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So Floyd Mayweather Jr. will finally fight Manny Pacquiao on May 2nd. I know the boxing fans that remain are excited about this fight, after all these are probably two of the best boxers to emerge in recent history.
Has this fight captured the imagination of anyone who doesn't normally follow boxing? I think I'm going to at least head out to a bar to watch the fight, with the expectation that Mayweather will win on points, but the hope that Pacquiao will come out on top.
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Honestly, I think that, for me at least the continual "stalling" or whatever has gone on to keep this fight from happening has killed a lot of the buzz for me.
I never really did like Mayweather, but as a whole, I've not really enjoyed the lighter class fights. Perhaps it's just that growing up, I had Roy Jones Jr. in his prime, plus easy and readily available tapes/recordings of the greatest heavyweights, so I've kinda not really "liked" anyone smaller than Middleweight
Yeah, growing up I had Mike Tyson, Ecander Holyfield, and Roy Jones, and earlier than that Sugar Ray Leanord. Boxing certainly isnt loaded with great, exciting fighters at the heavier weights anymore, at least not to my knowledge.
Mayweather's fighting style is super defensive and he is a master counter puncher. He doesn't make for great TV IMO.
Pacquiao, on the other hand, is a flurry of activity and power punching. I love watching Pacquiao fights.
I'd love to see Khan fight Mayweather. Sure, Khan has a glass chin at times, but he does have the hand speed to cause real problems for somebody like Mayweather.
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I'd love to see Khan fight Mayweather. Sure, Khan has a glass chin at times, but he does have the hand speed to cause real problems for somebody like Mayweather.
Mayweather's toughest fights have been against Miguel Cotto and Jose Luis Castillo so far, both of which have orthodox stances, and both of whom are rough, rough fighters. I know he fought Zab Judah and won concinvingly, and Judah at the time was considered a top-tier southpaw.
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Doesn't Mayweather also have a reputation for only picking fights he is almost certain to win as well, and only every once in awhile at that? I don't really keep up enough to say but I have heard that a few times. That and the whole woman beater thing he has going for him.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Pacquiao....isn't he like a Mayor in the Philippines? If so I think he pays the most in taxes then any other politicians in the Philippines
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Ahtman wrote: Doesn't Mayweather also have a reputation for only picking fights he is almost certain to win as well, and only every once in awhile at that? I don't really keep up enough to say but I have heard that a few times. That and the whole woman beater thing he has going for him.
That was the case earlier in his career. Like most promising fighters he was protected. But he has a laundry list of wins against top fighters on his CV at this stage: Juan Manuel Marquez, Castillo, De La Hoya, Shane Mosley, and especially Cotto.
Jihadin wrote: Pacquiao....isn't he like a Mayor in the Philippines? If so I think he pays the most in taxes then any other politicians in the Philippines
I thought he was a Senator.... Regardless, he probably does pay the most taxes. I'd be wary if he were elected president or prime minister (or whatever they have)... he may end up being voted "dictator for life" like a certain other someone most of us should know about.
BlaxicanX wrote: Everyone hates Floyd Mayweather, so I'm kind of hoping he wins decisively.
Which is weird because going in he was heavily favorited. I think that Pacqiao is liked mostly in proportion in how much people dislike Mayweather.
I still have trouble understanding how they are getting such a huge purse as well as ticket costs since Boxing has been on the decline for some time, popularity wise plus the competition from MMA and others. It boggles my mind.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Incidentally, here is the best reason why I think Pacquaio has a chance of beating Mayweather...their most recent common opponent, Miguel Cotto.
Mayewather was abl to beat Cotto, no question, on the scorecards:
But Pacquaio absolutely destroyed Cotto, and forced his corner to throw in the towel:
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I am excited to see this like every other Pacquiao fight I have watched. I'll have to admit though there is some frustration. Maybe 4 or 5 years ago I would have been 100% sure of Pacquiao's victories. Now a days I'm wondering if maybe some of the victories aren't caused by some sort of hype or 'well he wins any way' kind of decision making; it kind of makes the wins feel cheap to me.
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Thank goodness none of my friends or family (here or in the Philippines) read dakka dakka... haha
Honestly, I hope for a good fight by both parties. I hope both give really good effort and make the expensive PPV worth it.
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djphranq wrote: I am excited to see this like every other Pacquiao fight I have watched. I'll have to admit though there is some frustration. Maybe 4 or 5 years ago I would have been 100% sure of Pacquiao's victories. Now a days I'm wondering if maybe some of the victories aren't caused by some sort of hype or 'well he wins any way' kind of decision making; it kind of makes the wins feel cheap to me.
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Thank goodness none of my friends or family (here or in the Philippines) read dakka dakka... haha
Honestly, I hope for a good fight by both parties. I hope both give really good effort and make the expensive PPV worth it.
Yeah, I think those are deporting words if you happen to live in the Philippines!
My coworkers intend to watch this this weekend. I'm gonna go have some of the best Italian food in Vermont instead (family restaurant, uncle is from Italy and spends half his life over there).
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jasper76 wrote: People are still willing to fork out big money to see the best of the best in boxing.
Boxing is kind of weird. In terms of the number of people who do it and the number of fans it has it's a really minor sport, but it's still one of the biggest sports in the world because the people who do like it spent loads of cash on it.
They reckon they'll get about 3 million viewers for this fight, world wide. For the biggest fight in years that's not actually much cop, really. But those 3 million viewers are expected to bring in more than 300 million directly, and once you add in secondary incomes its going to be more like half a billion, and that's incredible.
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cincydooley wrote: So I didn't realize what a bad guy Mayweather was until all the coverage for this fight started. He's really kinda a POS.
Putting it lightly.
Dude has an official record of 47-0 in the ring, but unofficially he's pushing almost 60-0 if you include when he practices The Sweet Science on women outside the ring.
I hope he gets his ass kicked, but I think he'll outlast and outpoint Manny, unfortunately.
Also, I weep for boxing in the years to come. When Floyd and Paquiao retire in the next few years, boxing will lose its two biggest draws. It will be years before another boxer comes and captures people attention like they both did.
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Eh, I've never really followed boxing much, but this match should have happened a couple years ago at best. Also, Mayweather always seemed like an donkey-cave, so I hope Pacquiao fething annihilates him.
jasper76 wrote: People are still willing to fork out big money to see the best of the best in boxing.
Boxing is kind of weird. In terms of the number of people who do it and the number of fans it has it's a really minor sport, but it's still one of the biggest sports in the world because the people who do like it spent loads of cash on it.
They reckon they'll get about 3 million viewers for this fight, world wide. For the biggest fight in years that's not actually much cop, really. But those 3 million viewers are expected to bring in more than 300 million directly, and once you add in secondary incomes its going to be more like half a billion, and that's incredible.
That is fething crazy. 3 million is a tiny amount of viewers when you consider that over a million people on average watch Man Utd games and they play every week!
Big fights are EVENTS in every sense of the word, and that's why people pay to watch. I'm probably watching this one at a bar this weekend.
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KiloFiX wrote: Yeah, the problem with boxing unlike some other sports is you may end up paying $$$ for an event that lasts 5 minutes instead of a set hour, etc.
I paid $20(?) to watch Tyson vs. Spinks on closed-circuit TV (hey, it was a long time ago). The fight went 91 seconds. So it goes.
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