| Author |
Message |
 |
|
|
 |
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/18 23:24:35
Subject: Dark Eldar/Eldar language
|
 |
Hellish Haemonculus
|
I know their symbols look a little spikier, but I wasn't sure if their written language (or their spoken language) was the same as the Craftworld Eldar? Has anyone seen any backup for this in the fluff anywhere?
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/05/19 02:24:10
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/19 02:19:41
Subject: Dark Eldar/Eldar langua
|
 |
Master Shaper
Gargant Hunting
|
I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere about their written language, but a Salamanders marine mentioned their language embodied their cruelty in a way, with harsh sounds that reminded him of sword swings or whip cracks (or something similar iirc) in the Salamanders Omnibus. Sorry I don't know much about their written language, but I figured this might be helpful in some way, and it still is in the regards to the DE language.
|
Irishpeacockz-Blackjack needs a pay raise for being the welcomer to the crusade
Palleus-Write a school essay about Kroot! Pride. Prejudice. And Cannibalsim. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/19 02:46:37
Subject: Dark Eldar/Eldar language
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
I guess their languages changed after/during their downfall, but they can probably understand the pre-fall eldar language
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/19 04:53:21
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar/Eldar language
|
 |
Hellish Haemonculus
|
Someone else brought up that there's no concrete evidence that all craftworlds even share a language, but went on to theorize that all Eldar probably speak dialects of the same language.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/19 10:14:57
Subject: Dark Eldar/Eldar language
|
 |
Hallowed Canoness
|
It's probably the difference between Scots Gaelic and Irish Gaelic, although it could be the difference between Cantonese and Mandarin.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/05/19 10:15:15

"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/19 13:32:31
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar/Eldar language
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
In the novel Valedor and Path of the Outcast pre-Fall Eldar language is rendered as archaic English with thees and thous, but it appears it is still understandable to modern Eldar.
Similarly in both books, there seem to be no problems in communication between the various Eldar branches so it seems their language is still mutually intelligible.
The old 3rd edition Eldar Codex had a drawing of a stele showing various runes denoting the different branches of Eldar, and it talked of various tenses of the runes on that. Basically the Exodites seem to use older more naturalistic runes, the Craftworld Eldar more rigid formalized ones, and the Dark Eldar more spiky ones focusing on bloody and dark topics. The Harlequins used runes that seemed to be future focused, suggesting they have a plan (as confirmed later by the Harlequin Codex).
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/19 14:22:34
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar/Eldar language
|
 |
Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
|
Jimsolo wrote:Someone else brought up that there's no concrete evidence that all craftworlds even share a language, but went on to theorize that all Eldar probably speak dialects of the same language.
It's likely they have a wide variety of languages that they can speak. Automatically Appended Next Post: Jehan-reznor wrote:I guess their languages changed after/during their downfall, but they can probably understand the pre-fall eldar language
considering that a number of the DE were alive to witness the fall. I bet they can understand the prefall language.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/05/19 14:23:13
Dark Mechanicus and Renegade Iron Hand Dakka Blog
My Dark Mechanicus P&M Blog. Mostly Modeling as I paint very slowly. Lots of kitbashed conversions of marines and a few guard to make up a renegade Iron Hand chapter and Dark Mechanicus Allies. Bionics++ |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/19 18:36:35
Subject: Dark Eldar/Eldar language
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
They had a whole Eldar *empire*.
There is a good chance that there was more than one language.
That said, in a race where everyone is at least somewhat of a psyker, and a focus on the telepathy style, linguistics isn't as critical.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/19 21:48:46
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar/Eldar language
|
 |
Hellish Haemonculus
|
Lol, I'm putting together a Dark Heresy character and I want him to be able to speak the language of Commorragh. Is Eldar the correct choice, you think?
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/19 23:28:02
Subject: Dark Eldar/Eldar language
|
 |
Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
|
Probably "Speak Xeno Language: Eldar (Commorragh Dialect)" would be the appropriate choice.
|
It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/20 09:08:21
Subject: Dark Eldar/Eldar language
|
 |
Hallowed Canoness
|
Thinking about it, its probably a bit like France.
In France, everyone speaks French. Even the people who really speak Occitan but have been told they speak French and must speak Parisien French.
|

"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/21 06:42:25
Subject: Dark Eldar/Eldar language
|
 |
Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
|
I imagine it to be the difference between Canadian French, and .. France French? like Furyou mentioned.
It's probably different accents, a few different pronunciations, and slang.
|
10k+ Tau, Ke'lshan
10k Dark Eldar Kabal of the Flayed skull
1k Scions
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/21 07:10:32
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar/Eldar language
|
 |
Fixture of Dakka
|
I am not sure if they are still that similar, they are not exactly on speaking terms (pun intended)
I am thinking more like the difference between Dutch and (south) Afrikaans, they both originated from the dutch languages a few hundred years ago but it has changed a lot, i can understand about 50 to 60% of Afrikaans but there are a lot of words with different meanings. I think the Dark eldar tongue has also changed over the millennia while the craftworld eldar are more strict and hold on to tradition.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/21 09:23:34
Subject: Dark Eldar/Eldar language
|
 |
Hallowed Canoness
|
The difference there is that there are still Eldar alive from before the fall, while all the people who spoke Dutch 2/300 years ago area dead.
|

"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/05/21 19:33:23
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar/Eldar language
|
 |
Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
|
Jehan-reznor wrote:I am not sure if they are still that similar, they are not exactly on speaking terms (pun intended)
I am thinking more like the difference between Dutch and (south) Afrikaans, they both originated from the dutch languages a few hundred years ago but it has changed a lot, i can understand about 50 to 60% of Afrikaans but there are a lot of words with different meanings. I think the Dark eldar tongue has also changed over the millennia while the craftworld eldar are more strict and hold on to tradition.
Actually, they are. Eldar pass between the Craftworlds, the Corsair Fleets and the Kabals all the time. The differences between Eldar and Dark Eldar are cultural, nothing more. As well, unless the CWE are speaking Olde Eldare (the equivalent of an American speaking Old English), then the Dark Eldar *are* the traditions of the Eldar culture, at least as evidenced in the last 15,000+ years.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/05/21 19:34:51
It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
|
|
 |
 |
|
|