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2015/05/06 16:17:13
Subject: Generating psychic powers w/ psychic focus
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Been Around the Block
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I can't seem to find a clear answer on this question.
I have a Hive Tyrant (ML2), he can only generate Tyranid powers so he has the primaris automatically. I roll for my first power and I get 'The Horror' - don't like it, I want to re-roll to try for a different one. Is this ok to do? A guy in my store said this was ok, but I didn't really see it in the rules how this works. Am I exchanging 'The Horror' for the primaris which then triggers the "re-roll if you already know this power" clause?
Essentially I would like to re-roll the crap powers that I get on my Tyrant and get something good like Catalyst or Onslaught (always getting The Horror and Psychic Scream.... ALWAYS). How would this affect generating my second power?
Thanks!
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2015/05/06 16:26:05
Subject: Generating psychic powers w/ psychic focus
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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Rerolling isn't accurate. Substituting for a primaris doesn't let you reroll that power, it gives you the option to take the primaris over a power that may not be as good in the given situation. It still takes up one of the powers you generate
You can still do it but there is literally no benefit. You were going to get the primaris regardless so all it does is give you one less power overall.
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2015/05/06 16:28:36
Subject: Generating psychic powers w/ psychic focus
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In short, no you can't re-roll powers.
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2015/05/06 16:32:57
Subject: Generating psychic powers w/ psychic focus
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Confessor Of Sins
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Unless, of course, you roll the same power twice, which could have been what happened here at ML 2.
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It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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2015/05/06 16:36:45
Subject: Generating psychic powers w/ psychic focus
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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 BlackTalos wrote:
Unless, of course, you roll the same power twice, which could have been what happened here at ML 2.
Except OP said he doesn't want the power, and wants to switch it for the Primaris (which due to Psychic Focus, he "already" has (explantion for the quotes below)).
OP, you do not get the Primaris until after you've generated all your powers.
So in your example, you roll The Horror. Swap it for the Primaris.
You roll for your second power.
Since you've now generated all your powers on Powers of the Hive Mind, you get the Primaris for free. As it is you are left with Primaris, Primaris, and Generated. As such all it does is cause you to lose a power.
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2015/05/06 17:08:33
Subject: Generating psychic powers w/ psychic focus
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Been Around the Block
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Ah, so what I roll is what I get?
Roll one - The Horror (lamesauce, no way to re-roll?)
Roll two - Catalyst (hurray!)
I have literally never gotten Onslaught, Catalyst, or Paroxysm - perhaps I should check my dice?
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2015/05/06 17:15:50
Subject: Generating psychic powers w/ psychic focus
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Confessor Of Sins
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Feldon wrote:Ah, so what I roll is what I get? Roll one - The Horror (lamesauce, no way to re-roll?) Roll two - Catalyst (hurray!) I have literally never gotten Onslaught, Catalyst, or Paroxysm - perhaps I should check my dice?
Yes. Unless, as i said, you roll twice the same: Roll one - The Horror (can't re-roll) Roll two - The Horror (hurray! I get to pick ANY other power) And then, you get primaris, if you didn't swap it out for any of the rolls
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Roronoa Zoro wrote:When the world shoves you around, you just gotta stand up and shove back. It's not like somebody's gonna save you if you start babbling excuses. - Bring on the hardship. It's preferred in a path of carnage.
Manchu wrote:
It's like you take a Space Marine and say "what could make him cooler?" Instead of adding more super-genetic-psycho-organic modification, you take it all away. You have a regular human left in power armor and all the armies of hell at the gates. And she doesn't even flinch. Pure. Badass. |
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2015/05/06 17:25:40
Subject: Generating psychic powers w/ psychic focus
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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BlackTalos wrote:Feldon wrote:Ah, so what I roll is what I get?
Roll one - The Horror (lamesauce, no way to re-roll?)
Roll two - Catalyst (hurray!)
I have literally never gotten Onslaught, Catalyst, or Paroxysm - perhaps I should check my dice?
Yes. Unless, as i said, you roll twice the same:
Roll one - The Horror (can't re-roll)
Roll two - The Horror (hurray! I get to pick ANY other power)
And then, you get primaris, if you didn't swap it out for any of the rolls
Can the nids pick a power if they roll a power they have already?
Because the brb says to re-roll.
Does the nid book say otherwise?
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2015/05/06 17:25:51
Subject: Generating psychic powers w/ psychic focus
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Been Around the Block
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BlackTalos wrote:Feldon wrote:Ah, so what I roll is what I get?
Roll one - The Horror (lamesauce, no way to re-roll?)
Roll two - Catalyst (hurray!)
I have literally never gotten Onslaught, Catalyst, or Paroxysm - perhaps I should check my dice?
Yes. Unless, as i said, you roll twice the same:
Roll one - The Horror (can't re-roll)
Roll two - The Horror (hurray! I get to pick ANY other power)
And then, you get primaris, if you didn't swap it out for any of the rolls
I get to PICK any other power? Or I roll till I get something that isn't the Horror?
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2015/05/06 17:26:57
Subject: Generating psychic powers w/ psychic focus
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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Feldon wrote: BlackTalos wrote:Feldon wrote:Ah, so what I roll is what I get?
Roll one - The Horror (lamesauce, no way to re-roll?)
Roll two - Catalyst (hurray!)
I have literally never gotten Onslaught, Catalyst, or Paroxysm - perhaps I should check my dice?
Yes. Unless, as i said, you roll twice the same:
Roll one - The Horror (can't re-roll)
Roll two - The Horror (hurray! I get to pick ANY other power)
And then, you get primaris, if you didn't swap it out for any of the rolls
I get to PICK any other power? Or I roll till I get something that isn't the Horror?
You reroll until you don't have a duplicate. BlackTalos is getting confused with WHFB
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2015/05/06 17:28:03
Subject: Generating psychic powers w/ psychic focus
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Executing Exarch
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BlackTalos wrote:Yes. Unless, as i said, you roll twice the same:
Roll one - The Horror (can't re-roll)
Roll two - The Horror (hurray! I get to pick ANY other power)
And then, you get primaris, if you didn't swap it out for any of the rolls
You're confusing the rules for Warhammer Fantasy - in 40k you just roll again if you get a duplicate - page 23, Generating Psychic Powers, 4th paragraph, after the bit in bold.
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2015/05/07 09:18:20
Subject: Generating psychic powers w/ psychic focus
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Confessor Of Sins
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 Quanar wrote: BlackTalos wrote:Yes. Unless, as i said, you roll twice the same: Roll one - The Horror (can't re-roll) Roll two - The Horror (hurray! I get to pick ANY other power) And then, you get primaris, if you didn't swap it out for any of the rolls
You're confusing the rules for Warhammer Fantasy - in 40k you just roll again if you get a duplicate - page 23, Generating Psychic Powers, 4th paragraph, after the bit in bold.
Ah, yes, sorry. You get to re-roll the result, not pick anything like you do in Fantasy.  My best excuse: I play sisters of battle so i hunt ALL of these Psyker witches !! (And never pick powers for anyone)
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