the game will be cut and turned into pre-order/Day 1 DLC.
You shouldn't buy PC games at launch to begin with, but if it's this creative duo, you definitely should not be buying at launch.
.
Mostly to conclude: Its not CD Project Red, who are famous for making great ports to the PC. because that is their home.
From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war.
Kirasu wrote: That one trailer alone is better than all the awful fluff in Age of Sigmar.
Looks like this will be the protector of the Old World.
So, so, so much this. The starting monologue pretty much lays out word for word why WHF as a setting worked so well, and the massed ranks of men facing down the bestial horror of the Orcs is far cooler looking than a wee troupe of Land Marines in their gleaming MK2 Awesomeium Armour crushing everything without effort(because they're Land Marines, so we know already that they'll only ever lose as a plot device in a storyline where they eventually win).
Goddamnit GW, I just don't get it. People are saying they're marketing geniuses for eradicating the old setting as a way to get people talking about the product, but I'm willing to bet that the eventual positive, money-producing outcomes of that strategy will pale in comparison to what they could have achieved by an incremental refinement of the core WHFB rules, coupled with a new skirmish-sized fast-playing additional game with the same fluff, all tied in to a joint marketing campaign with TW:W - more folk will be talking about Warhammer as a result of this game than AoS, and just think how many folk came to 40K thanks to the Dawn of War games. Now people who buy TW:W and want to jump into WHF will find a completely alien setting and no prospect of being able to buy their favourite force from the computer game in the long term since GW are phasing out large parts of the existing model range. It's mental - TW:W must surely have been in development for at least as long as it's taken them to devise and implement the End Times/AoS debacle, so did they just not think of the potential of this game to revitalise the tabletop?
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
2015/07/17 21:08:59
Subject: Total War: WARHAMMER- OFFICIAL : page 4 Karl Franz: In- Engine Cinematic
If they didn't do this reboot they probably wouldn't have given the rights for this Total War. They'd view it as competition rather than cross promotion.
BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
2015/07/17 22:44:35
Subject: Total War: WARHAMMER- OFFICIAL : page 4 Karl Franz: In- Engine Cinematic
My thoughts exactly Yodhrin. GW are so worried about their IP (even though they steal ideas from other IP's constantly) and make such bad decisions that this game which could've put GW back on top of things will instead do nothing for the company. Nice job being stupid GW and evil of course. I mean Total War is a big freaking brand. This is the game warhammer fantasy players were waiting forever for and youtube commenters sound excited if you just read the comments. Basically hourly views with excitement and possibly already about 100k views on some trailers. GW has no business sense and it's sad.
Anyway i agree on all of Yodhrin's points. I will add i didn't hate End Times too bad except the balance and ending and Age of Sigmar is something that should've been a small specialist game or additional fantasy setting for warhammer fantasy models.
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Alpharius wrote: I'll definitely be picking this game up at launch to show some support to the Old Game!
Yeah don't. Really, really don't.
It's a Creative Assembly game, and it's being published by Sega. This means that:
1. It won't be complete at launch.
2. It will be riddled with bugs that will take them several patches to iron out.
3. Sections of the game will be cut and turned into pre-order/Day 1 DLC.
You shouldn't buy PC games at launch to begin with, but if it's this creative duo, you definitely should not be buying at launch.
.
Mostly to conclude: Its not CD Project Red, who are famous for making great ports to the PC. because that is their home.
I'll third this sentiment. Day-one PC game purchases are usually a crap shoot unless the dev/publisher has a good track record.
2015/07/18 00:23:42
Subject: Total War: WARHAMMER- OFFICIAL : page 4 Karl Franz: In- Engine Cinematic
Alpharius wrote: I'll definitely be picking this game up at launch to show some support to the Old Game!
Yeah don't. Really, really don't.
It's a Creative Assembly game, and it's being published by Sega. This means that:
1. It won't be complete at launch.
2. It will be riddled with bugs that will take them several patches to iron out.
3. Sections of the game will be cut and turned into pre-order/Day 1 DLC.
You shouldn't buy PC games at launch to begin with, but if it's this creative duo, you definitely should not be buying at launch.
.
Mostly to conclude: Its not CD Project Red, who are famous for making great ports to the PC. because that is their home.
I'll third this sentiment. Day-one PC game purchases are usually a crap shoot unless the dev/publisher has a good track record.
To be fair, we're now in the age of Steam refunds. Look at the Arkham series; the last time an Arkham game was seriously broken at launch, they made a few half-hearted attempted fixes and then essentially put out a press release saying "feth you, we're off to make DLC, maybe if you buy enough of that we'll get around to fixing the game"; this time they took the game off sale and borderline grovelled to people, because if your game is a broken pile of crap customers can get their money back without any hassle.
The cynic in me thinks companies will respond by simply making sure the first two hours or so of the game run flawlessly so you run down the trial period, but you never know, we might be about to see a drastic reduction in the number of "feth it, we'll patch it later" games coming out on PC.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
2015/07/30 09:04:19
Subject: Re:Total War: WARHAMMER- OFFICIAL : page 4 Karl Franz: In- Engine Cinematic
Published on 29 Jul 2015
You won’t have seen this in a Total War game before. For the second in our new “Total War: WARHAMMER – Introducing…” series, we’re bringing you an exclusive look at one of the most fascinating, and beautiful, units in the Empire’s arsenal: The Luminark of Hysh.
The Luminark of Hysh is a magical war machine created by the Wizards of the College of Light Magic. Housing a rare, sorcerous orb, it’s capable of casting Solheim’s Bolt of Illumination, a devastating light spell. This bolt is focussed through a series of arcane lenses before leaping across the battlefield to tear the enemy asunder.
So don’t stand in front of it, basically, because it won’t end well for you.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2015/07/30 11:35:34
Subject: Total War: WARHAMMER- OFFICIAL : page 4 Luminark of Hysh
I haven't played Fantasy in years, but this looks like a beautiful game that's really faithful to the setting.It would be almost tragically funny if a WFB video game does really well and spawns multiple xpacks like DoW, all after the holder of the IP gutted the actual tabletop version.
In a strange way AoS was a great boon for fans of Warhammer who aren't invested in the wargame.
GW probably doesn't give them the license for TW if AoS isn't planned. Foolishly seeing it as competition for the tabletop not a marketing opportunity.
BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
2015/07/30 16:43:18
Subject: Total War: WARHAMMER- OFFICIAL : page 4 Luminark of Hysh
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2015/07/30 17:19:23
Subject: Total War: WARHAMMER- OFFICIAL : page 4 Luminark of Hysh
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