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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 13:11:18
Subject: does Jain Zar infer 12 inch run to banshees?
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Dakka Veteran
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What it says really, RAW Jain Zar has +3 inches to run of the unit she joins because she has "falcons swiftness" warlord trait. Then if she joined banshees they have "Acrobatic" which confers run or charge of +3 inches. Now. If I take her and the banshees as part of a windrider host (Jain Zar as a "Living Legend", the Banshees as "Aspect Host") I get "Matchless agility" which is run 6 inches.
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RAW banshees plus jain zar run 12 inches as well as move 6 inches plus a charge of 2D6 plus 3.. correct?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/05/02 13:11:59
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 13:17:36
Subject: Re:does Jain Zar infer 12 inch run to banshees?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Does Jain Zar have the 'Acrobatic' rule? If not, the unit cannot benefit from it when she joins them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 13:18:30
Subject: does Jain Zar infer 12 inch run to banshees?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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yep you can then cast quicken so they can run 15''
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 13:18:37
Subject: does Jain Zar infer 12 inch run to banshees?
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Emboldened Warlock
Widnes UK
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Jain zar's +3 is cumulative with the +3 from acrobatic as she also has acrobatic, so you will be running d6+6 normally. If you are using the craftworld warhost it will be a 12" run. You still cant charge on the turn that you run though. Also jain zar would obviously have to be your warlord.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/05/02 13:20:32
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 13:20:29
Subject: Re:does Jain Zar infer 12 inch run to banshees?
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This is all correct. Obviously, they still can't charge on a turn in which they run.
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There is NO SUCH THING as MORE ADVANCED in 40k!!! There are ONLY 2 LEVELS of RULES: Basic and Advanced. THE END. Stop saying "More Advanced". That is not a recognized thing in modern 40k!!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 13:22:58
Subject: does Jain Zar infer 12 inch run to banshees?
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Dakka Veteran
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Ahh so nor only that, on her own jain zar runs D6+6 (and charges 2D6+3) interesting subtlety.. so long as she is the warlord.. i.e. so long as she has the warlord trait
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/05/02 13:24:56
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 13:24:15
Subject: does Jain Zar infer 12 inch run to banshees?
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Emboldened Warlock
Widnes UK
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Banshees cannot benefit from quicken as to do so they would need to have a spiritseer in the squad. He doesn't have the acrobatic rule, so you are getting rid of a permanent +3 to run for a +3 if you cast a spell.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 13:29:19
Subject: does Jain Zar infer 12 inch run to banshees?
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Dakka Veteran
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Pretty awesome ability there.. I wonder if there are any tactics that can exploit it i.e. maybe deep strike via falcons run into a building ...charge out next go
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/05/02 13:30:29
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 17:51:17
Subject: Re:does Jain Zar infer 12 inch run to banshees?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Stick them in a Dark Eldar raider? Makes a first turn charge a distinct possibility.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/05/02 17:51:52
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 17:58:21
Subject: does Jain Zar infer 12 inch run to banshees?
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
Inside Yvraine
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Yep. I did the math a couple of weeks ago, and Banshees in a Raider can reliably charge an enemy unit that's 23'' away. Raider move 6'', disembark 6'', average charge range with fleet is 8''+3'' from acrobatic.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/05/02 17:59:53
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 18:03:05
Subject: Re:does Jain Zar infer 12 inch run to banshees?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Depending on how your group does pivot-and-move, potentially even more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/02 19:28:16
Subject: does Jain Zar infer 12 inch run to banshees?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Can't count on it, but you could have a SpiritSeer die to perils after casting Quicken...
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