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My question is simple. Would any eldar ever align with Nurgle?

The main motive being protection from Slaneesh.

Other motives: closeness to Isha, dark eldar are already well versed in poison, possible access to spirit stones to trade/give to their cwe buddies?

If they did, would they be likely to fight alongside human cultists/marines of nurgle?

Are there any examples of eldar defects to nurgle in fluff?

Thanks in advance for your guidance!
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Under exceptional circumstances, maybe?
But normally, Eldar hate to align with regular humans, so I feel that this alliance would not occur, especially with Chaos.
The Isha point is good, so that could work, but I'd still think that the Eldar might help them indirectly, assisting them from afar, but never getting too close.


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Theoretically, any sentiant can be corrupted by/aligned with any of the chaos gods.

Slaanesh has a pre-existing claim on the eldar, but I would imagine Nurgle might well accept an eldar supplicant - as much to annoy Slaanesh as anything.

Equally, via assorted plagues, Nurgle has more options for forcibly corrupting someone than most of the other gods.

The Paths of the Dark Eldar trilogy has an example of a Dark Eldar becoming corrupted by Nurgle without realising it. I won't tell you which one, as it's a good read.

A willing servant of nurgle would probably maintain the trademark arrogance of the eldar, but at the same time would probably make use of mon-keigh cultists and soldiers as cannon-fodder and slaves.

They wouldn't be looking for spiri stones - Nurgle is a god of natural decay, death and rebirth; the artificial stasis represented by the craftworlder's false immortality is absolute anathema to any genuine servant of the chaos gods as it's existance devoid of sensation and emotion.

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Nurgle kidnapped their mom. Every Eldar knows this (whether or not its true [a] wouldn't matter, and [b] is a much more nebulous concept when it comes to Warp entities and the firm belief of an entire Psyker race).

Dark Eldar possibly. But very unlikely.

Craftworlders, we're talking Guilliman getting up and palling around with Abbadon levels of nope.
   
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If im not mistaken, only one of the craft worlds believes Isha was stolen by Nurgle. The others think she is dead.

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Isn't Tzeencth the only Chaos god that can work with the forces of order? I think thats written somewhere.

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The only Eldar-Nurglich alliance i can think off occurred in the 3 book of the Dark Eldar path trilogy. Although if it was Dark Eldar they allied with is dubious, because it was in fact the Mandrake King who allied with Nurgle in an attempt to gain an advantage over his brother, a Rival Mandrake King, who had allied with Tzeentch.

Mandrakes are...shall we say not a fair representation of all Eldar. However this would be your best chance at the alliance, where you could fluff it as the Mandrakes are working with Nurgle and an Archon is using Mandrakes to accomplish his mission. That way the Dark Eldar Archon doesn't have to actively engage with the Chaotic Powers but has the benefit of them, which seems something very fluffy for a Dark Eldar to do.

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Another motive might be that nurgles enemy is tzeentch, whose notable follower ahriman is after the black library. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
   
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Probably about as likely as an alliance with the Necrons. In fact, that may be even more likely.
There is nothing the Eldar hate more than Chaos, and altough Slaanesh is their enemy no. 1, the other Chaos powers almost as hated, especially Nurgle, for his corrupting influence and because he holds Isha hostage.

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 Iron_Captain wrote:
Probably about as likely as an alliance with the Necrons. In fact, that may be even more likely.
There is nothing the Eldar hate more than Chaos, and altough Slaanesh is their enemy no. 1, the other Chaos powers almost as hated, especially Nurgle, for his corrupting influence and because he holds Isha hostage.

I'm pretty sure the Necrons and Eldar are entirely incapable of an alliance. The Eldar are likely genetically conditioned to hate their oldest enemy by the Old Ones after all. And every Necron remembers when the upstarts dared to defend those that denied the Necrontyr their rightful place.

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Some of the Aspects might align with Khorne, the enemy of Slaanesh. Particularly Howling Banshees or Striking Scorpiosn who embody his aggression, as well as being similar to Khaine in being War and Blood gods. Exarchs who are lost to the Warpaths are probably more likely as well.

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Bharring wrote:
Who do you hate more? The donkey-cave who stole your milk in kindergarten, or the twisted psycho who kidnapped your mom and experiments on her?

The donkey-cave you were born and bred to fight and considers you nothing more than a stain on existence to be wiped away out of sheer spite for you and your entire people you mean.

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Bharring wrote:
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I really fething like milk.

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I feel like the Dark Eldar already worship Tzeentch just as much as they worship Slaanesh. It wouldn't take much more than an openness to the concept to actually change them for it.
   
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 Quarterdime wrote:
Dark Eldar worship Slaanesh.


Oh Mork. All eldar hate Slaanesh. Slaanesh just bites little pieces from souls of Darks, thus they need to feed their souls on slaaneshy things just not to die.
I heard they also call Slaanesh 'the hungry bitch'
   
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Eldar can no longer summon daemons as of their latest codex. So it would seem they aren't particularly compatible with Chaos.

(pretty sure Slaanesh already laid claim to their souls anyways, although that probably wouldn't stop another Chaos God if he really wanted)
   
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Eldar can turn to the Chaos powers like anyone else - problem is that Slaanesh already owns their souls so they have less to bargin with.

Nurgle is a friendly sort but getting him to save you from Slaanesh you still end up sellign our soul and becoming a rotting shambling monster - albeit feeling no pain so not a great deal......

Dark Eldar try to exploit Chaos - and there are various examples in the Codexes = it usally ends badly for them. Well actually it always ends badly......

The Isha story was mentioned again in white Dwarf fairly recently but as a general thing rather than a odd belief on one Craftworld. That beinf said Nurgle's rescue is not exactly the act of a knight in shinning armour - the whole keeping her in a cage and feeding her diseases is not the most healthy releationship no matter where you are on the BDSM scale...........

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